Romney: 'Middle-Income' Up To $200,000 to $250,000 Per Year

[emperus]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/romney-middle-income_n_1883819.html

Edited thread title to be accurate for the article linked.

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[Riparian]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/romney-middle-income_n_1883819.html

I think a full quote of what he said is necessary before any judgment is appropriate. If what he said was more along the lines that middle class income is up to $200K to $250K, it's very different than stating that median income in the US is that same amount. I will give him the benefit of the doubt that he is not so detached from reality to believe that the median income of the US is at $200K+.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Another Huffington Post bot has beaten you to the punch.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2270564

 

[halik]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/romney-middle-income_n_1883819.html

The quote in your headline is incorrect

 

[xj0hnx]

Is a symptom of partisan hackery partial deafness? His exact statement was "middle income is $200,000, $250,000 and less". So, he didn't say between $200,000 to $250,000 is middle class, he did however stretch the middle class to include up to $250,000. While that would be the absolute upper end, $250k is not wealthy by any stretch, it's barely "rich".

 

[Smoblikat]

He said less than 250K, doesnt obamas tax bullshit say that he wont raise taxes on middle class Americans, THOSE THAT MAKE 250,00$ OR LESS. Hes literally saying the same thing, yet you denounce him and praise obama. I call partisan tomfoolery.

 

[Aegeon]

He said less than 250K, doesnt obamas tax bullshit say that he wont raise taxes on middle class Americans, THOSE THAT MAKE 250,00$ OR LESS. Hes literally saying the same thing, yet you denounce him and praise obama. I call partisan tomfoolery.

Romney specifically said "middle income" is up to 250,000$ which I would consider significantly different than middle-class which at least generally has a larger broader definition even if it gets abused. (I.E. "upper middle-class.)

I would consider it quite fair to raise this issue to question if Romney is out of touch with what regular Americans really earn, even if the OP got some details of the story wrong.

 

[Skitzer]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/romney-middle-income_n_1883819.html

Reading comprehension fail

 

[lotus503]

Is a symptom of partisan hackery partial deafness? His exact statement was "middle income is $200,000, $250,000 and less". So, he didn't say between $200,000 to $250,000 is middle class, he did however stretch the middle class to include up to $250,000. While that would be the absolute upper end, $250k is not wealthy by any stretch, it's barely "rich".

I agree, not sure why when liberals try to pull conservative board tactics of faux outrage it's such a fail.

 

[hardhat]

Wait, what? Did Romney just say that people earning $12,000 a year, barely surviving, are part of the middle class? I guess everyone but the super rich are the same to him.

 

[Doppel]

Really, we don't need to bend Romney's words. He will sink himself just fine without misinterpretation.

 

[Jhhnn]

I agree, not sure why when liberals try to pull conservative board tactics of faux outrage it's such a fail.

Wait, what? Did Romney just say that people earning $12,000 a year, barely surviving, are part of the middle class? I guess everyone but the super rich are the same to him.

Really, we don't need to bend Romney's words. He will sink himself just fine without misinterpretation.

For a guy born to extreme wealth, taking home $2M/mo while "retired", the rest of us are just peons, even those of us at the 98th percentile of income...

 

[nehalem256]

Isn't that the same definition Obama uses?

Which is why he wants to keep the tax cuts for them. Or are you claiming Obama wants to keep tax cuts for the rich?

 

[Doppel]

For a guy born to extreme wealth, taking home $2M/mo while "retired", the rest of us are just peons, even those of us at the 98th percentile of income...

I know, romney doesn't give a FVCK about you or me, but still...

 

[xj0hnx]

Romney specifically said "middle income" is up to 250,000$

No, he said it is $200K-$250K and below, which is pretty much what Obama says too.

Wait, what? Did Romney just say that people earning $12,000 a year, barely surviving, are part of the middle class? I guess everyone but the super rich are the same to him.

No, he didn't say that.

Really, we don't need to bend Romney's words. He will sink himself just fine without misinterpretation.

Exactly. There is PLENTY coming out of this fuck stains mouth to make fun of, and partisan it up without having to twist and lie.

 

[Aegeon]

No, he said it is $200K-$250K and below, which is pretty much what Obama says too.

It really isn't again.

Middle income is generally going to be defined as something more specific and significantly lower than everyone who arguably can be defined as "middle class."

The term middle income tends to be defined as follows.

of or pertaining to those with an average income within the overall population.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/middle-income

Given the US median household income is around 52,000$, claiming that someone making around 250,000$ is middle income comes across as awfully dubious.

People in some cases might argue they are "upper middle-class" which extends how high income can arguably go in this category considerably. Now you can argue that "middle-class" in the U.S. is generally too broad a term and worthless, but Romney specifically used a term which generally people would certainly not find remotely accurate to apply to people making 250,000$ per year.

 

[emperus]

I concede that the original title and quote were misleading and solely based on the title of the original article. But, however this original title is misleading as well.

Here is Romney's full quote and the question that prompted it. So if in Romney's world, if you are making 100k, you are not yet in the middle class.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Is $100,000 middle income?
MITT ROMNEY: No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less. So number one, don’t reduce– or excuse me, don’t raise taxes on middle-income people, lower them. Number two, don’t reduce the share of taxes paid by the wealthiest. The top 5% will still pay the same share of taxes they pay today. That’s principle one, principle two. Principle three is create incentives for growth, make it easier for businesses to start and to add jobs. And finally, simplify the code, make it easier for people to pay their taxes than the way they have to now.

 

[Genx87]

It really isn't again.

Middle income is generally going to be defined as something more specific and significantly lower than everyone who arguably can be defined as "middle class."

The term middle income tends to be defined as follows.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/middle-income

Given the US median household income is around 52,000$, claiming that someone making around 250,000$ is middle income comes across as awfully dubious.

People in some cases might argue they are "upper middle-class" which extends how high income can arguably go in this category considerably. Now you can argue that "middle-class" in the U.S. is generally too broad a term and worthless, but Romney specifically used a term which generally people would certainly not find remotely accurate to apply to people making 250,000$ per year.

So does Obama so who cares? Obama believes the middle class extends to 250K.

 

[Throckmorton]

Has Obama actually called $250k middle income? As far as I know he calls over $250k rich, but that doesn't mean anything less than that is middle...

 

[soulcougher73]

He should not speak about incomes. He has no idea about reality when it comes to money. But that is to be expected when you are in his wealth range.

Would be the same as someone on welfare talking about being rich as if they'd have any idea.