Rosewill Challenger mini review

Zargon

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Meant to port this over from [H] but lost track of it. There was active discussion on the Challenger going on there when I did this a few weeks ago so I posted it there first

a few pics:

IMG_3983 by dougie81, on Flickr


IMG_3986 by dougie81, on Flickr


IMG_3990 by dougie81, on Flickr

There is not quite as much room as this pic implies. This MSI Z68 board is annoyingly thinner than it should be, its not full ATX. You can see to the right where the ATX Standoffs go. Its my current only gripe about the board. They still managed 4 usb headers, 6 sata ports, and 4 sysfan headers, but made it too small


IMG_4006 by dougie81, on Flickr

It gives ample room for swapping out heatsinks, which is more than I can say for the RV02 I built

IMG_4007 by dougie81, on Flickr




PROS:
sleek clean design
front panel pulls off pretty easy
foam behind mesh 5.25 bay covers
black screws included
rubber gasket for PSU mounting built into the case
fits resoanbly sized tower heatsinks, spec'd size of the Gaia is 158mm and it just barely fits(see next post)
decent amount of cable management slots in mobo tray(no rubber grommets on them though)


CONS:
no vibration reducer on the fans(but this is expected based on the price)
no way to wire front panel to the side of the case easily, you cant put an optical in the slot(even though it has the tool-less bay on top) due to the front panel being there, so there is room for a decent cable route
front and top fans(140mm)have 4pin molex. not 3 pin fan headers and no adapters were included.
no cable routing hole in the upper left corner behind top 140 fan. This is a common place for 4 and 8 pin motherboard connectors. it not being there can make clean cabling a real PITA
The bay covers are a royal PITA to remove, I lightly bent the one I did remove, but it bent back without leaving a noticable mark atleast
Not much room on the backside, have to be careful/precise when running cables

Oddities:
no power led?


Side Notes:
For $10 more there is a USB3.0 version
The rail mounts for the 3.5" bays do have small rubber washers, but they aren't very substantial
Max GPU length 11 3/8"
Fans, not bad. more than a whoosh, they do make some noise, but not as bad as I feared they might. it idles louder than my RV02 with the tri 180's on low and 2 800 rpm slipstreams, but its a little quieter than the 180's on high

cpu idle is about 40C




Build specs:
MSI Z68A-GD43B3
i5 2500K paired with a Xigmatek Gaia SD1283
2x4gb GSkill Sniper DDR3 1333
XFX 6870 twin fan design(HD-687A-ZD)
Antec Neo Eco 620w
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
He can add the ssd for caching later. And hopefully when southern islands hits he can add another 6870 on the cheap
 
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Zargon

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I was a little nervous when fitting this puppy, but she slid right in and the slid closed just fine. you obviously won't be using the top 120mm side fan mount though


IMAG0118 (1920 x 1148) by dougie81, on Flickr

thats my favorite part by far. I spent a week on my RV-02 getting it sorted, still not perfect but I dont have to the tools to shorten cables etc yet, mayube Ill get myself some for xmas.

next up: sliding the ram, bluray, HDD and PSU in, then the wiring really begins :)

just noticed another nice little feature they snuck in

the PSU backplate has a rubber gasket on it already! very nice, saves me from making my own!


IMG_4018 by dougie81, on Flickr

alright more pics and some more work done.

here is the simple and effective tooless 5.25 design:


IMG_4013 by dougie81, on Flickr


IMG_4014 by dougie81, on Flickr

here is where I started at tonight:

IMG_4017 by dougie81, on Flickr

decent amount of room on the backside behind the 3.5 cage

IMG_4012 by dougie81, on Flickr

still pretty empty, xfire wouldnt make it that busy, but sadly the neo eco lacks a second set of PCI-E cables, so you have go the molex converter route.

IMG_4028 by dougie81, on Flickr

as you can see, its time to start the real cable management. a *very* small amount is done, and man do I hate what the lack of the hole for the 4pin in the upper left makes me do get the wire there.
 
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dawp

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ya know you can drop those flickr tags and just post the images without hyperlinks back to flickr.

like this:
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dawp

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it isn't. I use flickr myself and I don't like to link back to my account there when I post pics. just wasn't sure if you new that.
 

Zargon

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yeah chalk it up to laziness :p

I was in a time crunch when I did the build thread initially
 

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Any further observations comments?
I like to or at least I am learning to mod. I like to remove the expansion slot screws and replace with thumb screws, Also like to use one thumb screw on opposite side of Optical Drive. Expandable sleeving organizes front panel leads and improves appearance.
I change out the fans but a cheap fan controller would do as well. U-channel is available from several modding sites for wire pass thrus.
Changed "feet" for larger/taller softer ones. Added side fan.

Big Pluses, easy build but wire management a challenge but not bad. With a little care for the front panel easy to lift and carry, convenient size, reasonable fit for ATX motherboards, good cooling.
Unlike some cheap cases changes haven't stripped any holes yet.
Benifits from modular power supplies, lol, which case doesn't.
 

MRGOOCH

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There is no removable air filterin the front. How are are you cleaning it?
 
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Zargon

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Any further observations comments?
I like to or at least I am learning to mod. I like to remove the expansion slot screws and replace with thumb screws, Also like to use one thumb screw on opposite side of Optical Drive. Expandable sleeving organizes front panel leads and improves appearance.
I change out the fans but a cheap fan controller would do as well. U-channel is available from several modding sites for wire pass thrus.
Changed "feet" for larger/taller softer ones. Added side fan.

Big Pluses, easy build but wire management a challenge but not bad. With a little care for the front panel easy to lift and carry, convenient size, reasonable fit for ATX motherboards, good cooling.
Unlike some cheap cases changes haven't stripped any holes yet.
Benifits from modular power supplies, lol, which case doesn't.

So sorry I missed this. My brother loves it.

sent from my thunderbolt via tapatalk
 

Zargon

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What HSF did you show in the photo?

Xigmatek gaia. Not sure about the filter

The 4pin is wired I think to the psu straight on if mean the top fan

sent from my thunderbolt via tapatalk
 
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MRGOOCH

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How did you wire the 4 pin power connector in the upper left corner?

I am speaking of the 8 pin ATX power cable that goes to the MB in the top left corner. It is always a problem reaching and hiding it.