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Roush Parts for my F-150

xBiffx

xBiffx

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About to pull the trigger on some upgrades next week. It's for a 2013 Ecoboost.

Getting a new CAI + tune:

Phase 1 Power Pack

Also getting an exhaust:

F-150 Exhaust

I debated on getting right side exit exhaust like the one that is stock but I think the straight out the back one would stand out more and maybe even be better flow (less turns).

One of the Ford dealers near me is a Roush dealer so they can install these as well. Tech said it would take about 3.5 hours and at $110/hr I'm looking at ~$400 labor. That puts the whole upgrade right at about $1,700.

Thoughts, warnings, ideas? Thanks!
 
Each product's installation page says 1 hour to install. A quote for 3-4 hours of labor sounds like someone's going to work on it for 90 minutes and collect $400, but if you can't do it yourself you might be stuck paying someone. Drive to Phoenix and I'll do it for $100. 😛

There may be better options for you, though. Reading up on it a little bit, it looks like the Roush tunes aren't really that great (this is generally the case for mass-market tunes when compared to individualized dyno tunes by a competent tuner): http://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/13-f150-ecoboost-performance/3173-roush-phase-1-power-pack.html

I would explore alternative tuning options before going with the Roush tune. Not only will you likely get more power, it'll also be a safer tune.
 
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jlee said:
Each product's installation page says 1 hour to install. A quote for 3-4 hours of labor sounds like someone's going to work on it for 90 minutes and collect $400, but if you can't do it yourself you might be stuck paying someone. Drive to Phoenix and I'll do it for $100. 😛

There may be better options for you, though. Reading up on it a little bit, it looks like the Roush tunes aren't really that great (this is generally the case for mass-market tunes when compared to individualized dyno tunes by a competent tuner): http://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/13-f150-ecoboost-performance/3173-roush-phase-1-power-pack.html

I would explore alternative tuning options before going with the Roush tune. Not only will you likely get more power, it'll also be a safer tune.
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I need them to do it for the warranty, at least on the intake/tune.

I think he overestimated and gave me worst case. I doubt, after talking with the guy and how knowledgeable he was, it will cost this much.
 
jlee said:
There may be better options for you, though. Reading up on it a little bit, it looks like the Roush tunes aren't really that great (this is generally the case for mass-market tunes when compared to individualized dyno tunes by a competent tuner): http://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/13...ower-pack.html

I would explore alternative tuning options before going with the Roush tune. Not only will you likely get more power, it'll also be a safer tune.
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I didn't get to this part of your post before boss came over to invade my cube. 😡

Anyways, I read that forum the other day. I really don't get "Roush tunes aren't really that great" from it. I know a Roush tune is going to be conservative vs. say a 5 Star but that's a good thing IMO. Especially since Roush provides a warranty whereas many others do not. I think the chance of something going wrong is low and if it does, I can fall back on the warranty and the fact that a Ford dealer did the work. Not the case if I do it myself.

I would think the Roush is going to be safe specifically because it goes for modest improvement and not engine blowing peak numbers. :hmm:
 
Each to his own I guess but I would try never to knock someone elses ride even though it is a utility vehicle. Kinda like putting slicks on a wheelbarrow.

But! If I owned a truck I think the first mod I would do would be to increase the torque power and max it out. I could care less about CAI unless I was going to mod the back of the truck and make the muffler go verticle behind the cab unit like an 18 wheeler does which lets the truck run even in very deep water. The upgrade the transmission radiator heat exchanger. Once mods are complete then I can tow any other car and truck my friends have and even put mod in the front so I could be hired in the winter months to plow snow for $400 an hour.
 
inachu said:
Each to his own I guess but I would try never to knock someone elses ride even though it is a utility vehicle.
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Not really worth responding to...but these trucks can easily be quicker than most "sports cars" with only a little bit of modding. People who like cars, generally like to make them faster. People who don't like cars, don't understand.

OP, is your warranty through Ford or Roush? I know that most tuned EB's are fine, but I've ready a couple of stories of people who have done some fairly mild tunes on their EB's, and they've ended up blowing up.

Looking forward to hearing the results.
 
railer said:
Not really worth responding to...but these trucks can easily be quicker than most "sports cars" with only a little bit of modding. People who like cars, generally like to make them faster. People who don't like cars, don't understand.

OP, is your warranty through Ford or Roush? I know that most tuned EB's are fine, but I've ready a couple of stories of people who have done some fairly mild tunes on their EB's, and they've ended up blowing up.

Looking forward to hearing the results.
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Funny, these two comments seem to contradict each other. :awe:
 
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JulesMaximus said:
Funny, these two comments seem to contradict each other. :awe:
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I don't see the contradiction. You can make them fast, easily and cheaply. Some people have blown them up. So...a warranty is a good thing to have I guess is the moral of that story.
 
railer said:
OP, is your warranty through Ford or Roush? I know that most tuned EB's are fine, but I've ready a couple of stories of people who have done some fairly mild tunes on their EB's, and they've ended up blowing up.

Looking forward to hearing the results.
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The tune warranty would be through Roush, however I still think that Ford would be left with some of the burden considering its installed by them and developed by someone they market/support. I don't see a Ford dealer installing any other aftermarket part (outside of accessories like bed liners and bolts ons, etc.) or tunes so....

Basically, if a failure is because of install, its Ford. If the failure is because the tune blew something, that's Roush. But its a grey area. I'm not all that concerned either way. After all, I've still got Magnuson-Moss to fall back on. 😉
 
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Oh, I'm really not going for speed here. I know, I know, I'll turn in my guy card at the next station...

Really, I'm trying to preempt any and all losses that I will see from putting larger tires and a level on in about 5K miles. Going from 275/55/20 P rated street tires to 305/55/20 E rated all terrains with an 1.5-2 inch level I think I'll lose a little.
 
xBiffx said:
Oh, I'm really not going for speed here. I know, I know, I'll turn in my guy card at the next station...

Really, I'm trying to preempt any and all losses that I will see from putting larger tires and a level on in about 5K miles. Going from 275/55/20 P rated street tires to 305/55/20 E rated all terrains with an 1.5-2 inch level I think I'll lose a little.
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You'll also lose braking performance and fuel economy, such as it already is. On the plus side, it will tip over easier. :sneaky:
 
xBiffx said:
Rofl, yeah. Fuel economy isn't much concern, its a truck after all.
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Well don't forget that fact that your brakes, for some reason, will get worse, and your truck will now suddenly tip itself over. All because of your tune, apparently.
 
also depending where you live you may have to roll out the sides to cover your wheels.

Tipping is the #1 reason why I never buy a truck as knowing me I'd tip it when having too much fun.
 
railer said:
Well don't forget that fact that your brakes, for some reason, will get worse, and your truck will now suddenly tip itself over. All because of your tune, apparently.
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He was talking about a lift/level and larger a/t tires vs smaller street oriented tires. Generally speaking larger tires will weigh more and a/t tires will have less grip than street tires (though the extra width will help)... Both will effect braking distances negatively. Raising the center of gravity will increase the likelihood of tipping (both the taller tires and lift will increase the cg). Neither are probably worth worrying about as the mods listed are very light on the grand scale of what some people do to their trucks. Neither were related to the tune.
 
I had thought that it was pretty much established that a CAI gained you nothing except a bit more noise? Has that changed?
 
Greenman said:
I had thought that it was pretty much established that a CAI gained you nothing except a bit more noise? Has that changed?
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Depends on the application. On it's own, not a big gain, but with other mods may be necessary. For example, the increased boost on my last car required a CAI or you could not feed enough volume.
 
railer said:
Well don't forget that fact that your brakes, for some reason, will get worse, and your truck will now suddenly tip itself over. All because of your tune, apparently.
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Hey genius, he said he's adding larger wheels/tires and a lift kit... which most certainly will make it brake and handle worse and raising the center of gravity will make it more prone to rolling over. This is a fact.
 
Greenman said:
I had thought that it was pretty much established that a CAI gained you nothing except a bit more noise? Has that changed?
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This one claims 50 hp and 86 ft lb torque. That gets me to 415 hp and 506 ft lb torque. Not sure what the exhaust will add.
 
JulesMaximus said:
Hey genius, he said he's adding larger wheels/tires and a lift kit... which most certainly will make it brake and handle worse and raising the center of gravity will make it more prone to rolling over. This is a fact.
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I'm just gonna level the front a couple inches but I'm sure this all still applies.
 
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