Romney is not concerned about poor people

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zsdersw

Lifer
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The Progressive Way of Hearing and Reporting



The usual suspects were all over what they thought to be the truth as reported by their media. When faced with what was actually said, those that are moderate accepted it. But the ardent lefties could do little more that fling poo and report talking points about their sworn enemy the GOP. Painting the GOP with the broad brush they've been taught is truth.





Sad but expected.

Read FDR quotes in my link with the progressive media's standard of reporting applied.

“I’m not the smartest fellow in the world.” – FDR

“True individual freedom cannot exist.” -FDR

Let's not forget... it's not just extreme lefties who are giving Romney criticism over his comment. Rush Limbaugh criticized it, Newt criticized it, too.
 

zsdersw

Lifer
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This will be played in the same way John Kerry's "voted for it before I voted against it" was played in right-wing ads. In other words, context doesn't mean sh!t if you've got votes to seek.
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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If they are truly poor property tax probably doesn't apply.

Then SS tax, Medicare tax are proportional to what you make.

State taxes are usually based off federal adjusted gross. In the case of the poor it would also be very little, esp if they are not paying federal income tax.

State sales tax, they pay this on what they purchase as a percentage.
Poor = not much money = not much sales tax.

What is your point?

Mine point is everyone should pay something proportional to income.

Yawn-

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-43552837/why-its-a-myth-that-the-rich-are-overtaxed/

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/02/te022311.html

Notice how federal income tax tails downward at the tippy top- total taxes follow that. That's only taxable income- people from wealthy families also enjoy non-taxable income from inheritance.

This information has been posted in many threads on this forum & you've likely seen it before, yet still find some way to enter denial.

Romney, of course, understands it perfectly well.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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The Progressive Way of Hearing and Reporting



The usual suspects were all over what they thought to be the truth as reported by their media. When faced with what was actually said, those that are moderate accepted it. But the ardent lefties could do little more that fling poo and report talking points about their sworn enemy the GOP. Painting the GOP with the broad brush they've been taught is truth.





Sad but expected.

Read FDR quotes in my link with the progressive media's standard of reporting applied.

“I’m not the smartest fellow in the world.” – FDR

“True individual freedom cannot exist.” -FDR

Here's the problem. Let's say everything you say is true and Romney meant no need to have concern for the poor because he will shore up the safety net, he favors the Ryan budget which makes drastic cuts to the safety net, Medicaid, food, head start programs, etc.

Also Mitt's tax plan will do this to the very poor and very rich...
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Leymenaide

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If we have a safety net why have I gotten kids in my classroom after they were living under a bridge for two years? They come to school acting like feral cats. Children are always better off with their parents. Even when living under a bridge or the lucky ones in an abandoned car.
 

Phokus

Lifer
Nov 20, 1999
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I have to partially defend Romney here: Of course he doesn't care about the very poor (nor does any other Republican). The lie that he made is that he gives a shit about the middle class (he doesn't).
 

MooseNSquirrel

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Read the post. If you don't have much money the amount of money you spend will be low which means the AMOUNT of sales taxes you have to pay will also be lower.

duh. I said nothing about the rate.

Thanks, I can read. Whats your bigger point?

A wealthy individual who spends very little will also pay a LOW AMOUNT.
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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GOP is trying to dismantle the safety net, not fix it.
So Romney is saying, don't worry about poor people, they got safety net, oh and btw, I am going to cut spending which provides for the safety net. But don't put the two together, don't worry, be happy.

LOL Spot on if poor people think the GOP has their back they are in store for a rude awakening.
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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Take Newt. Naturally, Newt now says "he is concerned about the poor". Yeah...RiGhT.
Newt? Romney? Come-on people, how low can you go? I'm shocked how dumbed down America has become, and that the media portrays any of this as serious American politics. George Washington must be turning in his grave that we have come to this.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Yawn-

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-43552837/why-its-a-myth-that-the-rich-are-overtaxed/

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/02/te022311.html

Notice how federal income tax tails downward at the tippy top- total taxes follow that. That's only taxable income- people from wealthy families also enjoy non-taxable income from inheritance.

This information has been posted in many threads on this forum & you've likely seen it before, yet still find some way to enter denial.

Romney, of course, understands it perfectly well.

I didn't say anything related to your post in your quoted post...
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Thanks, I can read. Whats your bigger point?

A wealthy individual who spends very little will also pay a LOW AMOUNT.

OK since your comprehension sucks.
My original point that you posted about was "Poor people spend less money ( because they don't have much ) which results in lower sales taxes that they pay.

You made a comment about Sales Tax Rates were the same for rich and poor. Mr obvious!

I never mentioned the Sales Tax Rate because it is the same for every fuckin body. Of course anyone who spends less pays less sales taxes.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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We don't really know if Romney cares about poor people or not but him joking to a real unemployed women in a coffee shop, "hehe I'm unemployed too", while he makes $20M/yr for not working probably doesn't care.
 

piasabird

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If Romney did not care about poor people how come he gives so much in charitable contributions? I dont think you can find other people in politics that give so much in charitable contributions as Romney!
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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If Romney did not care about poor people how come he gives so much in charitable contributions? I dont think you can find other people in politics that give so much in charitable contributions as Romney!

He donates to his church and he also knows he is running for President so he needs a good image.

Remember his quote "I can't have illegals working here for Pete sake, I'm running for President"
 

fskimospy

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He donates to his church and he also knows he is running for President so he needs a good image.

Remember his quote "I can't have illegals working here for Pete sake, I'm running for President"

Half of his charitable donations were mandated by his church to stay in good standing. Considering the activities of the Mormon Church in recent years, this is not exactly a wonderful thing in my opinion.
 

Juddog

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It's an out of context quote, and won't stop Mittens from winning the primaries.

As an independent, it annoys me greatly when either party takes out of context quotes and parades them around like this.
 

Paul98

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Even in context what he said wasn't good. We should be trying to help the poor to get to the point where they don't need to be using the safety net. It should still be there, but he should be concerned about the poor and getting them to the point where they aren't poor. Or at least get them some growth.
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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Oh poor Mitt...
To Everything.. Spin Spin Spin. There is a Season... Spin Spin Spin.

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, a time to reap that which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

And A time to Spin Spin Spin.
Oh Poor Mitt the Mutt....