Rummy's panties are in a wad

RightIsWrong

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I guess all of the calls of his resignation and the embarrassment of more and more ethical violations being exposed weekly has finally taken its toll on Rummy.

Bitter...party of one...Bitter....your table is ready.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Tuesday accused critics of the Bush administration's Iraq and counterterrorism policies of trying to appease "a new type of fascism."

In unusually explicit terms, Rumsfeld portrayed the administration's critics as suffering from "moral or intellectual confusion" about what threatens the nation's security and accused them of lacking the courage to fight back.

In remarks to several thousand veterans at the American Legion's national convention, Rumsfeld recited what he called the lessons of history, including the failed efforts to appease the Adolf Hitler regime in the 1930s.

"I recount this history because once again we face similar challenges in efforts to confront the rising threat of a new type of fascism," he said.



Rumsfeld spoke to the American Legion as part of a coordinated White House strategy, in advance of the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, to take the offensive against administration critics at a time of doubt about the future of Iraq and growing calls to withdraw U.S. troops.

Rumsfeld recalled a string of recent terrorist attacks, from 9/11 to bombings in Bali, London and Madrid, and said it should be obvious to anyone that terrorists must be confronted, not appeased.

"But some seem not to have learned history's lessons," he said, adding that part of the problem is that the American news media have tended to emphasize the negative rather than the positive.

He said, for example, that more media attention was given to U.S. soldiers' abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib than to the fact that Sgt. 1st Class Paul Ray Smith received the Medal of Honor.

"Can we truly afford to believe somehow, some way, vicious extremists can be appeased?" he asked.

"Those who know the truth need to speak out against these kinds of myths and lies and distortions being told about our troops and about our country," he added.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was addressing the American Legion convention later Tuesday, and President Bush is scheduled to speak here later in the week. On Monday, Vice President Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld made separate addresses to the national convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars in Reno, Nev.

Rumsfeld made similar arguments in Reno about doubters of the administration's approach to fighting terrorism, saying too many in this country want to "blame America first" and ignore the enemy.
 

KGB

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"I recount this history because once again we face similar challenges in efforts to confront the rising threat of a new type of fascism," he said
But some seem not to have learned history's lessons,"

Perhaps Rummy should look in the mirror.
 

catnap1972

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Originally posted by: KGBMAN
"I recount this history because once again we face similar challenges in efforts to confront the rising threat of a new type of fascism," he said
But some seem not to have learned history's lessons,"

Perhaps Rummy should look in the mirror.

LOL--more pot calling the kettle black (him not you).

These Neo-Nuts really are some piece of work :roll:
 

Jaskalas

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Taking a toll? He is saying the clear cut truth, that you consider Americans (him and Bush) the biggest enemy.

saying too many in this country want to "blame America first" and ignore the enemy.
 

catnap1972

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Taking a toll? He is saying the clear cut truth, that you consider Americans (him and Bush) the biggest enemy.

Hey, he'd be right (that'd be a first for him)!

 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Taking a toll? He is saying the clear cut truth, that you consider Americans (him and Bush) the biggest enemy.

saying too many in this country want to "blame America first" and ignore the enemy.

No, I blame the rising new fascist threat, just like Rummy said, the threat to America posed by Neocon fear supported by drones from the right.
 

Moonbeam

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He's upset that he will go down in history as the worthless piece of sh!t who was Secretary of Defense during the Presidency of the another worthless piece of sh!t.
 

Phokus

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He said, for example, that more media attention was given to U.S. soldiers' abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib than to the fact that Sgt. 1st Class Paul Ray Smith received the Medal of Honor.

LOL!!!!!
 

Aisengard

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
He's upset that he will go down in history as the worthless piece of sh!t who was Secretary of Defense during the Presidency of the another worthless piece of sh!t.


:thumbsup:
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Taking a toll? He is saying the clear cut truth, that you consider Americans (him and Bush) the biggest enemy.

saying too many in this country want to "blame America first" and ignore the enemy.

Uh well I think it comes from knowing that terrorists can do very little to hurt us (and that has almost nothing to do with Bush or Rummy). To the contrary, Bush and Rummy can do a lot to hurt America and they have.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Taking a toll? He is saying the clear cut truth, that you consider Americans (him and Bush) the biggest enemy.
Aw... You left out Cheney, Rove, Wolfowitz, Douglass Fife, and the rest of the neocon dipsh8ts. All they did was start a war based on lies that, so far, has killed at least 2,600 American troops, wounded tens of thousands more, killed tens of thousands more innocent Iraqis and others.

Along the way, they neglected the one fight they took on in Afghanistan to the point where a couple of our real enemies, Al Qaeda and the Taliban, are once again gaining strength, and they've depleted the resources of our military to deal with any serious future emergency. Who the hell do you think we have to send if we really need them to deal with N. Korea, Iran or anyone else? :roll:

Meanwhile, they've spent your great grandchildren into debt they won't be able to pay off in their lifetimes, and we're way short of the money we need to deal with local emergencies. They screwed the pooch dealing with Katrina. They've done even worse dealing with the aftermath of that, and if you thought that was a problem, what do you think is going happen when the next natural disaster strikes?

All told, these idiots are the worst and most criminal adminstration in U.S. history. I'd say that qualifies them as our enemies.

Gosh, oh golly gee. Do you think these TRAITORS deserve anything better than a long stay at the Guantanamo Hilton? :|
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Taking a toll? He is saying the clear cut truth, that you consider Americans (him and Bush) the biggest enemy.
Aw... You left out Cheney, Rove, Wolfowitz, Douglass Fife, and the rest of the neocon dipsh8ts. All they did was start a war based on lies that, so far, has killed at least 2,600 American troops, wounded tens of thousands more, killed tens of thousands more innocent Iraqis and others.

Along the way, they neglected the one fight they took on in Afghanistan to the point where a couple of our real enemies, Al Qaeda and the Taliban, are once again gaining strength, and they've depleted the resources of our military to deal with any serious future emergency. Who the hell do you think we have to send if we really need them to deal with N. Korea, Iran or anyone else? :roll:

Meanwhile, they've spent your great grandchildren into debt they won't be able to pay off in their lifetimes, and we're way short of the money we need to deal with local emergencies. They screwed the pooch dealing with Katrina. They've done even worse dealing with the aftermath of that, and if you thought that was a problem, what do you think is going happen when the next natural disaster strikes?

All told, these idiots are the worst and most criminal adminstration in U.S. history. I'd say that qualifies them as our enemies.

Gosh, oh golly gee. Do you think these TRAITORS deserve anything better than a long stay at the Guantanamo Hilton? :|


Impressed by your ability to stuff so many talking points into a single rant.

/clap
 

Theb

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How long before he just sits on the porch mumbling that everyone is Hitler?
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Impressed by your ability to stuff so many talking points into a single rant.

/clap
I didn't get to all of them, but maybe enough to make the point. I'd return the compliment if you'd bothered to acknowledge the fact that they all happen to be true. :(
 

kage69

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He said, for example, that more media attention was given to U.S. soldiers' abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib than to the fact that Sgt. 1st Class Paul Ray Smith received the Medal of Honor.

Coming from someone who held a pivotal role in the confounding decoration of Jessica Lynch, that's a real fvckin hoot. :|

Proof that Bush doesn't hold a monoply on the stupidity in DC.





 

feralkid

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Stupid Bush Administration trying to win public support by invoking terms from the last "good" war.

:roll:


fas?cism /'fæ??z?m/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[fash-iz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
?noun
1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
2. (sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.
3. (initial capital letter) a fascist movement, esp. the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922?43.



So what Governmental system led by which dictator does he think he can convince us we are at war with?



IDJITZ they are! (though their tactics with the American people have been more successful than those they've used to lose this war.)








 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Taking a toll? He is saying the clear cut truth, that you consider Americans (him and Bush) the biggest enemy.
Aw... You left out Cheney, Rove, Wolfowitz, Douglass Fife, and the rest of the neocon dipsh8ts. All they did was start a war based on lies that, so far, has killed at least 2,600 American troops, wounded tens of thousands more, killed tens of thousands more innocent Iraqis and others.

Along the way, they neglected the one fight they took on in Afghanistan to the point where a couple of our real enemies, Al Qaeda and the Taliban, are once again gaining strength, and they've depleted the resources of our military to deal with any serious future emergency. Who the hell do you think we have to send if we really need them to deal with N. Korea, Iran or anyone else? :roll:

Meanwhile, they've spent your great grandchildren into debt they won't be able to pay off in their lifetimes, and we're way short of the money we need to deal with local emergencies. They screwed the pooch dealing with Katrina. They've done even worse dealing with the aftermath of that, and if you thought that was a problem, what do you think is going happen when the next natural disaster strikes?

All told, these idiots are the worst and most criminal adminstration in U.S. history. I'd say that qualifies them as our enemies.

Gosh, oh golly gee. Do you think these TRAITORS deserve anything better than a long stay at the Guantanamo Hilton? :|


Impressed by your ability to stuff so many talking points into a single rant.

/clap
hehehe those aren't talking points. Those just happen to be a portion of the failures of this administration.

just a portion mind you...

 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Taking a toll? He is saying the clear cut truth, that you consider Americans (him and Bush) the biggest enemy.

saying too many in this country want to "blame America first" and ignore the enemy.

I don't understand this "either-or" viewpoint Rummy and other Bush supporters have. I do not find any ideological conflict in thinking we need to fight terrorism AND thinking Bush is an idiot who's putting us in more danger. In fact, I consider taking a non-Bush approach to be one of the key actions we can take to do a better job in fighting terrorists.
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Taking a toll? He is saying the clear cut truth, that you consider Americans (him and Bush) the biggest enemy.

saying too many in this country want to "blame America first" and ignore the enemy.


He can wrap his ass in the flag all he wants but it wont take away from the fact that Iraq is his turd. Oh and this isn't a war against facism but against social religous conservetism in the Middle-East.
 

DickFnTracy

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Taking a toll? He is saying the clear cut truth, that you consider Americans (him and Bush) the biggest enemy.

saying too many in this country want to "blame America first" and ignore the enemy.

Uh well I think it comes from knowing that terrorists can do very little to hurt us (and that has almost nothing to do with Bush or Rummy). To the contrary, Bush and Rummy can do a lot to hurt America and they have.


Congratulations you just made his point for him. Game, set and match. It is exactly that uninitiated, ignorant mindset that Rummy is talking about. You have no clue who the enemy is, what their capabilities are, what their plans are, etc. You simply sit in the cheap seats criticizing whenever something doesn't go exactly as you think it should but you're clueless and thank God, irrelevant. Stick to what you know, which is being big pharma's b!tch boy in the RTP.

Rumsfeld FTW.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Taking a toll? He is saying the clear cut truth, that you consider Americans (him and Bush) the biggest enemy.

saying too many in this country want to "blame America first" and ignore the enemy.

I don't understand this "either-or" viewpoint Rummy and other Bush supporters have. I do not find any ideological conflict in thinking we need to fight terrorism AND thinking Bush is an idiot who's putting us in more danger. In fact, I consider taking a non-Bush approach to be one of the key actions we can take to do a better job in fighting terrorists.

Maybe I'm not old enough to know but has this always been how politicians operate? Has it always been TWO views . . . one right and one wrong? Personally, it's hard for me to believe our nation really got this far . . . being that stupid.

I try my best to cling to my Christian-sourced principles but I ain't Jesus so its easy for me say, "yeah that MF probably has to die." But that's not a solution . . . it's a tactic. Kinda like killing all the people you think are witches . . .