Rumor: 360 price cuts in September

[Dari]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Dari
Why don't they just swallow their pride and put a hard drive in the Arcade version? Pimping Live and having one of your most attractive models gimped isn't a smart business move.

It's a lower cost option. Nothing wrong with options. There are many people who either have no interest in Xbox Live or no ability to use it (some areas of this country have no broadband Internet).

I guess. I find it ironic that Microsoft is having their lower cost option compete with a system that give a middle finger to networking. You can't have it both ways or else you'll spread yourself thin or alienate potential customers. For example, if the person that has the gimped Arcade decides he wants more functionality out of his machine (there's always that possibility) then they'll have to pay through the nose for the extra options.

And I doubt that people will purchase a gimped 360 because they don't have internet access. They'll buy it because the price makes it attractive. In that sense, putting in a smaller hdd makes perfect sense.

That's why Sony's (and Microsoft's original XBOX) thinking was correct hardware-wise. Give everyone an HDD so that you can have a lowest common denominator for future services. Imagine how Live would've turned out if customers actually had a choice regarding HDD and non-HDD Xboxes.

 

[CorCentral]

WTH is going on here? This thread is not visable on the console page at all.
Rumor: 360 price cuts in September

I understand now why my thread on the 360 price cut got locked as it was a repost, but I can't see the thread on the main page!

I triple checked to make sure I wasn't seeing things, but this thread is not visable on the main page QUEASY.

EDIT: I was right. Just checked the main page after posting the above and it does'nt show.
I'm posting this at the top so it will be fixed.

 

[Queasy]

It may be something with you Cor. It shows up just fine for me.

 

[CorCentral]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
WTH is going on here? This thread is not visable on the console page at all.
Rumor: 360 price cuts in September

I understand now why my thread on the 360 price cut got locked as it was a repost, but I can't see the thread on the main page!

I triple checked to make sure I wasn't seeing things, but this thread is not visable on the main page QUEASY.

EDIT: I was right. Just checked the main page after posting the above and it does'nt show.
I'm posting this at the top so it will be fixed.

Queasy---- You're right. I had you on IGNORE for some reason. I know it had to be a few years back though.

I thought that "Ignore" meant PM's only. I was thinking it meant Everything such as seeing someone's Threads or Posts. Ask Mosh! :laugh: I had her/him on ignore for a considerable amount of time until he/she, tried to PM me.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
Queasy---- You're right. I had you on IGNORE for some reason. I know it had to be a few years back though.

Ignore?!? IGNORE?!?!? Ignore me at your own peril.

 

[CorCentral]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: CorCentral
Queasy---- You're right. I had you on IGNORE for some reason. I know it had to be a few years back though.

Ignore?!? IGNORE?!?!? Ignore me at your own peril.

You're ok I suppose. I just forget why I had you on IGNORE :laugh:

Keep up the good work on the console news. I'm not entering this realm of current consoles.....Waiting 'till the next.

GO SEGA :thumbsup:
SAYYYYYY-GAHHHHHH

 

[YoungGun21]

Ok now I have a huge dilemma.... I'll be selling my Wii on Friday, was planning on picking up an Xbox 360 Friday night. I do not want to wait a month to buy one (in the pic it says the change will occur 09/07/2008). Is there something where if I buy it and the price lowers within X days you can take in the receipt and get a refund? I know we offer that at Staples and I think it is 30 days. Do places like GameStop offer that? Friday is the 8th, that means the change will occur exactly 30 days away.

What options do I have on this?

 

[herkulease]

only thing that has been confirmed or close to being confirmed is 199 for the arcade model. No one knows for sure on the 60gb and 120gb models.

If you can, wait it out until we know for sure that there will be price drops on the other models also. Someone is bound to get their hands on the ads 2 weeks before.

But other stores offer 30 day price guarantees also. best buy, circuit city, Fry's electronics.

 

[Queasy]

Another inventory system screen grab showing the 360 Arcade at $199.99 on 9/7.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: CorCentral Ask Mosh! :laugh: I had her/him on ignore for a considerable amount of time until he/she, tried to PM me.

:laugh:

 

[CasioTech]

If the 360 hits $199, I'm sure sony will budge too.

 

[CasioTech]

Originally posted by: YoungGun21
Ok now I have a huge dilemma.... I'll be selling my Wii on Friday, was planning on picking up an Xbox 360 Friday night. I do not want to wait a month to buy one (in the pic it says the change will occur 09/07/2008). Is there something where if I buy it and the price lowers within X days you can take in the receipt and get a refund? I know we offer that at Staples and I think it is 30 days. Do places like GameStop offer that? Friday is the 8th, that means the change will occur exactly 30 days away.

What options do I have on this?

no gamestop is a shitty store to do that, try that with either target or walmart or bestbuy. Circuit city i'm sure will do the match.

 

[CasioTech]

wait a sec, the 360 core was $299 at launch and it's $280 today, almost 3 years later. All the price drops were for the HDD models which is bs since the HDD's probably cost pennies and the 'core' system is where most of the value lies instead of paying premiums for accessories.

This price drop should have happened a year ago. I remember the xbox went from $299 to $199 after 1 year. Then was half price after 3 years.

I think the arcade should be $179.99, the 20gb should be $199.99 and the 60gb should be $249.99 respectively.

Whatever the 360 cost to make at launch, it's safe to assume it costs them less than half price today, almost 3 years later.

 

[Queasy]

The RROD issues delayed MS being able to reduce the chipset size (the biggest cost reducer) for both the CPU and GPU. That and the PS3's high price is why we haven't seen he price drops faster. This upcoming price drop coincides with the new Jasper chipset making it to the shelves.

 

[Kev]

All I want to know is when the 360 hard drive will go down in price. I need a 120gb so I can copy games to it but $180 price tag is a joke.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Kev
All I want to know is when the 360 hard drive will go down in price. I need a 120gb so I can copy games to it but $180 price tag is a joke.

Don't expect much of a drop.

The 60GB HDD will debut at $100 and come with a headset, ethernet cable, and 3 months of live.

The 120GB HDD will drop down to $150.

So yeah, they are still overpriced.

 

[CasioTech]

Originally posted by: Queasy
The RROD issues delayed MS being able to reduce the chipset size (the biggest cost reducer) for both the CPU and GPU. That and the PS3's high price is why we haven't seen he price drops faster. This upcoming price drop coincides with the new Jasper chipset making it to the shelves.

How many units do they have to sell off before you see the new chipset? Meaning, after the price drop, how long will it take for old inventory to sell off and new units to arrive?

Other than the size, will the new chipset perform better? There is always some small performance gain out of any new chipset.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: CasioTech
How many units do they have to sell off before you see the new chipset? Meaning, after the price drop, how long will it take for old inventory to sell off and new units to arrive?

<shrug> The 60GB 360 has been hitting retail stores as the 20GB has been disappearing but it is the Falcon chipset. I'm sure there will be a couple of months of hunting like there was when the Falcon chipset first started hitting stores.

Other than the size, will the new chipset perform better? There is always some small performance gain out of any new chipset.

The gain is in the form of better reliability because of less power used and less heat generated. There is never a gain in performance for consoles because they're locked-down systems in that regard.

 

[techwanabe]

Can one know if they are buying a Falcon chipset before opening the box?

Also, someone bought the "arcade" version (no hard drive), can a HD be added at a later date?

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: techwanabe
Can one know if they are buying a Falcon chipset before opening the box?

The easiest way to tell is to look at the power usage. 175W is the Falcon.

Also, someone bought the "arcade" version (no hard drive), can a HD be added at a later date?

A MS HDD, yes.

 

[techwanabe]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: techwanabe
Can one know if they are buying a Falcon chipset before opening the box?

The easiest way to tell is to look at the power usage. 175W is the Falcon.

Also, someone bought the "arcade" version (no hard drive), can a HD be added at a later date?

A MS HDD, yes.

Both good to know. I don't have any major reason at this time to get an Xbox360, but for $200, might find a reason. My daughter loved Halo for example and I like RPG's.