Rumour: Radeon R9 480/480X 3DMark 11 Scores

[Armsdealer]

Things that will affect your numbers.

AMD has the WSA agreement where they pay a substantial fee irrespective of if they produce anything or not.

AFAIK, both Gloflo and Samsung are not awash in customers, so I would expect both lower prices and much greater available capacity.

In my opinion, AMD has the ability to accept much lower margins than competitors, partly due to the lower overhead costs through the downsizing they experienced and also, the much lower share price. ANY profit will dramatically improve the share price.

Anybody expecting AMD to return to full health in one step is fantasizing.
First goal. Return to a sustainable profitable position and then you can talk improving margins.

Exactly this. AMD's share price has been down over 95% over the last decade and at least a month ago was pricing in a significant chance of outright bankruptcy.

AMD isn't trying to make money right now. They don't have that luxury. They are trying to not lose money, which is an improvement from where they were. Selling a ton of cards at COST (including development cost) is an improvement for them and that likelihood alone is enough for the stock to go bonkers.

Over the long haul, I think nvidia will accept that AMD isn't leaving the gpu space and will have to coexist with duopoly pricing.

 

[nenforcer]

Oops, misread chart. Sorry. Anyway, 1070 benchmarks are out and it looks like its about ~25% faster than Polaris XT according to these charts. If these benchmarks are true, AMD better position it below $279.

I think you mean below $380 - and I suspect it will be quite a bit below this. AMD is clearing out their mainstream and performance bottom end starting with the Polaris 11 Radeon R9 470 which is replacing the 4 1/2 year old Pitcairn based 7850 / R9 370 and then the Radeon R9 480/X which is effectively replacing both the 2 year old Tonga R9 285 2GB and the 1 year old R9 380 Antigua 2/4GB.

None of those cards was ever over $250 and it appears the fully enabled Polaris 10 which slightly outperforms even the R9 390 should come in at around $300 or less.

 

[TemjinGold]

So now I'm curious: There was talk earlier in the thread about mobile being first with chips and whatnot. While this level of performance may not seem so interesting for desktop, if we can get ~Fury performance on a laptop, it may just be time for me to finally ditch having a desktop and go mobile!

 

[ShintaiDK]

So now I'm curious: There was talk earlier in the thread about mobile being first with chips and whatnot. While this level of performance may not seem so interesting for desktop, if we can get ~Fury performance on a laptop, it may just be time for me to finally ditch having a desktop and go mobile!

By mobile, do you mean DTR? Because we are not talking about Fury performance at a mobile low TDP.