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It's called a question. Check punctuation. You could try answering it.
I stated earlier that I think history should not be censored in any way...
It's called a question. Check punctuation. You could try answering it.
I stated earlier that I think history should not be censored in any way...
So you're okay with teaching that slavery was integral to the country from its inception, a cornerstone of its economic success, and that the attempt to maintain such a system significantly shaped the legal and socio-political structure of the country, the effects of which are still felt today?I stated earlier that I think history should not be censored in any way...
He won't agree to the truth despite his rhetoricSo you're okay with teaching that slavery was integral to the country from its inception, a cornerstone of its economic success, and that the attempt to maintain such a system significantly shaped the legal and socio-political structure of the country, the effects of which are still felt today?
So you're okay with teaching that slavery was integral to the country from its inception, a cornerstone of its economic success, and that the attempt to maintain such a system significantly shaped the legal and socio-political structure of the country, the effects of which are still felt today?
So you're okay with teaching that slavery was integral to the country from its inception, a cornerstone of its economic success, and that the attempt to maintain such a system significantly shaped the legal and socio-political structure of the country...
the effects of which are still felt today?
Do you have kids?
What part of what @Fenixgoon posted is up for interpretation? Let people who disagree with it explain and the debate will be on.Everyone wants 'factual' history to be taught, it's just that what people consider 'factual' depends heavily on their opinion. The idea that there's some objective factual curriculum to be taught that everyone would agree on as factual is a ridiculous fantasy.
So you're okay with teaching that slavery was integral to the country from its inception, a cornerstone of its economic success, and that the attempt to maintain such a system significantly shaped the legal and socio-political structure of the country, the effects of which are still felt today?
The economic influence is somewhat debatable but that's not really my point - the argument would be that he left out key facts.What part of what @Fenixgoon posted is up for interpretation? Let people who disagree with it explain and the debate will be on.
That's fine. Let them articulate the "facts" omitted and the debate is on. Seems as soon as you ask righties for specifics they go silent.The economic influence is somewhat debatable but that's not really my point - the argument would be that he left out key facts.
To be clear, I agree with him on those points, but that doesn't change the fact that it is literally impossible to teach 'purely factual' history as the choice of what to include or not is an editorial one.
Well of course that's the point, you say 'I just want the facts to be taught' because that sounds good and is what people want to hear, but then you interpret 'the facts' to mean 'whatever I think should be taught'.That's fine. Let them articulate the "facts" omitted and the debate is on. Seems as soon as you ask righties for specifics they go silent.
That's exactly why 20 something residents of Tulsa OK didn't know about the race massacre until the recent anniversary. School districts didn't think that was worth teaching in history until 2005. Why they didn't teach it is open to interpretation but the answer is obvious to me.Well of course that's the point, you say 'I just want the facts to be taught' because that sounds good and is what people want to hear, but then you interpret 'the facts' to mean 'whatever I think should be taught'.
Sometimes this is done by bad faith liars but there are plenty of people too obtuse to see any difference between their opinion and what they consider to be the 'objective facts'.
My favorite part is the shift where they go from 'this was so bad it must have been Democrats in disguise trying to frame us' to 'actually, that was good and we did it'.More evidence of this. They cannot even resist the tropes that Dems might be responsible for even Nazi events, even though the event she called out had nothing to do with Dems. I drove past this on Saturday and confronted these filth. What a disgrace. Amazing that you can be going about your business, be confronted with this hate and the political team takes a shot at their opponents before calling out these actions. They cannot even start by supporting the people who live here and vote. This really is a 3rd-World country in this State.
DeSantis' Press Secretary Deletes Tweet Asking If Nazi Rally Was a 'Stunt'
Christina Pushaw has been condemned for speculating if the white supremacists seen in Florida over the weekend were just people posing as extremists.www.newsweek.com
Doesn't have to be censored to teach it with bias.
So you're okay with teaching that slavery was integral to the country from its inception, a cornerstone of its economic success, and that the attempt to maintain such a system significantly shaped the legal and socio-political structure of the country, the effects of which are still felt today?
Oh totally, as long as you mention that handful of black slave owners too. 🙄
OK, You know what I meant..
Why would you leave that out?
I disagree with the Inception part as that wasn't the plan and was only a solution as presented by the Dutch slave traders which they took advantage of.
In the original settlement plans they were using White bond servants, paying their passage across the ocean from Europe through indentured labor. But that wasn't enough.
I'm OK with saying:
Slavery was started in this country in the beginning to make up for a labor shortages and it became one of the factors of its economic success. And that the attempt to maintain such a system significantly shaped the legal and socio-political structure of the country, the effects of which are still felt today?
Not sure if it was mentioned here already but a bill introduced in Oklahoma wants to ban teaching anything that is contrary to a student's strongly held religious beliefs. Presumably this would outlaw the teaching of evolution.
New Hampshire as well, are these people insane
No public school of this state, as defined pursuant to Section 1-106 of Title 70 of the Oklahoma Statutes, shall employ or contract with a person that promotes positions in the classroom or at any function of the public school that is in opposition to closely held religious beliefs of students.
Not sure if it was mentioned here already but a bill introduced in Oklahoma wants to ban teaching anything that is contrary to a student's strongly held religious beliefs. Presumably this would outlaw the teaching of evolution.
Oklahoma SB1470 | 2022 | Regular Session
Bill Text (2022-02-08) Public schools; creating the Students' Religious Belief Protection Act; authorizing parent to bring certain action. Emergency. [Second Reading referred to Education]legiscan.com
As per usual it is enforced by a Texas style bounty mechanism.