I'm wondering if the RTX 3090 Ti is still worth trying to get, especially at $1100 and a brand new one? I read that the 7900XTX has overheating issues and the the RTX 4080 and 4090 have the power plug melting issue and people having to buy a 3rd party power adapter for those cards to avoid the issue. I really wanted a 4090 if it weren't for the power plug issue. I'm not sure if the power plug issue with the 4080 and 4090 is exaggerated. I have a Fractual Meshify C case. Is the 3090 TI my best bet if I can get one and I want to be safe but have excellent performance?
Question RTX 3090 Ti still worth buying?
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biostud
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No, just get a AIB 7900XTX or a 4080, the problems are blown out of proportions.
The 4080 doesn't have the power plug issue? I thought it did since it uses the same power plug connector. I rather have a 4080 than a 3090 Ti if it doesn't have the power plug issue plus a 4080 will be easier on my 850W power supply than a 3090 Ti and is faster than a 3090 Ti. I've been waiting years to upgrade from my 1080 Ti and as a result saving up lots of money and if the 4090 didn't have that issue I would rather get that instead of the 4080, considering the years I went without a video card upgrade.
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DO NOT BUY AN RTX 3090 TI! It consumes more power than even the RTX 4090 and is slower than the RTX 4080.
Like @biostud suggested, get an AIB 7900XTX of an RTX 4080, or maybe wait for the RTX 4070 Ti if you don't want to spend too much.
The 16 pin power cable issue is overblown as it was caused by improper seating of the cable. So if you get an RTX 4000 series card, just make sure the damn cable is seated properly and you won't have any problems.......most likely
Like @biostud suggested, get an AIB 7900XTX of an RTX 4080, or maybe wait for the RTX 4070 Ti if you don't want to spend too much.
The 16 pin power cable issue is overblown as it was caused by improper seating of the cable. So if you get an RTX 4000 series card, just make sure the damn cable is seated properly and you won't have any problems.......most likely
I upgraded from a Titan Xp to an RTX 4090 and I'm both very impressed by and very happy with the card's performance, temperatures and power efficiency. So if you can afford the RTX 4090, definitely get one.
But if the rest of your system is too old, it will bottleneck these new cards.
Get the Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX, if you can, from Central Computers.
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This is much better than getting the 4080. You get 8 GB more VRAM.
But if somehow RTX/DLSS/Geforce drivers matter to you more from a practical point of view, get an AIB 4080: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gef...c-16gd/p/N82E16814932560?Item=N82E16814932560
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This is much better than getting the 4080. You get 8 GB more VRAM.
But if somehow RTX/DLSS/Geforce drivers matter to you more from a practical point of view, get an AIB 4080: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gef...c-16gd/p/N82E16814932560?Item=N82E16814932560
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4080 doesn't have the issue, it draws around 280-320W and consumes less power than a 3080TI.
It might be a decent buy but not at that price, since it's much slower than any of the newer cards and also more power hungry. I'm surprised it's selling at that price on ebay.
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Definitely a good option, if you live in the bay area, but these should be in store only, first come first serve. I would call ahead if you go, as sometimes the inventory numbers on the website are incorrect, or some are being used for system builds.Get the Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX, if you can, from Central Computers.
Sapphire 11322-01-40G NITRO+ RX 7900 XTX AMD Radeon Vapor-X 24GB Gaming Graphics Card AMD RDNA 3 24GB GDDR6
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4 left in San Franciso. In-store only.
This is much better than getting the 4080. You get 8 GB more VRAM.
But if somehow RTX/DLSS/Geforce drivers matter to you more from a practical point of view, get an AIB 4080: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gef...c-16gd/p/N82E16814932560?Item=N82E16814932560
As for the 3090 Ti, it makes decent sense if less than $900, if it is a good model with 8 pin connectors. (some use the 12 pin). But for $1100, I don't think they are worth it now. In general, I would be patient and wait for a good model of 7900XTX (non reference), or possibly a 7900XT or 4080.
I personally don't like the 12 pin connector, but it should less of an issue with a 4080, which should use less power. Keep in mind, the adapters will vary in quality and current rating, that is part of the problem that has been found. So for current gen cards, if you don't want a 12 pin, you are limited to Radeon, which is a good option except that the good cards are generally scalped or hard to find. And again, some reference 7900 XTX cards have the vapor chamber issues. I think it is limited to certain batches though, but to be safe, you may want to just wait a bit, and get a good 7900 XTX model with 3 8 pins and a great cooler.
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The 4080/4090 don't have power plug issues just as long as you have working eyes and don't have potatoes for fingers.
It may also help to install the card parallel to the mobo with a riser cable. That way, the case cover will not press down on the cables coming out of the connector in a case with not that much depth.
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My understanding is that it may be an adapter QA / build issue? Though I don't think the 12 pin itself is a great design either, you may technically be right, I believe it is the adapters that fry.
Most of the difference comes from the higher power limit which allows higher boost clocks. It's only like 2-3% faster if you compare it to a 3090 with the same power limit or undervolted to hit the same speed.
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The issue only seems to occur when the connector is not properly seated. Since that was pointed out, new cases really seem to have dried up.
Also, IIRC the 3090 Ti has the exact same connector and draws even more power. So if you are scared of the power connector, you should really avoid the 3090 Ti.
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Hmm, I seem to recall that there were adapters where on video they were taken apart, and some were quite shoddily made. Also, some with lower guague wireing rated for only 150A instead of 300A. But perhaps even this was a non issue so long as everything was snug plugged? Or perhaps the poorly made adapters all fried up already, and are no longer being made
As for 3090 Ti, my understanding was that some cards used the 12 pin, but some partner cards used 8 pin connectors. Maybe not?
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Hmm, I seem to recall that there were adapters where on video they were taken apart, and some were quite shoddily made. Also, some with lower guague wireing rated for only 150A instead of 300A. But perhaps even this was a non issue so long as everything was snug plugged? Or perhaps the poorly made adapters all fried up already, and are no longer being made
As for 3090 Ti, my understanding was that some cards used the 12 pin, but some partner cards used 8 pin connectors. Maybe not?
There was some random theory crafting about shoddy connectors. Speculating that one of the two designs was at fault. It was just BS. Failures were essentially evenly split between the connector types, and seem to be entirely caused by the connectors not being seated correctly. Not just being improperly seated, but basically very loose and pulled to one side.
It also had nothing to do with the adaptors because it happened with native cables as well.
Bottom line, when dealing with 450 Watts or more, it helps to actually fully plug in your power cable.
Also, every 3090 Ti that I checked had the same new 16 pin connector that is on the 4000 series. See if you can find one using 8 pin connectors.
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I thought some were very tight, so some users didn't manage to plug it completely in.
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Well, if upgrading from a 1080 Ti, I see several good options here: 7900XT, a good partner model of 7900XTX (more expensive and harder to find) or save a good amount of money and get a used, but good, 3090. Good 3090 options can be had for around $700 I suspect. Many, if not all, of the 3090Ti cards may have the new connector, and they aren't a whole lot faster than the 3090, but use a fair deal more power.
So, I retract my previous statement that a 3090Ti would be ok at a better price. If you want to save money, get a 3090 with 8 pins, or a 7900XT. Even a 3080 Ti is a decent option and upgrade if the price is low, though you won't be getting as much video memory as with the other cards.
So, I retract my previous statement that a 3090Ti would be ok at a better price. If you want to save money, get a 3090 with 8 pins, or a 7900XT. Even a 3080 Ti is a decent option and upgrade if the price is low, though you won't be getting as much video memory as with the other cards.
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The issue with that, is that if you actually apply reasonable force, and it didn't click home, it would still be tightly in place, due to friction. The issue shown on melted connectors is that they were not tightly pushed in at all, but very loose.
Once the issue was known, and people were being careful I don't think I've seen a case, where people couldn't seat the connector.
IMO, tight connector played a part, but it's mainly people not paying adequate attention. Which is rampant on any DIY stuff done. There is YT channel called "Just Rolled In" where car mechanics show what came into their shop and people's DIY on their cars just blows my mind...
If you are aware and paying attention, it's a complete non issue.
I'm sure there have been plenty of inadequately seated 8 pins out there as well, but they don't have as much current density to cause issues, but when dealing with 450 Watts+ in one connector, paying adequate attention is a must.
Back around to the 3090 Ti. It's the exact same connector. If careless it's susceptible to the same issues. But that wouldn't be my reason to avoid it.
I'd Avoid the 3090 Ti because of obscene power requirements, even higher than the 4090.
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