Ron Paul on Morton Downey Jr. (1988)

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her209

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I don't think making all drugs legal will lessen their usage. It'll make it cheaper for the stoners, meth heads, crack heads, and Charlie Sheen though.
 

momeNt

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Anarchy is really the only way out. I don't want to be on the same team as those fucktards on this show.
 

LetsGetReal

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so you'd ban the sale of alcohol and cigarettes? just asking for clarity :)

is MJ really that much worse? it doesn't appear so, which is why i wouldn't oppose legalization (still wouldn't do it, much like i don't smoke except the very occasional cigar).

that being said, i'd definite oppose legalization of krokodil. i don't mean carte-blanche legalize everything.


Id ban the promotion, marketing and legitimization of addictive substances. If people want it they have to go underground to get it. This keeps the stuff associated with scum instead of giving it the illusion of being acceptable and normal by selling it in stores and marketing it and taxing it.
 

momeNt

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LOL Morton is railing against Ron Paul for his anti-War on Drug stance meanwhile smoking something that is 1000x worse then pot.

Nobody raped and murdered somebody for a cigarette.

Maybe because they could just buy it at a store though? Hmmm... Makes you wonder.

That wise and beautiful woman with the weird hat I wanted to strangle.
 

DucatiMonster696

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Nobody raped and murdered somebody for a cigarette.

Maybe because they could just buy it at a store though? Hmmm... Makes you wonder.

That wise and beautiful woman with the weird hat I wanted to strangle.

I agree however people did rape and murder to control the illegal alcohol trade when it was banned at one point in this country and it was the event that lead to the rise of organize crime in the US from the likes of the Italian mob, etc.
 
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Ron Paul was right and he's being proven right with the massive failure of the war on drugs. It's a shame not many people listened to him though.
 
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Id ban the promotion, marketing and legitimization of addictive substances. If people want it they have to go underground to get it. This keeps the stuff associated with scum instead of giving it the illusion of being acceptable and normal by selling it in stores and marketing it and taxing it.

You're going to be banning an awful lot of stuff, including a number of processed foods that are designed to be addictive to consumers.

So, good luck with that.

Not to mention that you seem to like the idea of maintaining an active criminal underground with its attendant violence, property and personal theft/damage, overcrowded prisons, and so on, and so on, and so on.

Got some 'skin in the game' or something?
 

norseamd

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You're going to be banning an awful lot of stuff, including a number of processed foods that are designed to be addictive to consumers. So, good luck with that. Not to mention that you seem to like the idea of maintaining an active criminal underground with its attendant violence, property and personal theft/damage, overcrowded prisons, and so on, and so on, and so on. Got some 'skin in the game' or something?

was about to say something like this

that will only lead to increased crime

and the anti tobacco movement is getting crazy shit

they are using classic shame ads to try to influence support for banning cigarettes

how does the government have a right to ban something on private property?
 

bradley

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You don't know what a 'contact high' is.

Umm... I'm for the legalization of marijuana, just smoke it in your own house or safe area; I'll assume that's the reason for the blather.

And yeah, not just a contact high, traces of THC can be detected on urine tests after inhaling second-hand marijuana smoke in enclosed spaces... just as second-hand cigarette smoke raises your chance of developing cancer.

Enjoy your freedoms, just don't infringe on mine.
 

LetsGetReal

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You're going to be banning an awful lot of stuff, including a number of processed foods that are designed to be addictive to consumers.

So, good luck with that.

Not to mention that you seem to like the idea of maintaining an active criminal underground with its attendant violence, property and personal theft/damage, overcrowded prisons, and so on, and so on, and so on.

Got some 'skin in the game' or something?


Good luck with the war on drugs. Hows that working for you? and all the crime that goes with it that is worse than the drugs themselves?

Underground ,in the context of my proposed solution, is not a criminal underground since the drugs are not illegal anymore.

Sure add foods intentionally made addictive to the underground list. Im all for it. If people want to put poison in their bodies thats their body they can do it, it should not be illegal, but it should not have societies stamp of approval in and damn straight the government shouldnt have a financial interest in its successs by charging taxes on it.

Sounds like you want your addictions satisfied conveniently at the corner store, whose got skin in the game? The whole point is to make you travel and deal with scummy people to get your fix, this keeps societal dissaproval high and drug use associated with bad unhealthy places and people. Drug use will fall, alcohol tobacco use will decline. America will become healthier, less traffic accidents due to alcohol, lower health care costs, better more productive people after a generation or two of that.

We have to do something, addictive drugs are killiing our country and so is the war on drugs.
 
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OGOC

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Ron Paul was ahead of his time.

Ron Paul is still ahead of his time. Unfortunately. It's like every year more people realize Ron Paul was right 10 years ago, yet they fail to realize he's also right in the present.

He's also very racist.

So racist! ...

What Really Divides Us?
Yet it is the federal government more than anything else that divides us along race, class, religion, and gender lines. The federal government, through its taxes, restrictive regulations, corporate subsidies, racial set-asides, and welfare programs, plays far too large a role in determining who succeeds and who fails in our society.

By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their intense focus on race is inherently racist, because it views individuals only as members of racial groups.

The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity.
 

PliotronX

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LOL @ MDJ yelling and pointing and likening the freedom to smoke marijuana to killing your four year old.
 

zinfamous

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Amazing how in the proper group, Ron Paul cane appear as the most lucid, sensible individual.
 

Genx87

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This show was so effing classic. It was also so 80s. I remember watching it as a kid.
 

Genx87

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Id ban the promotion, marketing and legitimization of addictive substances. If people want it they have to go underground to get it. This keeps the stuff associated with scum instead of giving it the illusion of being acceptable and normal by selling it in stores and marketing it and taxing it.

Prohibition doesn't work.
 

Genx87

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Finally watched the entire clip. lmfao these people. Ron Paul didnt have a chance convincing those brain dead morons of anything.
 

OutHouse

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I don't think making all drugs legal will lessen their usage. It'll make it cheaper for the stoners, meth heads, crack heads, and Charlie Sheen though.

an ounce of top shelf rec pot in colorado is about 400 bucks. price went up...