Ross Perot: America could be taken over...

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  1. Engineer

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    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/america-could-taken-over-warns-ross-perot-152428497.html

    The guy that threw out the "giant sucking sound" (and was right) now sounds off again....and with the collapse of the middle class, propped up by debt and tax cuts (to the tune of negative tax returns), we find that the foundation is ready to collapse bringing down the entire building. And he is right, neither candidate (or party for that matter) has a clue as to what is going on or how to fix it.

    Of course, getting rid of the giant sucking sound (both South and to the EAST (China, etc)) would go a LONG way to helping cure what ails the US (and us).
     
  2. Texashiker

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    We should have elected Ross Perot 20 years ago.

    The man did not become a billionaire by being stupid.
     
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  4. Engineer

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    Time to take action while the US still has leverage...we are having an economic war waged upon us and we are just sitting by and taking it...
     
  6. AyashiKaibutsu

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    Perot 2016? >.> <.< For the record, I liked him when I was 9.
     
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    I liked him until I took a course on macroeconomics.
     
  8. yllus

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    Take us over? What does that even mean? Are the Chinese going to buy up Exxon Mobil, Walmart and General Motors, then ship tens of thousands of workers over to do their jobs? The plants and other assets will still exist in North America no matter the buyer.

    Not to mention that a North American company isn't called North American strictly because it was technically registered on this continent or because its buildings are located in New York, Detroit or Chicago. It's also termed so because the modern infrastructure, the high education of the population that makes up its workers, and the socioeconomic conditions of the land. Those can't be taken over.

    The Japanese took over Columbia Pictures in 1989. How many Americans do they employ? A hint: It's a non-zero number.
     
  9. Engineer

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    Who is to say the US won't become a slave labor land to some other "super power" in the future? I suppose that we can just say "forget it...we're not paying the debt back". I understand what you're saying yllus but I think he has a point (maybe not as big as he may suggest) but to simply dismiss it is going the same dismissal of his words earlier and that dismissal is a big reason we are where we are now.
     
  10. Texashiker

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    Have you been keeping up to date on our infrastructure? We can not even keep our bridges updated, how are we supposed to fight a war with a major world power?

    How many power plants have been built in the past 25 years? Not enough to stop rolling blackouts in peak summer months. If we can not even keep the lights on, how are we supposed to fight a war?

    How many steel factories have been closed over the past 30 years?

    Do we have the capability to make enough steel to build ships?

    How many shipyards have been closed in the 1980s? Dozens. Shipyards all along the gulf coast have been closed and demolished over the past 30 years.

    We do not even have enough skilled people that could be put to work building tanks, ships, trucks, guns, planes,,,, if we needed them. Most of todays young people have no idea what its like to work with their hands.
     
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    US Navy can, no bluster, take on all the world's navies combined. I am really not concerned about any take overs happening.
     
  12. Engineer

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    We had to buy bullets from Europe during the Iraq war because we ran out (or low). Not a good thing.
     
  13. Engineer

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    I don't think it's the military kind of takeover.
     
  14. Texashiker

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    You heard about china breaking into the white house computers? The computers that had nuclear launch codes stored on them.

    Who said we had to be attacked from the outside? With the launch codes, could china launch our own missiles on us?

    Nobody said this had to be a conventional war, what about nuclear or biological?
     
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    Source? I've been able to buy surplus ammo from Federal for YEARS now. We have no shortage.
     
  16. Texashiker

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    Was there a shortage in 1990 and 1991?
     
  17. Engineer

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    Can't find the original document but I did find a Freerepublic (taboo to many here) post with the contents. It was from 2005 and it was from Taiwan instead of Europe (my memory fails me). As to whether it's true or not, I do not know. I do remember reading it on mainstream media when it first came out though.

     
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    an unnamed foreign entity, eh? usually anything unnamed means Israle. why didn't he just say it? one only needs to look at Congress to know this. buttkissers that have sold America out for kissing butt
     
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    This^

    Not to mention the fact that the U.S. nuclear triad is a boss!
     
  20. Engineer

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    I don't think you guys are reading Perot's comment right. Don't think it's about military.
     
  21. Texashiker

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    Most people can not think outside the box,

    http://www.thechinatimes.com/online/2012/09/5141.html

    We can not even keep our bridges in working order, or our national debt in check, at the same time China plans on becoming a world technological leader.

    Who needs weapons when china can continue sucking American jobs until our economy collapses.

    That sucking sound Perot talked about 20 years ago will one day cause the collapse of America. If free trade does not cause the collapse of America, it will contribute a great deal.
     
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    Free trade isn't free....nor is it FAIR at all. Just finished a machine for China (yes, we actually made something at my company to be shipped to China). China is going to add a 18% tax on the machine just to let it into the country. Try doing that in the US to Chinese made goods/machines/etc. and see if we don't end up in front of the WTO for unfair trade practices.
     
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    That's why we use standard NATO rounds in all our weapons. :rolleyes:



    Besides, even in WWII when we were pumping out hundreds of naval ships and thousands of tanks and thousands of planes that all didn't just happen overnight. It takes some time to ramp that kind of production up.

    To think we need to maintain that level of production capability is why we're going bankrupt.
     
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    There was never anything to be taken over. Most parts of America was always for sale or rent to the highest bidder. It's a beautiful system that makes it a bad business decision to attack or harm it no matter your nationality. You can hold onto the idealistic "America" though if it help you sleep at night.
     
  25. Texashiker

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    What a lot of people do not understand, the factories that were used to "crank up production" have been demolished over the past 30 years.

    At least two shipyards closed in southeast Texas during the 1980s. All that is there now is an empty field.

    If you want an example, take a look at this chart

    http://shipbuildinghistory.com/today/statistics/deliver1.htm

    Merchant ships, 1977, 25 delivered
    Merchant ships, 1988, 0 delivered

    During the 1980s, the ship building industry was wiped out. The people were laid off, the shipyards were demolished, the trained people that used to build ships 30 years ago are now retiring and dying.
     
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