Rove Predicts a Republican majority for 20-60 years...

[Pliablemoose]

MR. RUSSERT: You have said that you--your ultimate goal is a permanent Republican majority. What does that mean?

MR. ROVE: Well, first of all, there are no permanent majorities in American politics. They last for about 20 or 30 or 40 or, in the case of the Roosevelt coalition, 50 or 60 years and then they disappear.

Guess there won't be any need for the Democrats to change for a while

Buckle up conservatives, you're going to hear about stolen elections for a long time...

 

[conjur]

Pride goeth before the fall.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: conjur
Pride goeth before the fall.

In 60 years, maybe...

 

[conjur]

Dream on. There's no way this country will put up with abrasive social conservatism being exhibited by the right. How long did Prohibition last? What about McCarthyism?

 

[Train]

Well if the Dems keep picking whackos like Hillary or Kerry, we could just continue Beating them with whackos like GW

 

[Red Dawn]

Good, maybe true Conservatives will take back the Republican Party!

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

If there's one thing Americans don't like it's being told what to do.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Good, maybe true Conservatives will take back the Republican Party!

:thumbsup:

well, actually I'd prefer the Libertarian Repubs, but close enough

 

[NeoV]

Kerry was a wacko candidate?

 

[earthman]

It is pretty funny how a middle-of-the-road guy like Kerry keeps getting defined as a "whacko liberal". It shows just how uninterested the right is in any real diversity, and also that if you keep lying enough most people will just buy it.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: conjur
Dream on. There's no way this country will put up with abrasive social conservatism being exhibited by the right. How long did Prohibition last? What about McCarthyism?

& how wrong were you in this election?

There's been a subtle shift to the right, I don't see that trend changing for a while...

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: conjur
Dream on. There's no way this country will put up with abrasive social conservatism being exhibited by the right. How long did Prohibition last? What about McCarthyism?

& how wrong were you in this election?

There's been a subtle shift to the right, I don't see that trend changing for a while...

I was wrong about the election. How does that prove this trend won't end soon? Seems to me that we're about at the peak of bigotry and social conservativism. It will come crashing down soon. This country and trended toward social liberalism over the years. Just look at our history.

 

[Tarpon6]

Kerry middle of the road? Bwahahahaha. He is the most liberal senator, period.

Originally posted by: earthman
It is pretty funny how a middle-of-the-road guy like Kerry keeps getting defined as a "whacko liberal". It shows just how uninterested the right is in any real diversity, and also that if you keep lying enough most people will just buy it.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Tarpon6
Kerry middle of the road? Bwahahahaha. He is the most liberal senator, period.

BZZZT! Wrong!!

Your rhetoric and $1 will get you a cup of coffee at a gas station.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Tarpon6
Kerry middle of the road? Bwahahahaha. He is the most liberal senator, period.

BZZZT! Wrong!!

Your rhetoric and $1 will get you a cup of coffee at a gas station.

who is the most liberal senator?

 

[Gravity]

Originally posted by: conjur
Dream on. There's no way this country will put up with abrasive social conservatism being exhibited by the right. How long did Prohibition last? What about McCarthyism?

I understand your notion, however, I feel that Americans don't perceive this administration as oppressive or fundamentally moving in an errant direction.

I don't think the same can be said of the Dems, who basically shared some of the same ideas but differed on pace of their implementation.

Additionally, the moral issues will have to be resolved. The majority of americans support the moral stances of the current admin so departing from those ideals will be an uphill battle for the dems.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Tarpon6
Kerry middle of the road? Bwahahahaha. He is the most liberal senator, period.

BZZZT! Wrong!!

Your rhetoric and $1 will get you a cup of coffee at a gas station.

who is the most liberal senator?

Kennedy is more liberal.


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...2&threadid=1360281

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepa...n/26mann_CA.ready.html

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Tarpon6
Kerry middle of the road? Bwahahahaha. He is the most liberal senator, period.

BZZZT! Wrong!!

Your rhetoric and $1 will get you a cup of coffee at a gas station.

who is the most liberal senator?

Kerry;s close. Amamzing such a Liberal Politician can come so close to beating the Dub. To me it says more about the Dub's suckage than it does about him doing a good job. If he had been doing a good Job he would have had a landslide victory like Reagan did over Mondale.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Gravity

Originally posted by: conjur
Dream on. There's no way this country will put up with abrasive social conservatism being exhibited by the right. How long did Prohibition last? What about McCarthyism?

I understand your notion, however, I feel that Americans don't perceive this administration as oppressive or fundamentally moving in an errant direction.

I don't think the same can be said of the Dems, who basically shared some of the same ideas but differed on pace of their implementation.

Additionally, the moral issues will have to be resolved. The majority of americans support the moral stances of the current admin so departing from those ideals will be an uphill battle for the dems.

What majority? The 20% of the US that voted for the Bush? The 2.5% more than voted for Kerry?

And the reason that Americans don't see what this administration is doing is due to the media not doing its job properly.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Kerry;s close. Amamzing such a Liberal Politician can come so close to beating the Dub. To me it says more about the Dub's suckage than it does about him doing a good job. If he had been doing a good Job he would have had a landslide victory like Reagan did over Mondale.

you probably have the right of it, there.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: earthman
It is pretty funny how a middle-of-the-road guy like Kerry keeps getting defined as a "whacko liberal". It shows just how uninterested the right is in any real diversity, and also that if you keep lying enough most people will just buy it.

yes, but why aren't liberals using these tactics?

why isn't there a set of liberal "talking points" that we can all repeat ad nauseum?

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Gravity

Originally posted by: conjur
Dream on. There's no way this country will put up with abrasive social conservatism being exhibited by the right. How long did Prohibition last? What about McCarthyism?

I understand your notion, however, I feel that Americans don't perceive this administration as oppressive or fundamentally moving in an errant direction.

I don't think the same can be said of the Dems, who basically shared some of the same ideas but differed on pace of their implementation.

Additionally, the moral issues will have to be resolved. The majority of americans support the moral stances of the current admin so departing from those ideals will be an uphill battle for the dems.

What majority? The 20% of the US that voted for the Bush? The 2.5% more than voted for Kerry?

And the reason that Americans don't see what this administration is doing is due to the media not doing its job properly.

And the reason that Americans don't see what this administration is doing is due to the media not doing its job properly.

Yes it is. Just look at the coverage of the RNC convention. The media got the propaganda message out quite efficiently. :roll:

 

[phantom309]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
If there's one thing Americans don't like it's being told what to do.

Yes, but they sure love telling everyone else what to do!

 

[Tarpon6]

I admit it! I may have been wrong! Kerry is the second most liberal, just a touch behind Ted "The Head" Kennedy. Good thing you made that point.... :roll:

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Tarpon6
Kerry middle of the road? Bwahahahaha. He is the most liberal senator, period.

BZZZT! Wrong!!

Your rhetoric and $1 will get you a cup of coffee at a gas station.

who is the most liberal senator?

Kennedy is more liberal.


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...2&threadid=1360281

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepa...n/26mann_CA.ready.html

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: conjur
I was wrong about the election. How does that prove this trend won't end soon? Seems to me that we're about at the peak of bigotry and social conservativism. It will come crashing down soon. This country and trended toward social liberalism over the years. Just look at our history.

I disagree in that I don't think we are at the peak for any bigotry and social conservatism, instead I see their being two distinct competing forces which will constantly clash, or at least for some time...the coastal areas and urban centers are generally socially liberal wheras you have the middle states holding onto their conservatism...what you are saying is that the conservative areas will suddenly fold to the ideals of the liberals, personally I don't see it happening any time soon.