Roy Moore running for gov of Alabama

RightIsWrong

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So.....will the Repub primary challanger call him out for believing that he is above the law for refusing to follow court orders to remove the display or will that have to wait for the showdown with the Dem?

CNN Story

GADSDEN, Alabama (AP) -- Roy Moore, who became a hero to the Christian right after being ousted as Alabama's chief justice for refusing to remove a monument of the Ten Commandments from the courthouse, announced Monday that he is running for governor in 2006.

Moore's candidacy could set up a showdown with Gov. Bob Riley, a fellow Republican, and turn the Ten Commandments dispute into a central campaign issue in this Bible Belt state.

Two Democrats, Lt. Gov. Lucy Baxley and former Gov. Don Siegelman, are already running. The Republican and Democratic primaries are June 6.

In 2000, Alabama voters elected Moore as chief justice of the state Supreme Court, and the next summer he had a 5,300-pound granite monument of the Ten Commandments installed in the rotunda of the state judicial building. A federal judge ordered Moore to remove the monument, but Moore refused.

His fellow justices had the monument moved to a storage site out of public view. And in November 2003, a state judicial court kicked Moore out of office for defying the federal court.

Moore took appeals all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court and lost at every level.

Since then, he has traveled the country, speaking to church and conservative groups and promoting his book about the controversy, "So Help Me God."
 

Todd33

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Since then, he has traveled the country, speaking to church and conservative groups and promoting his book about the controversy, "So Help Me God."

Maybe he should stick with that, preach to the choir and keep his nose out of public life.
 

dahunan

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Let the Fundies have Alabama
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'Katrina was God's punishment'
Posted: Oct 3, 2005, 04:53 AM
Alabama lawmaker writes that Katrina was God's punishment

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) - A state Senator from Shelby County, Alabama, says Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment on a sinful part of America.

Hank Erwin wrote in a weekly column for news outlets -- quote -- "New Orleans and the Mississippi Gulf Coast have always been known for gambling, sin and wickedness. It is the kind of behavior that ultimately brings the judgment of God."

The Alabama Republican wrote the column after touring hurricane-ravaged coastal areas.

Erwin's column says, "Warnings year after year by godly evangelists and preachers went unheeded. So why were we surprised when finally the hand of judgment fell?"

The New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary was flooded by Katrina. But Erwin said the Baptists knew they were ministering in a sinful place that could be targeted.




 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Let the Fundies have Alabama
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'Katrina was God's punishment'
Posted: Oct 3, 2005, 04:53 AM
Alabama lawmaker writes that Katrina was God's punishment

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) - A state Senator from Shelby County, Alabama, says Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment on a sinful part of America.

Hank Erwin wrote in a weekly column for news outlets -- quote -- "New Orleans and the Mississippi Gulf Coast have always been known for gambling, sin and wickedness. It is the kind of behavior that ultimately brings the judgment of God."

The Alabama Republican wrote the column after touring hurricane-ravaged coastal areas.

Erwin's column says, "Warnings year after year by godly evangelists and preachers went unheeded. So why were we surprised when finally the hand of judgment fell?"

The New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary was flooded by Katrina. But Erwin said the Baptists knew they were ministering in a sinful place that could be targeted.

Idiocy FTW! ;)
 

shira

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The New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary was flooded by Katrina. But Erwin said the Baptists knew they were ministering in a sinful place that could be targeted.

Kind of makes you wonder why it is that the God of these cretin true-believers can't seem to focus his vengeance against actual sinners. How is it that this omnipotent, omniscient super-being can't protect the innocent against "collateral damage"?

I guess every child with cancer is just a consequence of God's lousy aim.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: raildogg
is there a problem with this?

Believing in the 10 commandments is a good thing.

Yes, there is a problem with it if those who believe in the 10 commandments as an expression of their religion use the power of government to enforce their beliefs on others with other beliefs.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: raildogg
is there a problem with this?

Believing in the 10 commandments is a good thing.

Yes, there is a problem with it if those who believe in the 10 commandments as an expression of their religion use the power of government to enforce their beliefs on others with other beliefs.

It was wrong of him to disobey the orders. For that, he should be held accountable. But he has right to run and hopefully he has learned his lesson. We don't need anymore people in office who don't follow the law.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: raildogg
is there a problem with this?

Believing in the 10 commandments is a good thing.

Yes, there is a problem with it if those who believe in the 10 commandments as an expression of their religion use the power of government to enforce their beliefs on others with other beliefs.
he wasn't allowed to "force his beliefs" with the 10 commandments as he got sh!tcanned for not obeying the ruling.
 

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I live in Madison, AL (suburb of Huntsville) at the moment.

I recall some political TV ads where they painted the democrat as evil because they didn't support putting ten commandments all over public property.
 

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Originally posted by: raildogg
It was wrong of him to disobey the orders. For that, he should be held accountable. But he has right to run and hopefully he has learned his lesson. We don't need anymore people in office who don't follow the law.
Learned his lesson??? Last time I saw that bozo on TV, since the decision, he was as much a religious nutcase as ever, and he still thinks he was right.

People like him in positions of power scare me. :|
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: raildogg
It was wrong of him to disobey the orders. For that, he should be held accountable. But he has right to run and hopefully he has learned his lesson. We don't need anymore people in office who don't follow the law.
Learned his lesson??? I've seen that bozo on TV since the decision. He's as much a religious nutcase as ever, and he still thinks he was right.

How is he a religious nutcase? for believing in the 10 commandments and/or trying to showcase them in front of the court?
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: raildogg
It was wrong of him to disobey the orders. For that, he should be held accountable. But he has right to run and hopefully he has learned his lesson. We don't need anymore people in office who don't follow the law.
Learned his lesson??? I've seen that bozo on TV since the decision. He's as much a religious nutcase as ever, and he still thinks he was right.

How is he a religious nutcase? for believing in the 10 commandments and/or trying to showcase them in front of the court?

Hard to phrase this question right.. Do you think he discriminates *not always a bad term* against non-believers or feels anything different for people who do not believe what he does... possibly something deragatory towards them?

Did he try as hard as he possibly could to force his religious beliefs on the people outside his courthouse

I remember some story from the NT about not praying in public so others can see you etc etc...
 

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: raildogg
is there a problem with this?

Believing in the 10 commandments is a good thing.

Yes, there is a problem with it if those who believe in the 10 commandments as an expression of their religion use the power of government to enforce their beliefs on others with other beliefs.

It was wrong of him to disobey the orders. For that, he should be held accountable. But he has right to run and hopefully he has learned his lesson. We don't need anymore people in office who don't follow the law.

why even take the risk that he didnt "learn his lesson?"
 

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Since then, he has traveled the country, speaking to church and conservative groups and promoting his book about the controversy, "So Help Me God."

Maybe he should stick with that, preach to the choir and keep his nose out of public life.

Would be preferable, but I bet he wins anyway. America is becoming a Christian version Iran.
 

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Let the Fundies have Alabama
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'Katrina was God's punishment'
Posted: Oct 3, 2005, 04:53 AM
Alabama lawmaker writes that Katrina was God's punishment

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) - A state Senator from Shelby County, Alabama, says Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment on a sinful part of America.

Hank Erwin wrote in a weekly column for news outlets -- quote -- "New Orleans and the Mississippi Gulf Coast have always been known for gambling, sin and wickedness. It is the kind of behavior that ultimately brings the judgment of God."

The Alabama Republican wrote the column after touring hurricane-ravaged coastal areas.

Erwin's column says, "Warnings year after year by godly evangelists and preachers went unheeded. So why were we surprised when finally the hand of judgment fell?"

The New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary was flooded by Katrina. But Erwin said the Baptists knew they were ministering in a sinful place that could be targeted.

Glad you don't like the place and trust you to stay out of it.

 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: idioth
i fear the stupidity of my fellow alabamians.

No doubt, it will be Governor Moore of Alabama thanks to all the Church going folk.

I doubt he will even get the nomination. If he does, I think I will vote for him just to piss you off!

 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: raildogg
is there a problem with this?

Believing in the 10 commandments is a good thing.

Yes, there is a problem with it if those who believe in the 10 commandments as an expression of their religion use the power of government to enforce their beliefs on others with other beliefs.

Judges always force someones beliefs on someone else. That is the job. I don't like seatbelts. If I am pulled over, the judge will force someones elses belief on me and fine me for a seatbelt violation. You saying you disagree with that?

 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: raildogg
It was wrong of him to disobey the orders. For that, he should be held accountable. But he has right to run and hopefully he has learned his lesson. We don't need anymore people in office who don't follow the law.
Learned his lesson??? Last time I saw that bozo on TV, since the decision, he was as much a religious nutcase as ever, and he still thinks he was right.

People like him in positions of power scare me. :|

We Republicans dislike the religious right almost as much as we dislike left wing liberals!