roomates == satan?

markuskidd

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Need some opinions on this...

This semester, three other guys and I decided that we didn't want to continue in the dorms and got an apartment together. I've known one of these guys since I was 13, I've been hanging out with another throughout high school and we roomed together last year on campus, and the third was an acquintance of mine in high school and is friends with the other two. The guy I roomed with last year I am very comfortable with -- he's pretty much a cool guy all around. The other two have a different outlook than I do so we all agreed it would be important to talk some things through before we actually signed a lease.
I personally am not a wild partier. By wild party I mean a group of people cranking up the stereo, getting sick-drunk with the beer bong, and letting people that no one really knows join in on the fun. We all made sure everyone was committed to being college students first, but these two in particular (with support from my former roomate) also wanted to make sure everyone was cool with some wild partying. I figured that it is cool to let loose once in a while and that maybe I would acquire a taste for a bit of partying. We talked it through and we thought that one big party a month seemed fair.
Within a couple of months, our house/apartment had acquired a reputation as a place where there were always parties. I have classes 6 days a week and I also have been working about a 60-hour week up until November. I was also in a long-term relationship at the time, so a lot of weekends I spent over at my girlfriend's apartment just to get out of the way. One thing that always made me particularly worried was that for a while our apartment became a place where high school students from the school we went to could come and get drunk freely.

Times change, my work schedule is still full-time, but it's cut back a bit and I'm no longer in my relationship. Meanwhile things here are just as wild as ever. Though I have made half-hearted attempts to bring up my complaints about the atmosphere in my apartment on weekends, this past week was the first time I really laid out my frustration that the agreement we made before we moved in is not being fallowed. I don't think it's had any effect. Of the other three, only my roomate is somewhat on my side; he enjoys the parties but he at least seems to have a soul and realizes that I'm being screwed. I have to get up early on Saturday mornings to go to class -- a fact that the roomates are familiar with -- and the parties are LOUD here often until 4 or 5 AM. What the hell can I do about this?
 

Frosty3799

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where these agreements written out and signed down along with the lease? or was it just a 'hand shake' agreement?
 

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well you can move bust thats always shitty. id just say you should talk to them all without yelling or whatnot just go over the ground rules. make a compromise. if you pissed about givin away free beer start chargin people for beers. 1$ a cup usaly works well and just work teh door and turn peopel away.

hell you could always call the cops on them when they are havin a party. just call from somewhere else and they will get busted for givin alachol to minors and what not. that will stop people from commin and stop them from havin them also

 

markuskidd

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No, it was all just something we sat down and talked about beforehand. What they're saying now is something like this: "Well, it's our first time where we really have our own place. We thought about once a month seemed reasonable, but now that we're living here that just isn't the truth. I can imagine what would happen if I decided that, though the agreed-upon rent payment seemed reasonable beforehand, I don't think it's fair anymore.

Of course, as you're implying, it's not in writing so it's not quite the same as the lease. I guess what I'm looking for is roomate negotiation strategies that have proven effective in the past? I mean, after a certain point I can really start being an ass here at the apartment, but I'd like to at least have a game plan.

... It's 3:16, and small metal fixtures in my room are still vibrating...
 

xyion

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You have class on Saturday? That stinks. But.

All you can really do is talk to the offending roommates. Unless you want to be labeled the bad roommate, that is. If you have a serious (sober) firm conversation with them, and they truly understand where you are coming from, thing should hopefully turn into your favor.

With the high school drinking and all, I can?t help. But do have a good discussion with your roommates in order to share your views about partying with them.
 

Frosty3799

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hmm...

the charging for the cup idea is a good one, and also that way you aren't selling the kids the alcohol, but selling the cup... that way no illegal sales go on. also, if it is just a keg, and the kids are getting it themselves I dunno how much trouble you/your roommates can get in...

also, the calling from somewhere else when you know they are having a party is a good one too ... I would suggest making sure you ahve a good alliby just incase they come asking questions though, cause it wouldn't look good if one weekend you asked them to shut up and not party, and they didn't follow waht you said, and then the next weekend there are cops showing up during their party time.

well... I would suggest discussing a compromise as another option... tell them they can continue the parties as long as you can fall/stay asleep. if it is too loud for you to do so, then no party the next night? I dunno you will have to try to talk it over... it is quite rude of them to knowingly prevent you from a good night's sleep before a day of classes though :-\
 

markuskidd

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Originally posted by: xyion
You have class on Saturday? That stinks. But.

All you can really do is talk to the offending roommates. Unless you want to be labeled the bad roommate, that is. If you have a serious (sober) firm conversation with them, and they truly understand where you are coming from, thing should hopefully turn into your favor.

With the high school drinking and all, I can?t help. But do have a good discussion with your roommates in order to share your views about partying with them.

The sober conversation has pretty much taken place already, unfortunately. I'm not sure if I'm the "bad" roomate yet, but I know I'm at least the "not cool" roomate (or maybe the "unsocial" roomate) at this point. The thing is, I tend to be pretty laid back about people's choices... that's why I thought it would be alright to live with people who have a different outlook than me. Either I was wrong about how flexible I am, this has gotten way out of hand, or some combination of the two :-\
 

odz

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It all comes down to whether these guys are decent people, and it sounds like they aren't. They just decided to disreguard the agreement you had and screw you over. And they have put you in a bad position because you have to be the 'bad guy' now. I would say just cut your losses and move out.
It takes mature people to get along living together, and they don't sound mature. Find someone that shares your values and move in with them.
BTW, I moved in to an apt with my best friend after high school, and before the lease was up I hated him. :(
 

markuskidd

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Originally posted by: odz
It all comes down to whether these guys are decent people, and it sounds like they aren't. They just decided to disreguard the agreement you had and screw you over. And they have put you in a bad position because you have to be the 'bad guy' now. I would say just cut your losses and move out.
It takes mature people to get along living together, and they don't sound mature. Find someone that shares your values and move in with them.
BTW, I moved in to an apt with my best friend after high school, and before the lease was up I hated him. :(

Sounds like you may have some experience with this :| The reason I haven't been considering that is that I signed a lease along with everyone else... joint and several liability and all that. Do people just ... move out? I mean, I have this contract with the landlords that I need to honor, right?
 

markuskidd

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Hehe, I think my edit was a bit misleading there. I posted something and realize that I had already mentioned it in my first post. Sorry bout that