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A. pay 5 to 10 times more for energy
B. War
C. Throw them a bone with some appeasement because I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in an Islamist state


Take your pick

I'll choose C

Are you saying we would go to war because we make fun of there religion:\

Explain C because it makes no sense
 

Phokus

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Like a hawk to criticize the film maker and apologize for our freedom of speech?

Great for our economy?

“Burning the Quran is wrong on every level. It puts troops in danger, and it violates a founding principle of our republic.” - Mitt Romney

Lets see if your double standard stands.
 

mchammer187

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Are you saying we would go to war because we make fun of there religion:\

Explain C because it makes no sense

C just means respect their customs just do not do anything that gravely offends them than why is it so be if we do apologize for it. Its like giving into your argument with your girlfriend because you want to have sex. Sure you are right but I'd rather be having sex than be right.


I'm just saying if we "disrespect there religion" we are not dealing with rational person. These are the kind of people that kill Americans over feeling insulted over Mohammad. These are also the kind of people that commit terrorist attacks over them. So why stir the pot if the end result is going to be a tumultuous relationship that is going to end up in more dead Americans.
 
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C just means respect their customs just do not do anything that gravely offends them than why is it so be if we do apologize for it. Its like giving into your argument with your girlfriend because you want to have sex. Sure you are right but I'd rather be having sex than be right.


I'm just saying if we "disrespect there religion" we are not dealing with rational person. These are the kind of people that kill Americans over feeling insulted over Mohammad. These are also the kind of people that commit terrorist attacks over them. So why stir the pot if the end result is going to be a tumultuous relationship that is going to end up in more dead Americans.

We still cant abandon our Freedom. Heres a better idea, get the troops out of that shit-hole and shut down the bases over there and leave them alone, stay out of there business.

Let the crazy religious idiots kill each other over there false skyfairy :D
 

SheHateMe

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We still cant abandon our Freedom. Heres a better idea, get the troops out of that shit-hole and shut down the bases over there and leave them alone, stay out of there business.

Let the crazy religious idiots kill each other over there false skyfairy :D

What is this "abandon our freedoms" shit you're talking about? You've been on this schtick for a while now.
 

DominionSeraph

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Why did barky condemn this video but not the one that attacked Christians :\

Another "Christian" who doesn't even know his own religion.

"You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments." (RSV Exodus 20:3-6).

It is literally impossible to attack a Christian the way a depiction of the prophet Muhammad attacks a Muslim.

Now, you can attack an inbred, ignorant redneck in the same manner, but, let's face it, the self-serving, racist, economically retarded belief system of conservatards isn't something worth respecting.

"God sends hurricanes because, 'gays'."
"If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for 'murrica!"
"9/11 was an inside job!"
"Chemtrails!"
"Obama's a Muslim!"
"Evolution is an atheist conspiracy!"
"NASCAR is a real sport!"

You can't even begin to deal with these people on a rational level. Best to just round them up, lock them in cages, and poke them with sticks for idle amusement.
 
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Matt1970

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Now, you can attack an inbred, ignorant redneck in the same manner, but, let's face it, the self-serving, racist, economically retarded belief system of conservatards isn't something worth respecting.

"God sends hurricanes because, 'gays'."
"If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for 'murrica!"
"9/11 was an inside job!"
"Chemtrails!"
"Obama's a Muslim!"
"Evolution is an atheist conspiracy!"
"NASCAR is a real sport!"

Truthers are Conservatives? Not even close. Chemtrails? LOL and your side has it's own extremists too. Should we say every Liberal is like them?
 

DominionSeraph

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LOL and your side has it's own extremists too.

No it doesn't. The real defining characteristic of extremism is the closed-mindedness. But a person cannot be closed-minded on that level and liberal. A person who is closed-minded as to the facts is just a conservative of another stripe.

Neither liberalism nor conservatism are defined solely as a set of beliefs. They are linked to how those conclusions are reached. Liberals reach their conclusions by the best means available, while conservatives reach theirs through invalid reasoning. The specific set of liberal conclusions shifts as new information is added, and the specific set of conservative conclusions shifts as the stupidity and self-absorption of the uneducated does, so it is not the beliefs but the difference in validity that defines which is which.
If someone with extreme views will not moderate them in light of evidence which calls for it, he is a conservative regardless of where his position stands.
 
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FaaR

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There was a movie that was awarded an award at the Venice film fesitval last week where a woman masturbates with a cross to Jesus.
Did any US ambassadors get killed over that movie?

...No? Then what are you on about? It's not the prez's job to condemn anything and everything that might be offensive to some backwards religious nutters; he'd have time for nothing else if that were the case!

Thats exactly the point, Christians behave like humans and act civil
They do?! News to me!

Btw just one example: all of the warhawks in the Bush Jr. cabinet call themselves christians, and they caused mostly pointless deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians by invading Afghanistan and Iraq.

...So please, allow me to laugh straight out when you tell me how civil and humane christians all are.
 

zsdersw

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Like a hawk to criticize the film maker and apologize for our freedom of speech?

Great for our economy?

The devil you know (Obama) is preferable to the devil you don't (Romney).

They're both horrible choices, but I think Obama is slightly less horrible than Romney. I'm still not voting for either of them, however.

Unlike the fervent defenders/supporters of Obama and of Romney, I don't have any faith in either of them to fix what's broken and right what's wrong.

Voting for Romney because you think he'll do a better job is the same kind of delusional hope that got us Obama... and that's nothing to cheer about.
 
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blankslate

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Yes he condemned the attack which I support, but he also condemned the movie. Thats attacking free speech and justifying the attacks

Please don't make ass-tastic statements.
When you condemn what you consider to be idiotic speech in whatever form it takes it's not attacking free speech.

Trying to get something banned or censored is attacking free speech (which is not always absolute)

This film from what I have heard of it is closer to the slander that was bandied about by the racists during the civil rights movement than to a person speaking truth to power.
 

blankslate

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Voting for Romney because you think he'll do a better job is the same kind of delusional hope that got us Obama... and that's nothing to cheer about.

I'm voting more for the Supreme Court.... if you think that we can risk a more conservative court than the one that has gifted us with citizens United and stopping states from counting all of their votes in close elections then you're beyond hope.
 

emperus

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The devil you know (Obama) is preferable to the devil you don't (Romney).

They're both horrible choices, but I think Obama is slightly less horrible than Romney. I'm still not voting for either of them, however.

Unlike the fervent defenders/supporters of Obama and of Romney, I don't have any faith in either of them to fix what's broken and right what's wrong.

Voting for Romney because you think he'll do a better job is the same kind of delusional hope that got us Obama... and that's nothing to cheer about.

How do you cheer not voting? By not voting you're in effect voting for the status quo which is the winner? No?
 

Greenman

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No it doesn't. The real defining characteristic of extremism is the closed-mindedness. But a person cannot be closed-minded on that level and liberal. A person who is closed-minded as to the facts is just a conservative of another stripe.

Neither liberalism nor conservatism are defined solely as a set of beliefs. They are linked to how those conclusions are reached. Liberals reach their conclusions by the best means available, while conservatives reach theirs through invalid reasoning. The specific set of liberal conclusions shifts as new information is added, and the specific set of conservative conclusions shifts as the stupidity and self-absorption of the uneducated does, so it is not the beliefs but the difference in validity that defines which is which.
If someone with extreme views will not moderate them in light of evidence which calls for it, he is a conservative regardless of where his position stands.

What an absolute crock of self serving bullshit. Most people are liberals because it's easy, there are no tough decisions for libs, anything goes. But the nonstop blaring rhetoric you fellows spout about your mental superiority points out the fundamental weakness of your thinking. Your like an alcoholic that can't stop talking about the benefits of drinking, it wears thin. Get off you're high horse (or in your case pony), no one buys that crap, the only person you have a chance of convincing is your self, and if you were half as bright as you claim you'd see it's nothing more than sound effects.
 

Matt1970

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No it doesn't. The real defining characteristic of extremism is the closed-mindedness. But a person cannot be closed-minded on that level and liberal. A person who is closed-minded as to the facts is just a conservative of another stripe.

Neither liberalism nor conservatism are defined solely as a set of beliefs. They are linked to how those conclusions are reached. Liberals reach their conclusions by the best means available, while conservatives reach theirs through invalid reasoning. The specific set of liberal conclusions shifts as new information is added, and the specific set of conservative conclusions shifts as the stupidity and self-absorption of the uneducated does, so it is not the beliefs but the difference in validity that defines which is which.
If someone with extreme views will not moderate them in light of evidence which calls for it, he is a conservative regardless of where his position stands.

Hell, you have enough extremists just here on this forum. Whether you chose to believe the Liberals have extemists or not is up to you.
 

mchammer187

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Hell, you have enough extremists just here on this forum. Whether you chose to believe the Liberals have extemists or not is up to you.

True both sides have extremist but the point is how much power those extremists hold in each party.
 

Pens1566

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It's amazing to me how many people don't understand that free speech is limited.