Roswell UFO was really spy ship from russia with genetically engineered pilots

[brainhulk]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20110518/od_yblog_upshot/new-book-says-ussr-behind-roswell-ufo

According to Annie Jacobsen, the reporter who authored "Area 51," the spaceship was actually a Soviet spy plane that came down during a storm. Jacobsen claims it was filled with bizarre, genetically engineered child-sized pilots. Then-Soviet leader Joseph Stalin was hoping, Jacobsen alleges, that the new cause widespread panic in the U.S.

And those ET-looking aviators? They were scientific experiments created by the "Angel of Death," Nazi doctor Josef Mengele, for the USSR after the war. The flight was piloted remotely, according to accounts in the book, and was filled with a crew of "alien-like children."

According to Jacobsen's source, a retired engineer who was put on the project in 1978, the look of the human experiments could explain the alien conspiracy theories: "They were grotesquely deformed, but each in the same manner as the others. They had unusually large heads and abnormally shaped oversize eyes."

creepy

 

[zerocool84]

It never ends.

 

[khon]

The DNA structure wasn't discovered until 1953, yet the Russian had genetically engineered pilots in time for the Roswell crash in 1947 ?

Somehow that doesn't seem very likely.

 

[Bateluer]

The DNA structure wasn't discovered until 1953, yet the Russian had genetically engineered pilots in time for the Roswell crash in 1947 ?

Somehow that doesn't seem very likely.

But they were experimenting with nuclear fission? Don't need to know what DNA is to royally screw with it.

 

[Printer Bandit]

disinfo.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

And did Mengele do that work for the USSR while in US captivity, or while living incognito in Germany after that, before he fled to South-America?

I guess the logical explanation is that either Stalin was a time traveller, or an all-knowing god.

 

[WT]

The truth is out there

 

[oynaz]

Well, that explains my cow, at least.

 

[Wyndru]

I'm not understanding this. Were they just deformed kids put in the plane to cause confusion, or were they actually genetically engineered? The first paragraph states the latter, yet the 2nd and 3rd just say "alien-like" and "grotesquely deformed".

 

[Meghan54]

I'm not understanding this. Were they just deformed kids put in the plane to cause confusion, or were they actually genetically engineered? The first paragraph states the latter, yet the 2nd and 3rd just say "alien-like" and "grotesquely deformed".

You know how it is.....when you're promoting a conspiracy theory, you have to include every angle, just to see what parts resonate with the tin foil hat crowd. Once you find that out, you run with that part.

To paraphrase the old saying, throw lotsa shit at the wall and see what sticks.

 

[dawp]

The DNA structure wasn't discovered until 1953, yet the Russian had genetically engineered pilots in time for the Roswell crash in 1947 ?

Somehow that doesn't seem very likely.

animal husbandry? selective breeding? that's gotta be it. the russians bred a race of dwarfs to pilot the "ships"

 

[Perknose]

Do you think this outrageous claim will help her get tons of free publicity for her book?

I dunno, but I think this outrageous claim will help her get tons of free publicity for her book, not that she inserted this outrageous claim into her book in order to get free publicity or anything like that, because that would be . . . outrageous.

 

[Perknose]

Hmmmmm, while this one claim is "out there", it seems that the book as a whole is solid and the author well respected. The overall topic of Area 51 is fascinating. The most informative article on this new book is here.

It makes for a good read.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20110518/od_yblog_upshot/new-book-says-ussr-behind-roswell-ufo



creepy

I will debunk this one right now. From the Wikipedia article:

Mengele used Auschwitz as an opportunity to continue his research on heredity, using inmates for human experimentation. He was particularly interested in identical twins; they would be selected and placed in special barracks. He also recruited Berthold Epstein, a Jewish pediatrician. As a doctor, Epstein proposed to Mengele a study into treatments of the disease called noma that was noted for particularly affecting children from the camp.[13]
While the exact cause of noma remains uncertain, it is now known that it has a higher occurrence in children suffering from malnutrition and a lower immune system response. Many develop the disease shortly after contracting another illness such as measles or tuberculosis.[14]
Mengele took an interest in physical abnormalities discovered among the arrivals at the concentration camp. These included dwarfs, notably the Ovitz family - the children of a Romanian artist, of whom seven of the ten members were dwarfs. Prior to their deportation, they toured in Eastern Europe as the Lilliput Troupe. Mengele often called them "my dwarf family"; to him they seemed to be the perfect expression of "the abnorm".[citation needed]
Mengele's experiments also included attempts to change eye colour by injecting chemicals into children's eyes, various amputations of limbs, and other surgeries. Rena Gelissen's account of her time in Auschwitz details certain experiments performed on female prisoners around October 1943. Mengele would experiment on the chosen girls, performing sterilization and shock treatments. Most of the victims died, because of either the experiments or later infections.

"Once Mengele's assistant rounded up 14 pairs of Roma twins during the night. Mengele placed them on his polished marble dissection table and put them to sleep. He then injected chloroform into their hearts, killing them instantly. Mengele then began dissecting and meticulously noting each piece of the twins' bodies."[11]
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At Auschwitz, Mengele did a number of twin studies. After the experiment was over, these twins were usually killed and their bodies dissected. He supervised an operation by which two Romani children were sewn together to create conjoined twins; the hands of the children became badly infected where the veins had been resected; this also caused gangrene.[11]
The subjects of Mengele's research were better fed and housed than ordinary prisoners and were, for the time being, safe from the gas chambers, although many experiments resulted in more painful deaths.[15] When visiting his child subjects, he introduced himself as "Uncle Mengele" and offered them sweets. Some survivors remember that despite his grim acts, he was also called "Mengele the protector".[16]
The book Children of the Flames, by Lucette Matalon Lagnado and Shiela Cohn Dekel, chronicles Mengele's medical experimental activities on approximately 3,000 twins who passed through the Auschwitz death camp during World War II until its liberation at the end of the war. Only 100 pairs of twins survived;[17] 60 years later, they came forward about the special privileges they were given in Auschwitz owing to Mengele's interest in twins, and how as a result they have suffered, as the children who survived his medical experiments and injections.[11]
Mengele also sought out pregnant women, on whom he would perform vivisections before sending them to the gas chambers.[18]
Auschwitz prisoner Alex Dekel has said: "I have never accepted the fact that Mengele himself believed he was doing serious work – not from the slipshod way he went about it. He was only exercising his power. Mengele ran a butcher shop – major surgeries were performed without anaesthesia. Once, I witnessed a stomach operation – Mengele was removing pieces from the stomach, but without any anaesthetic. Another time, it was a heart that was removed, again without anaesthesia. It was horrifying. Mengele was a doctor who became mad because of the power he was given. Nobody ever questioned him – why did this one die? Why did that one perish? The patients did not count. He professed to do what he did in the name of science, but it was a madness on his part."

The last quote is the most pertinent.

 

[Rudee]

The Author is an idiot for believing one single crack pot's story and writing a book about it. But I would say the true idiots are those who would pay money to buy the book.

 

[Fritzo]

The DNA structure wasn't discovered until 1953, yet the Russian had genetically engineered pilots in time for the Roswell crash in 1947 ?

Somehow that doesn't seem very likely.

I was going to say, they didn't know much about genetics at that time, much less knew how to manipulate genes. Stupid story is stupid.

 

[GrumpyMan]

"Aluminum/Beanie Hard Hat Area" required to be on at all times. Implausible theories require Haz-mat suits to be worn also. Please proceed.

 

[bignateyk]

I will debunk this one right now. From the Wikipedia article:



The last quote is the most pertinent.

Jesus Christ what a sick bastard. Every time I read something about him it makes my blood boil.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

I was going to say, they didn't know much about genetics at that time, much less knew how to manipulate genes. Stupid story is stupid.

We've known about genetics and inheritance since Mendel. We didn't know what carried the information until a someone dropped some windowpane and worked it out.

Menegele didn't know shit. Nonbody could have done this in the middle of the last century. Maybe in ten years.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Jesus Christ what a sick bastard. Every time I read something about him it makes my blood boil.

I suggest you watch the documentary, Aushwitz. It's far worse than you ever imagined.

 

[mcurphy]

I suggest you watch the documentary, Aushwitz. It's far worse than you ever imagined.

I see it is available on Netflix streaming. I'll have to check this out when I have some free time.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

I see it is available on Netflix streaming. I'll have to check this out when I have some free time.

That's where I found it. It's six one hour segments. I thought I would watch part of one at about 5:30PM after I got home from work on a Friday, while doing odd chores and getting ready to go to my weekly poker game at 7:00PM. Nothing got cleaned, and I was still in my work clothes at midnight, and I missed out on my weekly $200 - $1500 income supplement. That is how riveted I was. When I woke up on Saturday with snow to shovel and things to do, I watched all six hours of it again. Then I cried.

 

[CptObvious]

Terry Gross interviewed the author on Fresh Air a couple days ago. It was pretty interesting:

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/17/136356848/area-51-uncensored-was-it-ufos-or-the-ussr

 

[Lifted]

This idiot was on The Daily Show last night. She ended her interview with the shocking revelation of "Area 51 is where they invented drones."

Yes people, you heard it here. Remote controlled aircraft were invented in Area 51.

This lady is so full of shit, yet she will probably make a fortune selling this book to the rest of the idiots out there.

 

[dwell]

A conspiracy that another conspiracy was actually a conspiracy