Rosie O'Donnell's Latest Bout of Stupidity

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sixone

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Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Anybody that believes in 9/11 conspiracies is an idiot. Nuff said. Amazing how Bush can supposedly manage this conspiracy, and keep the hundreds, or even thousands of people involved quiet, yet not prevent other leaks from his administration that have caused plenty of damage to his image.

And be completely retarded at the same time. :roll:
 

torpid

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I don't get it. Suppose that the building did get demolished intentionally by its owner. So what? How is that a government conspiracy of any sort? The article quoted only implies insurance fraud, not government conspiracy.
 

yuppiejr

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Bottom line, I don't think Rossie is going to sway anyone who isn't already wearing a tin-foil hat...

People who want to believe in a 9-11 conspiracy will do so with or without Rossie and will interpret the facts to further entrench their beliefs or rally to the flag of visible celebrities who lend any shade of credibility to their cause. It's a sad truth in modern political discussion that many people prefer to force facts to fit their agenda rather than looking critically at the facts to form intelligent conclusions.
 

ElFenix

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i like how people who do their own independent investigations, actually ask experts in the field their thoughts on the subject, etc., are said to be buying into government lies by the nutters here.


so, what's more believable: engineers, demo experts, etc., saying that the buildings were all brought down by the fires and damage done to them as a result of two large jetliners impacting WTC 1 and 2; or that the government installed thousands of pounds of explosives with no one noticing, that probably hundreds if not thousands of people were involved in carrying out this action, that not a one of them has come forward, and that all this was done in the 8 months between when bush took office and september 11?
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: crt1530
Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: BigJelly
Originally posted by: noto12ious
<3 Rosie. 9/11 Truth in your faces :)

In fact, the USA has been guilty of conspiring against the public in the past. This is no secret.

Operation Northwoods: Proof of US. Government conspiracy.

this from a guy that thinks Bush Sr. was behind JFK's assination?

Too bad you can't fix stupid.


Bush Sr. has been recorded by the FBI (as indicated by a FBI memo) as saying he knew JFK would be assassinated. Look it up :)

Edit: What? You don't dare comment on Operation Northwoods? Why? Because it proves our government has conspired in the past? :)

Edit 2: The bullet hole through the windshield of JFK's limo proves the Warren Commission lied about the number of bullets. Cover-up :)

Congratulations! You are the first inductee in my ATOT buddy list!

Congratulations on not being able to respond to any of my arguments. GG!

Some people don't respond to arguments made by people in a padded cell.

 

OutHouse

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Jun 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Citrix
F*ck Rosi....

the little tirade she had about the brit sailors and how Iran is justified in taking them just really pissed me off. Mainly because nobody covered it, now if Ann Culter said something like that she would have been run out of the country.
i'm having deja vous . ;)

its even better with a little Chianti. :wine:
 

Vic

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It's just silly is what it is. Believe it or not, nutters, but not everything is politicized.

Consider: a 757 jetliner weighing 250,000 pounds, carrying more than 69,000 pounds of kerosene (for 1,282,050,000 BTU's heating value... yes, 1.2 billion BTU's), impacts a quarter-mile high skyscraper at 625 miles per hour, causing said building to eventually weaken and collapse or.... a grand government conspiracy involving hundreds of conspirators secretly carrying out the most elaborate building demolition job ever?

Hmmm.... clearly accepting the obvious scientific facts involved is the result of one's political beliefs (even though I hate GW).

:roll:
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

1) It is logical that the explosion would be heard first from below as the sound of the plane impacting on the steel support structure of the building travels faster through steel than it does through the air. What the heard and felt was the entire structure (anchored just below their feet) ringing like a church bell.

2) If explosives were used, how were they hidden. If you know *anything* about demolition you know that a large amount are required, even when shaped charges are used. Furthermore, wiring must be strung between each charge.

I was thinking the same thing. At a good distance from the impact, you'd definitely experience the difference between the speed of sound in air vs. the speed of the shock through the steel structure. Since he was standing, he'd feel it through his feet and it would seem as if the blast happened below.


Did you notice:) how Mr. Smiley face nutjob hasn't :) responded?

noto12ious, are you busy:) searching for another looney conspiracy :) theory to back your conspiracy theory?:)
 
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Consider: a 757 jetliner weighing 250,000 pounds, carrying more than 69,000 pounds of kerosene (for 1,282,050,000 BTU's heating value... yes, 1.2 billion BTU's), impacts a quarter-mile high skyscraper at 625 miles per hour, causing said building to eventually weaken and collapse or.... a grand government conspiracy involving hundreds of conspirators secretly carrying out the most elaborate building demolition job ever?

Occam's_Razor
"All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the best one."

 
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Plus... Why would the Government need to bring the towers down anyway?? Wouldnt crashing the planes into the buildings create enough outrage if this was indeed an elaborate plot to go to war?

Wouldnt the complexity of adding the explosives etc just involve more people and increase the chances the cover up would fail?

It just does not make sense...accept it for what it is. A plane crash that brought down a building. You attempts to make it more complicated are just a feeble attempt at making the US seem in control of the situation which makes you more comfortable. The idea that a few nuts could do this threatens you...

These conspiracies actually put the US back in control of the situation which I think some people need for some reason...
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Amused
So... tell us which of the videos you believe.

It was obvious from Rosie's statements that she was referring to Loose Change. A video destroyed by many different sources including popular mechanics. Hell, I didn't even need someone to tell me it was full of sh!t. My BS detector went off constantly during it.

Some videos make thousands of claims, I don't believe any video I've seen 100% so far, but that's not to say I don't see what their getting at. Loose Change is a bad 9/11 video that makes some of the more outlandish claims, but because of its popularity it promotes others to "take a look" at the facts, which is what I think Rosie is doing and what Charlie Sheen and Sharon Stone have done.

Maybe it's a PR thing, maybe it's not.. but she's taking a bold stance and putting (what popularity she has left) on the line, I'm surprised she hasn't been booted off the show yet, but 30 million viewers must make the broadcast company higher-ups happy regardless of the issue.
Rosie O'Donnell, Charlie Sheen and Sharon Stone?! Are you effin kidding me? Are you serious, seriously? Can you tell me in a straight face that you have more confidence in this trio than the multitude of government AND non-government entities that have shown these conspiracy theories are hohwash? In that same straight face can you tell me that you have more confidence in this trio than mothereffin' common sense? If so, excuse me while I puke.
Dude, Charlie Sheen's father played the President on TV. The TV, man! For years! He's connected.

I've always appreciated how conspiracy theories regard the government, which is absolutely the most bumbling, inefficient collection of idiots who live next door we'll ever see assembled, as this nefariously evil and intelligent organization. Clearly no conspiracy nut has ever taken a civil service exam. I could go in wasted and still pass the damn things.
 

Queasy

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Rosie: The fact that people disagree with me means our democracy is unraveled! (Paraphrase)

:roll:
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You quoted me out of context. This is what I posted
sometimes she's right and sometimes she is as wrong as you can be as she is in this case.
I also didn't say she was contributing anything by making these calims, I just said that you were giving yourself too much credit by saying that you contributed more by going to college.

If you want present an argument that she is being an idiot by making these claims that argument would be more compelling if you avoided making an idiot out of yourself.[/quote]

It does not seem like I quoted you out of context. My interpretation is that you were saying that everyone is wrong sometimes.

While you did not say that she was contributing anything, it was implied by your statement.


Oh yeah, stop being a dick.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: mateo
Plus... Why would the Government need to bring the towers down anyway?? Wouldnt crashing the planes into the buildings create enough outrage if this was indeed an elaborate plot to go to war?

Wouldnt the complexity of adding the explosives etc just involve more people and increase the chances the cover up would fail?

It just does not make sense...accept it for what it is. A plane crash that brought down a building. You attempts to make it more complicated are just a feeble attempt at making the US seem in control of the situation which makes you more comfortable. The idea that a few nuts could do this threatens you...

These conspiracies actually put the US back in control of the situation which I think some people need for some reason...

Exactly. The miracle is that the buildings didn't collapse on impact. And yes, it's similar to the JFK conspiracies. People just don't want to believe that a lone madman could so easily kill a popular president. It's just too threatening to all the things they take for granted. Surely the world can't be that dangerous a place. Bad news, it is.

And... in the irony I mentioned earlier, the REAL government conspiracy is that government caters to that mindset. After all, the very reason that people institute governments is for collective safety. As such, government realizes that it is much better for it if the people perceive it as evil and nefarious rather than incompetent. Far better that the people think the CIA killed JFK rather than a single madman acting alone. Far better that the people think the government is covering up "the truth" about UFO's rather than the real truth that government knows nothing about them (and conveniently, government also used this mindset to cover up its top secret air defense projects). And far better that the people suspect that the government secretly brought down the WTC's rather than they lack confidence in the government's ability to protect 3,000 American citizens on American soil from attacks by a small group of religious madmen half-way around the world.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You quoted me out of context. This is what I posted
sometimes she's right and sometimes she is as wrong as you can be as she is in this case.
I also didn't say she was contributing anything by making these calims, I just said that you were giving yourself too much credit by saying that you contributed more by going to college.

If you want present an argument that she is being an idiot by making these claims that argument would be more compelling if you avoided making an idiot out of yourself.

It does not seem like I quoted you out of context. My interpretation is that you were saying that everyone is wrong sometimes.

While you did not say that she was contributing anything, it was implied by your [/quote]Well she probably has contributed more to society than you (and I) have. Her problem is that she's prone to saying outrageous BS that detracts from her contributions.



Oh yeah, stop being a dick.
OK, if you stop quoting me out context to make it look as if I had supported her statement regarding the conspiracy.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Well she probably has contributed more to society than you (and I) have. Her problem is that she's prone to saying outrageous BS that detracts from her contributions.

OK, if you stop quoting me out context to make it look as if I had supported her statement regarding the conspiracy.

You are misinterpreting what I states. I quoted you to expand on what you said. I was saying that yes, people can be wrong, but that in this case her being wrong was not an innocent mistake.

While she has contributed to society (various charities), he work has also promoted ignorance in this country, which is something that is hard to put a value on. Does making hundreds of thousands of people dumber and more ignorant outweigh her financial contribution? I think so.
 

thraashman

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Damn, how is it that this woman keeps reminding the country of how much of a loony toon she is. I mean, damn, she doesn't even give pause between wacko remarks.

And before anyone tries to call her a liberal media figure or tries to say her views are representative of the liberal thought process, I want to official disavow any liberal linkage to this woman. I'll make a deal, we don't have to claim Rosie and conservatives don't have to claim Pat Robertson, ok? I think that's a fair deal. The scary thought is I'm not sure which of those two wingnuts more people listen to and believe. But in both cases I'm sure it's far too many.
 

AMDZen

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Apr 15, 2004
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Has Rosie ever made a single statement that wasn't retarded?

I always figured the only reason people kept her around at all was to make ugly people hope to someday make it in show biz. "Yea ugly people can get a break too, look at Rosie O'FatandUglyAss - she made it."
 

deepinya

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Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Sometimes Rosie goes off the deep end but she's most often quite entertaining. In that same episode we learned that she has great lesbian sex and lost her virginity at 20. :D

thanks for that mental picture, I hate you
 

thraashman

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Originally posted by: deepinya
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Sometimes Rosie goes off the deep end but she's most often quite entertaining. In that same episode we learned that she has great lesbian sex and lost her virginity at 20. :D

thanks for that mental picture, I hate you

I second that statement!
 

randumb

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She's seriously deluded if she thinks any physics professor at Harvard would support a WTC7 conspiracy.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Well she probably has contributed more to society than you (and I) have. Her problem is that she's prone to saying outrageous BS that detracts from her contributions.

OK, if you stop quoting me out context to make it look as if I had supported her statement regarding the conspiracy.

You are misinterpreting what I states. I quoted you to expand on what you said. I was saying that yes, people can be wrong, but that in this case her being wrong was not an innocent mistake.
I guess I did misinterpret what you said. In fact when I read it again I still misinterpret it but I'll take you at your word.

While she has contributed to society (various charities), he work has also promoted ignorance in this country, which is something that is hard to put a value on. Does making hundreds of thousands of people dumber and more ignorant outweigh her financial contribution? I think so.
I seriously doubt she has enough influence to make a significant negative impact. Seems a lot of you people give her more credit than she deserves as far as being influential.
 

torpid

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JFK conspiracies have a lot more merit than 9/11 ones, and even those are kind of a bit nutty. I do think there is a strong possibility that there were more people involved in the assassination of MLK jr, though. Or at least complicit after the fact. That one seems a little too weird for me.