Rumor: HTC One X and One S will not get KLP

[jacktesterson]

According to http://www.androidauthority.com/last-htc-one-x-update-195802/

The One X and One S will get 4.2.2 with Sense 5, but no further updates

This is kinda surprising to me - I honestly expected all S4/225 phones of last generation to get Key Lime Pie.

Samsung hasn't stated anything regarding the S III either, and Sony hasn't said anything regarding the Xperia T. (Samsung has said the Note II will get Key Lime Pie)

 

[Bateluer]

According to http://www.androidauthority.com/last-htc-one-x-update-195802/

The One X and One S will get 4.2.2 with Sense 5, but no further updates

This is kinda surprising to me - I honestly expected all S4/225 phones of last generation to get Key Lime Pie.

Samsung hasn't stated anything regarding the S III either, and Sony hasn't said anything regarding the Xperia T. (Samsung has said the Note II will get Key Lime Pie)

Interesting. The hardware is certainly going to be capable of KLP, but I think HTC may be running lean on developer staff. :/

Samsung, on the other hand, has no shortage of developers. If the SGS2 can go from 2.3.x all the way to 4.2.x, I'd easily expect the SGS3 to go for a while. Its 2GBs of RAM will certainly aid it there.

 

[jacktesterson]

Interesting. The hardware is certainly going to be capable of KLP, but I think HTC may be running lean on developer staff. :/

Samsung, on the other hand, has no shortage of developers. If the SGS2 can go from 2.3.x all the way to 4.2.x, I'd easily expect the SGS3 to go for a while. Its 2GBs of RAM will certainly aid it there.

The SII was up to 4.1.1 if I'm not mistaken. (Not talking AOSP roms)

I agree - All can run it from what I've heard. It's not like they are slouches - they keep up with the Quad's in tons of Apps to this day.

Probably the S3/220 can run it too - since its the same chipsets just a higher die size and lower clock speeds.

HTC has done this before but I felt they were improving lately. My wife uses her phone daily yet doesn't want to upgrade as she's familiar with it. Anyways, its a HTC Raider LTE (Same as Vivid in States). It received ICS when other phones were getting JB and to this day its still on ICS with Sense 3.6 - Yet is a LTE phone with a 1.5GHz Dual Core CPU and 1GB of ram. (It is running a Sense 4 based ICS Rom though that is smoother than stock) I believe she got it very early 2012 - disappointing a phone of that age is still without Jelly Bean and will never get it.

I'd be surprised if Samsung didn't give the S III 5.0 - phone arena says a source says it will get it.

I hope Sony steps up and gives Xperia T users 5.0. They did give Xperia S users 4.1.2 (Started at 2.3) although they were a tad slow doing so.

 

[s44]

You realize the T-Mo One S *still hasn't gotten JB*.

If you want official updates, don't buy HTC.

 

[jacktesterson]

You realize the T-Mo One S *still hasn't gotten JB*.

If you want official updates, don't buy HTC.

Same with Virgin Mobile in Canada (Last I heard) - even though other Carriers have had 4.1.1 out for quite a while. I had a One S and loved it - It was my favorite phone of 2012 - once you got used to the the Pentile qHD screen. I flip phones every few months but I'm trying to stop this habit. Anyways I gave my One S to my father - his first Android phone - and he still tells me all the time how much he loves the phone vs his old blackberry's. It's a Fido phone and has had 4.1.1 for months.


Brings up another issue - Carriers interfering with updates - why not just push the update out without the bloat if you don't want to take the time to update it?

 

[Bateluer]

Brings up another issue - Carriers interfering with updates - why not just push the update out without the bloat if you don't want to take the time to update it?

ACLU has filed a complaint with the FTC over just that.
http://www.dailytech.com/ACLU+Compl...dates+are+Endangering+People/article30400.htm

ccording to the ACLU, Google Inc. (GOOG) regularly puts out patches and upgrades to its Android operating system -- the world's most used smartphone operating system. But in its 17-page report, it accuses America's top wireless carriers of recklessly endangering consumers by not rolling out updates fast enough.

The report calls out both of America's top two carriers, AT&T, Inc. (T) and Verizon Wireless -- jointly owned by Verizon Communications Inc. (VZ) and Vodafone Group Plc. (LON:VOD). But it also accuses Sprint Nextel Corp. (S) and Deutsche Telekom AG's (ETRTE) T-Mobile USA of contributing to the problem, as well.

The carriers have repeated their standard line about 'testing' though.

While the report may echo the frustrations of many Android users, it was met with scorn and derision by figures in the telecom industry. Verizon responded that it releases patches and updates "as quickly as possible", but that it must commit "rigorous testing" before any release. Carriers argue that the nature of Android -- which allows both OEMs and carriers to modify or disable certain functionality (e.g. tethering) -- makes testing a slower and more arduous process.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

You realize the T-Mo One S *still hasn't gotten JB*.

If you want official updates, don't buy HTC.

I'd say that's a carrier issue more than an HTC issue..

The SII was up to 4.1.1 if I'm not mistaken. (Not talking AOSP roms)

Are the US SIIs even up to 4.1 yet? The AT&T i777 just got 4.0.4 in Dec 2012 or something. correct me if i'm wrong

 

[dagamer34]

You realize the T-Mo One S *still hasn't gotten JB*.

If you want official updates, don't buy HTC.

If you want updates, get a Nexus. Don't fool yourself thinking anything else will be as good if that's what you really care about. :whiste:

 

[lothar]

If you want updates, get a Nexus. Don't fool yourself thinking anything else will be as good if that's what you really care about. :whiste:

But if you don't want the shortcomings of having a Nexus device(meh battery life, no SD slot, etc...), then you have to get the next best thing.
That means Samsung and not HTC.
Samsung still provides the quickest updates of any manufacturer if you're looking at non-Nexus devices.
My Galaxy S II from May 2011 has JellyBean 4.1 and it will likely get JellyBean 4.2.2

 

[lothar]

I'd say that's a carrier issue more than an HTC issue..


Are the US SIIs even up to 4.1 yet? The AT&T i777 just got 4.0.4 in Dec 2012 or something. correct me if i'm wrong

Both Sprint and T-Mobile Galaxy S II versions have JellyBean.
http://www.androidcentral.com/jelly-bean-update-now-available-sprint-epic-4g-touch
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-s-samsung-galaxy-s2-getting-jelly-bean-update

I can't speak of the AT&T version, however.
All I see is the Galaxy S II SkyRocket nonsense. I don't see any indication that the regular AT&T Galaxy S II got JellyBean.
Looks to me like AT&T has thrown their regular Galaxy S II users with bath water.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Both Sprint and T-Mobile Galaxy S II versions have JellyBean.
http://www.androidcentral.com/jelly-bean-update-now-available-sprint-epic-4g-touch
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-s-samsung-galaxy-s2-getting-jelly-bean-update

I can't speak of the AT&T version, however.
All I see is the Galaxy S II SkyRocket nonsense. I don't see any indication that the regular AT&T Galaxy S II got JellyBean.
Looks to me like AT&T has thrown their regular Galaxy S II users with bath water.

Wow that's sad. I told a lot of people to avoid the Skyrocket simply because LTE wasn't mature yet and the Exynos chip is better. Whoops.

But even then the other US phones just got it? 5 months after the i9100.

Anyway, I think we should judge a manufacturer's update rating based on the international versions and not the carrier versions.

 

[jacktesterson]

Samsung's Anticipated Releases - Nice to see the SII and Note getting 4.2.2. (Notice the S3/220 variant of the Note is NOT on the list though... The international Exynos/Mali version is listed. Also - No announcements concerning the Note II I317/I317M versions found in US/Canada - although they are almost identical to the N7105 so should be an easy port)

* End at Android 4.2.2 update.
GT-I9080 – Galaxy Grand
GT-I9082 – Galaxy Grand DUOS
GT-I8160 – Galaxy Ace 2
GT-I8190 – Galaxy S III mini
GT-I8350 – Galaxy Beam
GT-I8730 – Galaxy Express
GT-I9070 – Galaxy S Advance
GT-I9100 – Galaxy S II
GT-I9105 – Galaxy S II Plus
GT-I9260 – Galaxy Premier
GT-N7000 – Galaxy Note
GT-S6310 – Galaxy Young
GT-S6312 – Galaxy Young DUOS
GT-S6810 – Galaxy Fame
GT-S7710 – Galaxy X Cover 2

To get Android 5.0.
GT-I9300 – Galaxy S III
GT-I9305 – Galaxy S III LTE
GT-I9500 – Galaxy S 4
GT-I9505 – Galaxy S 4 LTE
GT-N5100 – Galaxy Note 8.0
GT-N5105 – Galaxy Note 8.0 LTE
GT-N5110 – Galaxy Note 8.0 Wi-Fi
GT-N7100 – Galaxy Note II
GT-N7105 – Galaxy Note II LTE
GT-N8000 – Galaxy Note 10.1
GT-N8005 – Galaxy Note 10.1 LTE
GT-N8010 – Galaxy Note 10.1 Wi-Fi

 

[jacktesterson]

I'd say that's a carrier issue more than an HTC issue..


Are the US SIIs even up to 4.1 yet? The AT&T i777 just got 4.0.4 in Dec 2012 or something. correct me if i'm wrong

the i9100's do as far as I'm aware - not sure on the i777 - Probably another Carrier issue.

 

[jacktesterson]

I really wish Sony, HTC, LG and Motorola would come out with lists like the above - Even without release dates - It's an incentive alone to buy Samsung.

 

[poofyhairguy]

the i9100's do as far as I'm aware - not sure on the i777 - Probably another Carrier issue.

Nope i777 never got JB. But anyone that cares can use an Int based ROM.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

the i9100's do as far as I'm aware - not sure on the i777 - Probably another Carrier issue.

Correct. i9100 was a popular phone. It took off across the globe and Samsung took care of it well. I'm glad it got ICS, but was really surprised Samsung was ok with giving it JB too. Still surprised they're going for 4.2.2 also!

Anyway yeah, the i777 got shafted as its practically the same hardware. I see it as a carrier issue. This is why instead of pointing out specific carrier models (like the HTC One S T-mobile), it's better to use the international unlocked version as a judge of the upgrade policies of a phone manufacturer.

 

[Shlong]

ACLU has filed a complaint with the FTC over just that.
http://www.dailytech.com/ACLU+Compl...dates+are+Endangering+People/article30400.htm



The carriers have repeated their standard line about 'testing' though.

The one thing I prefer iOS over Android is that Apple has complete control without carrier interference over the updates. Although it could be easier since it's just for one model line (iPhone) but when Apple has an update, you just update it immediately. On Android, there's the carrier nonsense (besides Nexus), that needs to change.

 

[ChronoReverse]

Wow that's sad. I told a lot of people to avoid the Skyrocket simply because LTE wasn't mature yet and the Exynos chip is better. Whoops.

I used to think that way too but the past two years have conclusively proven that even if the Snapdragon isn't as fast, it's still the one to get if you care about development and updates =(

 

[Red Storm]

The one thing I prefer iOS over Android is that Apple has complete control without carrier interference over the updates. Although it could be easier since it's just for one model line (iPhone) but when Apple has an update, you just update it immediately. On Android, there's the carrier nonsense (besides Nexus), that needs to change.

One thing I prefer with Android over iOS is that I don't have to wait for annual system updates to get most new features, the apps receiving the new features simply update automatically.

 

[Oyeve]

The one thing I prefer iOS over Android is that Apple has complete control without carrier interference over the updates. Although it could be easier since it's just for one model line (iPhone) but when Apple has an update, you just update it immediately. On Android, there's the carrier nonsense (besides Nexus), that needs to change.

Except apples updates renders older devices pratically useless. I updated an old iphone 4 to 6.1.3 and it is so slow that I just leave it the bathroom to browse around while taking a dump. My job provided iphone 5 is getting to be slow as shit too after 6.1.3.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

One thing I prefer with Android over iOS is that I don't have to wait for annual system updates to get most new features, the apps receiving the new features simply update automatically.

But it only happens with certain apps. Google Now, etc is all baked into JB, so unless you do some sideloading you're not going to get all those features in ICS.

So while some apps get updated, you're still highly dependent on the manufacturer releasing updates. And it's not like iOS needs 1 year to get updates. iOS 6 has seen many iterations, all of which are deployed across devices simultaneously. While the Nexus has seen 4.2, 4.2.1, 4.2.2, other devices would be lucky to see 4.2.x

Except apples updates renders older devices pratically useless. I updated an old iphone 4 to 6.1.3 and it is so slow that I just leave it the bathroom to browse around while taking a dump. My job provided iphone 5 is getting to be slow as shit too after 6.1.3.

Perhaps I'm using my iPhone wrong but it's blazing fast on 6.1.3 still. And it's not like an iPhone 4 era Samsung Galaxy S1 is really fast nowadays anyway. But with that said, my iPod Touch 4G which is slower than the iPhone 4 is still quite usable on iOS 6 so I'm not sure what you're talking about.