They endanger themselves too. It's not anymore selfish or unneccessary than not paying attention to the road. I was selfish enough once to text-message while driving. Big mistake.
As long as the charge fits the crime, more power to her. I think the charge should be involuntary manslaughter, but I'm not a lawyer and I'm going to have to trust her on the decision. Do not let the crimnals free with a slap on the wrist, but punish them for the crimes that were committed and not for the emotions that are involved.
Committing suicide is selfish too. Of course you can injure yourself in the process. The lack of consideration for others while fully-knowing what can (and has) happened is seriously disturbing. No excuse for that.[/quote]
I agree.
rh71
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- Aug 28, 2001
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I agree.[/quote]So bad drivers still equate with drunk drivers in your book ?
I don't know... something with drunks enjoying their beverage and then getting behind the wheel with a knowingly increased opportunity to kill other people that gets to me just a tad more. *sarcasm* What's worse is usually they don't die themselves.
mugs
Lifer
- Apr 29, 2003
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Yeah that's pretty dumb.
While I don't have a problem with her refusing to offer plea bargains, I do think that if she's going to take such a hard line approach the BAC should at least be considered. You may be legally drunk at .08, but not substantially impaired.
I wonder if there are any statistics on accidents (fatal or otherwise) caused by someone whose BAC is between .08 and .1
So bad drivers still equate with drunk drivers in your book ?
I don't know... something with drunks enjoying their beverage and then getting behind the wheel with a knowingly increased opportunity to kill other people that gets to me just a tad more. *sarcasm* What's worse is usually they don't die themselves.[/quote]
I don't really know. I think bad decision making is the root cause. You make bad decisions to get hammered and then drive. On top of that, you make bad decisions to not pay attention while driving (and you're more likely to make those bad decisions while drunk). Of course, there are people who can have a few drinks and show absolutely no signs of poor-decision making while on the road and no signs of driving worse than sober. Should we lump those in with the completely hammered and visibily reckless drivers? Our current laws say yes. I say no.
She's my new hero.
:thumbsup:
Though I'd rather see some moderation for first time offenders that don't lose control/cause accidents/hurt others/run from the police, etc. Multiple offenders (like 3+ convictions) should just be shot though.
:thumbsup:
Though I'd rather see some moderation for first time offenders that don't lose control/cause accidents/hurt others/run from the police, etc. Multiple offenders (like 3+ convictions) should just be shot though.
Kelemvor
Lifer
- May 23, 2002
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Good. I truely belive that if someone gets caught driving drunk, they shoudl be sent to jail for whatever the term is. THere are so many times we hear about someone who's arrested for their 8th Drunk Driving charge and it blows me away that this is even possible.
If someone kills someone while drunk, they SHOULD go on trial for murder because that's what they did.
I hope this DA gets a lot done and other follow suit. It woudl be a welcoem change in this country. Until people fear the consequences, they will keep doing it. They should have their cars impounded and then sold at auction after the 2nd or 3rd time it happens. If they can't drive, they can't drive drunk and that would be a really good way of stopping them.
If someone kills someone while drunk, they SHOULD go on trial for murder because that's what they did.
I hope this DA gets a lot done and other follow suit. It woudl be a welcoem change in this country. Until people fear the consequences, they will keep doing it. They should have their cars impounded and then sold at auction after the 2nd or 3rd time it happens. If they can't drive, they can't drive drunk and that would be a really good way of stopping them.
I agree with the murder charges in this case........ If you want to get hammered, get a cab to drive you around....
BrunoPuntzJones
Lifer
- Feb 24, 2001
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About 2 weeks ago some guy darted across a 5 lane highway and was hit by a pick-up. The pedestrian was completely at fault for running out into traffic. But the guy that hit him blew a .08, and was charged with homicide.
Had he blown under he'd probably be fine but hit with a civil suit, and if blew a 0.0, wouldn't have gotten charged with anything.
Had he blown under he'd probably be fine but hit with a civil suit, and if blew a 0.0, wouldn't have gotten charged with anything.
JulesMaximus
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- Jul 3, 2003
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yllus
Elite Member & Lifer
- Aug 20, 2000
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Couple of notes:
- An overly emotional district attorney is not an appealing image. Keep your emotions out of the law, please.
- Zero tolerance often means zero common sense, and so it seems to be the case here. It's dumb to lock up every DWI offender, because the situation might not warrant that result and there are positives to keeping people out of jail. I don't think many DWIers will emerge with their hide only slightly intact from a courtroom and think, "Well, I didn't go to jail...time to grab some JD and take the wheel again!"
- The vast majority of people who drive drunk aren't going to stop to think of the jail term that could result first. It's not an effective deterrent.
- An overly emotional district attorney is not an appealing image. Keep your emotions out of the law, please.
- Zero tolerance often means zero common sense, and so it seems to be the case here. It's dumb to lock up every DWI offender, because the situation might not warrant that result and there are positives to keeping people out of jail. I don't think many DWIers will emerge with their hide only slightly intact from a courtroom and think, "Well, I didn't go to jail...time to grab some JD and take the wheel again!"
- The vast majority of people who drive drunk aren't going to stop to think of the jail term that could result first. It's not an effective deterrent.
OutHouse
Lifer
- Jun 5, 2000
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f*ck yea!!! i have no mercy for DWI's you get caught you should do a madatory 30 days in jail, second time 6 months in jail. third time 3 years in jail. this is a crime that should not be plea bargained at all. this is where tax payers money should be spent compared to busting some hippies with pot. get the dangers out of society.
oh on a side note, talk radio this morning in denver was explaining why the Denver DA has so many peabargins. they DA office said its because the office is swamped with all the crimes the illegals commit and do not have time under colorado law of 6 months to have a speedy trial by jury so they plea bargin most all offences they see.
oh on a side note, talk radio this morning in denver was explaining why the Denver DA has so many peabargins. they DA office said its because the office is swamped with all the crimes the illegals commit and do not have time under colorado law of 6 months to have a speedy trial by jury so they plea bargin most all offences they see.
- Apr 14, 2001
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What is amazing to me is not the support for tougher drunk driving prosecutions, but the near total lack of common sense here.
She is focusing on DUIs and not plea bargaining. Fine, but what about violent crimes with intent to harm others? Murder, robbery, assault, rape?
What struck me on this was the pure emotional aspect of it and lack of logic.
She is focusing on DUIs and not plea bargaining. Fine, but what about violent crimes with intent to harm others? Murder, robbery, assault, rape?
What struck me on this was the pure emotional aspect of it and lack of logic.
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