Ron DeSantis continues the Republican whitewash of issues like discrimination, race and this country's history.

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pcgeek11

Lifer
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If a factual representation of what happened makes you feel guilty the problem isn't with the material. But since you don't give a fuck about anything ever why would it even begin to bother you?


I have no problem with the truth of what occurred. I am not responsible for any of it and have No Guilt from it.

Why do you think I would feel guilty?
 

nickqt

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Is there a time when a child, for example, should be admonished, berated, or embarrassed for the color of their skin?
Should? No. But they were anyway, and not just embarrassed, but targeted by the state. And even when laws changed, it was still encouraged and rewarded by the state, when private actors did it legally outside of the law.
I would say not. And the law does claim to protect them. Do you disagree?
Which laws are attempting to embarrass people for the color of their skin? I know the current CRT boogieman is alive and well among right-wing authoritarians, but CRT is neither law nor policy. And just saying "white people in the US profited from slavery and segregation for half a millennium" is NOT a law that attempts to embarrass white people. It's a fucking statement of fact.

Your right-wing authoritarianism isn't negated by your economic centrism, and this line of "reasoning" where you hilariously take Republican fascist legalese as legitimate on it's face is another example of that.

Lazy blacks and communist atheist trans feminazis are not comin' for your stuff. The people passing these laws do want you to believe that, though, and hide it behind the language you're coming here to defend. Gross.
Look at the link. The issue is being pushed.
The link of you doing a google search for "white guilt" that links Ron DeSantis trying to scare white people, and then a bunch of links to ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Reading comprehension. Get some.
 

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Has the DOE done anything about it?

No.

No point proven. Bye.
From the DOE itself...

It's mostly a state and local responsibility.


You know, those state rights things that conservatives selectively ignore.
 

nickqt

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Has the DOE done anything about it?

No.

No point proven. Bye.
Laughing emoji because you got nothing.

You're a fucking clown.

Keep on keepin' on.

Here's an idea: do a google search on whatever nonsense your handlers have trained you to believe like a good lil puppy, and then post the link to prove it right here. Bonus points if you then let your therapist read it so they can get a better purview into your mental health problems.
 
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HomerJS

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Okay... and a snippet of actual text?
The “Individual Freedom” bill states that “an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, does not bear responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex,” and “an individual should not be made to feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race.”

So you claim but what do you do the the kids of German descent when the Holocaust is taught? Do you take neutral position? If you see Nazis running around the country today do you fail to mention their origin?

When this country's history of slavery is taught do you take a neutral position? Did some non-descript group of people build the wealth of this country on the backs of some other non-descript group of people?

Do we never discuss the long term effects of this country's racism?

BTW - If you were so concerned about kids feeling like shit because of their race where were you when this was going on?

In the cafeteria

Students use 'Trump' as anti-Latino taunt during basketball game | CNN

White kids being racist against minorities but you are do all fired up concerned about the truth being taught in history class. Priorities buddy
 
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pcgeek11

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If a factual representation of what happened makes you feel guilty the problem isn't with the material. But since you don't give a fuck about anything ever why would it even begin to bother you?

Where did I say I thought you feel guilty?

I guess you didn't specifically state that you thought I felt guilty...

I do in fact give a crap about a lot of things. Silly misplaced white guilt isn't one of them.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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I guess you didn't specifically state that you thought I felt guilty...

I do in fact give a crap about a lot of things. Silly misplaced white guilt isn't one of them.
You should feel guilty voting for Trump.
 

fskimospy

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That is silly I gave a small representation of some details as an example of what your simplistic description left out.

I wasn't discussing the wealth of urban blacks in New Orleans and what they could or could not afford. Hell most whites couldn't afford slaves either. So what?

Rake indeed. You got nothing.

Obviously you don't care to be honest about it.
Lol - you should really stop digging.

Can you give me an example of a source that you think discusses this topic giving ‘all the facts’?
 

ch33zw1z

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Should? No. But they were anyway, and not just embarrassed, but targeted by the state. And even when laws changed, it was still encouraged and rewarded by the state, when private actors did it legally outside of the law.

Which laws are attempting to embarrass people for the color of their skin? I know the current CRT boogieman is alive and well among right-wing authoritarians, but CRT is neither law nor policy. And just saying "white people in the US profited from slavery and segregation for half a millennium" is NOT a law that attempts to embarrass white people. It's a fucking statement of fact.

Your right-wing authoritarianism isn't negated by your economic centrism, and this line of "reasoning" where you hilariously take Republican fascist legalese as legitimate on it's face is another example of that.

Lazy blacks and communist atheist trans feminazis are not comin' for your stuff. The people passing these laws do want you to believe that, though, and hide it behind the language you're coming here to defend. Gross.

The link of you doing a google search for "white guilt" that links Ron DeSantis trying to scare white people, and then a bunch of links to ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Reading comprehension. Get some.

I liked how the 4th link in the Google search was an interview about white privilege
 

ch33zw1z

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Way to double down and prove his point.

What a troll though, gotta hand it to him. Just bounces around saying whatever. When presented with facts, just falls back to "it's not illegal". McConnell and Trump have him whipped real good.
 
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trenchfoot

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Whitewashing, rewriting history on the fly, banning books in schools about slavery and white supremacists and the KKK, writing racist discriminatory voter laws, sowing doubt about the election process in order to pass those aforementioned restrictive laws, having FOX broadcast blatant hateful racist lies and false accusations about Biden and the libs, arranging an insurrection to prevent Biden being confirmed that he won and Trump lost......gee whiz, its like the Repubs think they need to pull off all of that crap because they'd lose fair and free elections in states they somehow some way have complete control over.

You'd think they'd get the message that their policies and beliefs aren't shared with the majority of the nation and they should wise up, be honest and truthful about who they are and whose interests they actually represent and.......oh shit, and then they'd lose elections all over the nation.

Sucks to be them. I wonder why they feel like they need to be that way.
 

sandorski

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Same with election law changes, Republicans charge that they are simply countering moves made by Democrats. A rather useful guise, you must admit. To draw people into action. To garner unwavering support for... for? Well just about anything.

But what is it they ARE trying to do?
By your description it does sound a tad... evil. Fascist Republican takeover of things is it?
Let's see their take...
“You think about what MLK stood for, he said he didn’t want people judged on the color of their skin but on the content of their character. You listen to some of these people nowadays, they don’t talk about that.”

Okay... and a snippet of actual text?
The “Individual Freedom” bill states that “an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, does not bear responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex,” and “an individual should not be made to feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race.”

In theory it could be fine.... but it IS a reaction and reactionaries often miss the mark and go too far. Abuse the letter of the law to do something untoward. The intent may be good but I do believe it goes a little bit too far. Allows for too much interjection.

But then, how much do YOU disagree with the letter of the law?
“an individual should not be made to feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race.”
Is there a time when a child, for example, should be admonished, berated, or embarrassed for the color of their skin?
I would say not. And the law does claim to protect them. Do you disagree?

Safe Space law?
 
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zinfamous

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This thread is peak pcgeek:

"It's not really a thing so cancelling it means it isn't a deal and it's good it's cancelled because I hate how racist this thing is, this thing that isn't really a thing anyway but of course because I'm told it's a racist thing it's good that this not a thing is cancelled anyway and it isn't a deal at all because this not a thing that was used as an extremely successful cudgel against the gullible to drastically sway elections in 2020 doesn't really matter because it really isn't a thing anyway. Even though I hate it because I'm supposed to and I can't explain what it is and why should I care, anyway? It's just my opinion that I hate a thing that isn't a thing and is no big deal but it's good that not a thing has been cancelled even though it doesn't matter whether it is cancelled or not because it never was a thing, as racist and evil and election-changing as it was. But it's not my fault that other people believe it is more of a thing than it ever was, even though I also hate it like everyone else does. The thing that isn't a thing."

That is the summary of what pcgeek has argued in this thread ^
Truly, a singular brain for the ages.
 

trenchfoot

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I didn't give a shit nor thought about him until you people voted him into office and the country is the worse because of it. Example Trump has made it fashionable to be openly racist again.


I'm still deciding if the majority of Trump's supporters (70+ millions of them) either don't mind if he openly endorses racism or if they really like his being a racist and consider it a significant reason to vote for him.

Either way, for the express reason that he represents the interests of those who would have us return to those days where it was fashionable to wear pointy hoods at gatherings where crosses are burned as a warning and a threat to folks of color, Trump should never have had the chance to continue to popularize his racist slant among his cult following via being reelected. He clearly took a divisive hateful side in this regard blatantly implying that the only people he would represent are those that look, act and think as he does.

That there were over 70 million of his supporters that decided to give him another go at normalizing his racist attitude is a warning to us all that if given a chance, utilizing racism as a means to get elected is still a viable tool that the Repubs will employ now and into the future. Unifying the nation is far from their minds. Dividing it to win elections is their goal.
 

HomerJS

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I'm still deciding if the majority of Trump's supporters (70+ millions of them) either don't mind if he openly endorses racism or if they really like his being a racist and consider it a significant reason to vote for him.

Either way, for the express reason that he represents the interests of those who would have us return to those days where it was fashionable to wear pointy hoods at gatherings where crosses are burned as a warning and a threat to folks of color, Trump should never have had the chance to continue to popularize his racist slant among his cult following via being reelected. He clearly took a divisive hateful side in this regard blatantly implying that the only people he would represent are those that look, act and think as he does.

That there were over 70 million of his supporters that decided to give him another go at normalizing his racist attitude is a warning to us all that if given a chance, utilizing racism as a means to get elected is still a viable tool that the Repubs will employ now and into the future. Unifying the nation is far from their minds. Dividing it to win elections is their goal.
He doesn't get it. If someone took a dump on your living room sofa and all you did was pick up the turd and move it @pcgeek11 would be wondering why the room still smelled like shit. He would claim me complaining about the smell is my problem.
 

Grey_Beard

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It seems the ones screaming about “cancel culture” are the ones who use it the most. This is straight out of Mengele’s handbook, accuse your opposition of that which you do.