ROTK questions (plesae dont flame me if they have already been asked)

[littlegohan]

Just saw it today and have serveal questions and comments about the plot

Spoiler warning


1. Did anyone find it ridiculous that in the end, only the ground where the orcs collasped and that very very few humans died?

2. How can that woman chop the frail beast's head off in one hit? I mean seriously the skin of that thing is pretty tough and she was not holding a special sword........... And the witch king is just pathetic.

3.When sam went to rescue frodo in the tower, all the orcs were dead. Did anyone find that illogical? It was a riot but how can it lead to everyone dead?

4. How can Sam kill 4 orcs without getting scratched. I found that perposterous.

 

[Imdmn04]

It's a movie, use your imagination.

 

[azncoffeeboi]

Ok, I gots a question:

Who is this Tom Bambadil person that everybody talks about?

 

[SSP]

Originally posted by: littlegohan
Just saw it today and have serveal questions and comments about the plot

Spoiler warning


2. How can that woman chop the frail beast's head off in one hit? I mean seriously the skin of that thing is pretty tough and she was not holding a special sword........... And the witch king is just pathetic.

Actually, if you look at it close, she take 2 slashes at the beasts head. I didnt catch it the first time, but the 2nd time I saw the movie i noticed it.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: littlegohan
Just saw it today and have serveal questions and comments about the plot

Spoiler warning


1. Did anyone find it ridiculous that in the end, only the ground where the orcs collasped and that very very few humans died?

2. How can that woman chop the frail beast's head off in one hit? I mean seriously the skin of that thing is pretty
tough and she was not holding a special sword........... And the witch king is just pathetic.

3.When sam went to rescue frodo in the tower, all the orcs were dead. Did anyone find that illogical? It was a riot but how can it lead to everyone dead?

4. How can Sam kill 4 orcs without getting scratched. I found that perposterous.

1. It is a movie, don't worry about it.

2. That is what is she did in the book. I think one of the reasons Tolkien's books have been so popular is this twist on heroic fantasy where the smallest and "weakest" of the story do the greatest deeds.

3. Orc's do not get along with anyone very well and they were fighting over Frodo's mail shirt.

4. It is a movie, don't worry about it.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: azncoffeeboi
Ok, I gots a question:

Who is this Tom Bambadil person that everybody talks about?

he is in the books, he helped frodo and the others when they got lost in the forest

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: azncoffeeboi
Ok, I gots a question:

Who is this Tom Bambadil person that everybody talks about?

He is a person who had been around since the Eldar days. He saves the hobbits in the The Fellowship of the Ring.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: azncoffeeboi
Ok, I gots a question:

Who is this Tom Bambadil person that everybody talks about?

when the hobbits leave the shire and go to bree, they don ttake the main road for fear of being followed by the black riders

so they go through the Old Forest on the edge of the shire. Its a strange place and eventually some trees suck up a couple of the hobbits and they cant get out, and then about that time Tom Bombadil (a strange and unusual character indeed) happens to show up and scare the tree and the hobbits are released. He takes the hobbits back to his home for a few days to rest, and when they leave to head to bree he tells them a song to sing if theyre still near his house and need help.

they do need help, some "barrows" or ghosts catch them, someone sings, and bombadil rescues them. this is where the hobbits get thir first swords btw...then bombadil hellps them to the road and they continue to bree from there without further incident

i never liked that part of the book myself, and only read it every 2nd or 3rd time i went through the book. something about it just really annoyed me, im pretty sure it was bombadil, so as far as im concerned hes no big loss

 

[TekDemon]

Originally posted by: littlegohan
2. How can that woman chop the frail beast's head off in one hit? I mean seriously the skin of that thing is pretty tough and she was not holding a special sword........... And the witch king is just pathetic.

Man that witch king thing just made me feel that the movie was very homoerotic. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but at first it was just a few minor parts in scenes, but this scene REALLY made me rethink it.

I mean, the Witch King goes "No man can slay me" or something to that effect, then she takes her hood off, and screams "I'm NO MAN!"
Then she stabs him, and he...DEFLATES?

Now logically speaking, if no MAN can kill him, shouldn't we assume that no WOMAN could kill him either? But no, mysteriously, because she is a WOMAN she deflates him.

Go watch the scene again and don't tell me that wasn't a weird homosexual metaphor or something.

And the way they looked at that SWORD that Aragon got(the one that got reforged)...and they marveled at it's length and size...uhh yeah. Then the SWORD is the object of course that lets him control the cursed mountain men. Right.

Anyway, the homoeroticism was actually somewhat of a redeeming point since by hour 3 I was bored off my ass and interpreting everything homoerotically provided for much humor.

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

Answer for #1, #2, and #3:
It was more or less that way in the book.

4. It's a movie.

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: TekDemon

Originally posted by: littlegohan
2. How can that woman chop the frail beast's head off in one hit? I mean seriously the skin of that thing is pretty tough and she was not holding a special sword........... And the witch king is just pathetic.

Man that witch king thing just made me feel that the movie was very homoerotic. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but at first it was just a few minor parts in scenes, but this scene REALLY made me rethink it.

I mean, the Witch King goes "No man can slay me" or something to that effect, then she takes her hood off, and screams "I'm NO MAN!"
Then she stabs him, and he...DEFLATES?

Now logically speaking, if no MAN can kill him, shouldn't we assume that no WOMAN could kill him either? But no, mysteriously, because she is a WOMAN she deflates him.

Go watch the scene again and don't tell me that wasn't a weird homosexual metaphor or something.

And the way they looked at that SWORD that Aragon got(the one that got reforged)...and they marveled at it's length and size...uhh yeah. Then the SWORD is the object of course that lets him control the cursed mountain men. Right.

Anyway, the homoeroticism was actually somewhat of a redeeming point since by hour 3 I was bored off my ass and interpreting everything homoerotically provided for much humor.

you made me laugh

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: TekDemon

Originally posted by: littlegohan
2. How can that woman chop the frail beast's head off in one hit? I mean seriously the skin of that thing is pretty tough and she was not holding a special sword........... And the witch king is just pathetic.

Man that witch king thing just made me feel that the movie was very homoerotic. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but at first it was just a few minor parts in scenes, but this scene REALLY made me rethink it.

I mean, the Witch King goes "No man can slay me" or something to that effect, then she takes her hood off, and screams "I'm NO MAN!"
Then she stabs him, and he...DEFLATES?

Now logically speaking, if no MAN can kill him, shouldn't we assume that no WOMAN could kill him either? But no, mysteriously, because she is a WOMAN she deflates him.

Go watch the scene again and don't tell me that wasn't a weird homosexual metaphor or something.

And the way they looked at that SWORD that Aragon got(the one that got reforged)...and they marveled at it's length and size...uhh yeah. Then the SWORD is the object of course that lets him control the cursed mountain men. Right.

Anyway, the homoeroticism was actually somewhat of a redeeming point since by hour 3 I was bored off my ass and interpreting everything homoerotically provided for much humor.

Do you find that you do this a lot?

 

[ClueLis]

One comment on Eowyn: She was much bulkier and better buit in the books. She wasn't this frail, skinny thing that we see in the movie. The probem is that she had to be smaller than Aragorn, who is also undersized in the movies. On a size note, Boramir was supposed to be a near giant of a man, but making him too big meant making Aragorn look too small.

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: TekDemon

Originally posted by: littlegohan
2. How can that woman chop the frail beast's head off in one hit? I mean seriously the skin of that thing is pretty tough and she was not holding a special sword........... And the witch king is just pathetic.

Man that witch king thing just made me feel that the movie was very homoerotic. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but at first it was just a few minor parts in scenes, but this scene REALLY made me rethink it.

I mean, the Witch King goes "No man can slay me" or something to that effect, then she takes her hood off, and screams "I'm NO MAN!"
Then she stabs him, and he...DEFLATES?

Now logically speaking, if no MAN can kill him, shouldn't we assume that no WOMAN could kill him either? But no, mysteriously, because she is a WOMAN she deflates him.

Go watch the scene again and don't tell me that wasn't a weird homosexual metaphor or something.

And the way they looked at that SWORD that Aragon got(the one that got reforged)...and they marveled at it's length and size...uhh yeah. Then the SWORD is the object of course that lets him control the cursed mountain men. Right.

Anyway, the homoeroticism was actually somewhat of a redeeming point since by hour 3 I was bored off my ass and interpreting everything homoerotically provided for much humor.

sounds like your rather obsessed with homoeroticism

 

[badmouse]

Calm down, you silly people. Is this the first movie you've ever seen with guys using swords? Or guys with long pointy things shooting something - I mean weapons, of course, the bigger the better. Or guys hugging each other after they've massively killed a zillion of the enemy. Or the good guy still standing without a scratch after exterminating a huge pile of dead bad guys.

If you're going to let that bother you in LOTR, then does it bother you in the other action movies?

 

[waylman]

Just saw it today and have serveal questions and comments about the plot

there's fiction and non-fiction. take a wild guess which one LOTR falls under.

 

[littlegohan]

Originally posted by: waylman

Just saw it today and have serveal questions and comments about the plot

there's fiction and non-fiction. take a wild guess which one LOTR falls under.

A fiction novel still has to make sense.

Even though is not based on a real incident, does that means that it can be illogical?

Can anyone please tell me more about why only the ground under the orcs collasped whiles the humans "just so happen" to be standing in a safe zone? How does the book explain it?

 

[Tom]

I haven't read the book, but first ask yourself, why does the ground collapse at all ?

Perhaps it is the Earth itself, being free at last from the control that Sauron held over those lands, punishing those who fought for him.

Wouldn't make any sense to swallow up the guys that were fighting to free you, would it ?

Remember, this is a mythological tale, like the trees, the Earth has some say in the turn of events, possibly.

 

[Murphyrulez]

How does a giant eyeball hanging between 2 spires have a life of it's own, moving and watching things? How do the Ents appear to walk so slowly, but all get to Isengard in like 2 hours? How does Aragorn happen to see the tiny Elven brooch buried in the mud? How does Sam remove the ring from Frodo's neck without tearing the spidersilk? How does the ring burning in the fire immediately destroy the badguy and all his property??

It's a movie. Stuff happens, you watch it, you go home. Wow. Who woulda thunk it.