Romney is not concerned about poor people

[Jhhnn]

I daresay the poor are worse off today after decades of "love" from the government and welfare programs. Despite good intentions, politicians have loved places like Detroit and Camden, NJ right into 3rd world shit hole conditions.

You daresay based on what though? I can't imagine you're arguing that the only thing that's changed in Detroit in the last several decades is the amount of government intervention.

He's blaming govt for private enterprise offshoring & automation of jobs, and for the race to the bottom wrt worker compensation by "business friendly" states.

Romney's private equity buyout form of financialized capitalism will make the whole country a third world shit hole with everybody & every corporate entity up to their eyeballs in debt held by the financial elite. They don't "create wealth" in the process, at all- they just move it from other people's pockets into their own.

 

[theeedude]

Romney's idea is to make the middle class poor, then he doesn't have to be concerned about them

 

[Throckmorton]

Like he did as Governor? *cough

It's called flip flopping

 

[postmortemIA]

I don't see how rich man can understand poor, and how 47% of population that pays no taxes (since they are basically poor) will vote for almost-billionaire.

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't see how rich man can understand poor, and how 47% of population that pays no taxes (since they are basically poor) will vote for almost-billionaire.

They pay lots of taxes, just not federal income taxes.

 

[pcgeek11]

They pay lots of taxes, just not federal income taxes.

That isn't " lots of taxes ".

 

[OrByte]

Romney says the rich are fiine

Romney says the poor have a safety net, that he will FIX

Not exactly the GOP talking points these days...

Is he showing his (ugly) moderate side already?!?

 

[Rainsford]

That isn't " lots of taxes ".

Yes, what a great deal they're getting...

I also think it highlights a big problem Republicans will have with their economic arguments with Romney as the candidate. The argument that we need to take care of the poor, overtaxed rich people first when your candidate is an UNDER-taxed rich guy is probably not a tremendously smart move. Clearly the whole 47% outrage is getting some mileage, but the argument that the problem with our system is that the poor aren't taxed enough isn't a very good one, IMO.

 

[umbrella39]

That isn't " lots of taxes ".

How many taxes are a lot? If they are paying property tax, SS tax, Medicare tax, State taxes, State sales tax, etc that's a few... perhaps even a lot. It's a lot more than the one tax they aren't paying.

 

[theeedude]

Romney is giving Obama good material to neutralize Romney's attacks in the general election.
Individual mandate: Nothing to get angry about.
High unemployment: Nothing to be concerned about, we got a safety net.

 

[Bitek]

This guy just can't stop saying stuff that makes him look like an out of touch elitist. The last month alone has been a barrage.

Dems got to make something with it. GOP was masterful with Kerry's "for it before I was against it." If any Dem said anything half as bad as Romney keeps saying, the GOP would be sure you never forgot it.

 

[theeedude]

 

[pcgeek11]

Yes, what a great deal they're getting...

I also think it highlights a big problem Republicans will have with their economic arguments with Romney as the candidate. The argument that we need to take care of the poor, overtaxed rich people first when your candidate is an UNDER-taxed rich guy is probably not a tremendously smart move. Clearly the whole 47% outrage is getting some mileage, but the argument that the problem with our system is that the poor aren't taxed enough isn't a very good one, IMO.

You are reading your own bias into what I said.

Try again.

 

[nageov3t]

This guy just can't stop saying stuff that makes him look like an out of touch elitist.

what?

"I’m not concerned about the very rich, they’re doing just fine. I’m concerned about the very heart of the America, the 90, 95 percent of Americans who right now are struggling"

 

[pcgeek11]

How many taxes are a lot? If they are paying property tax, SS tax, Medicare tax, State taxes, State sales tax, etc that's a few... perhaps even a lot. It's a lot more than the one tax they aren't paying.

If they are truly poor property tax probably doesn't apply.

Then SS tax, Medicare tax are proportional to what you make.

State taxes are usually based off federal adjusted gross. In the case of the poor it would also be very little, esp if they are not paying federal income tax.

State sales tax, they pay this on what they purchase as a percentage.
Poor = not much money = not much sales tax.

What is your point?

Mine point is everyone should pay something proportional to income.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

If they are truly poor property tax probably doesn't apply.

Then SS tax, Medicare tax are proportional to what you make.

State taxes are usually based off federal adjusted gross. In the case of the poor it would also be very little, esp if they are not paying federal income tax.

State sales tax, they pay this on what they purchase as a percentage.
Poor = not much money = not much sales tax.

What is your point?

Mine point is everyone should pay something proportional to income.

Everyone pays the same sales tax rate. Poor or rich. Whats your point exactly?

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

what?

"I’m not concerned about the very rich, they’re doing just fine. I’m concerned about the very heart of the America, the 90, 95 percent of Americans who right now are struggling"

HOw many examples do we have of this?

Come on now...

"Im unemployed"

 

[sportage]

Too easy.
My advice to Obama, just skip the debates. Just say no.
Neither Newt nor Romney could win a debate against themself, let alone...
Oh well, why bother...?

 

[dawp]

If they are truly poor property tax probably doesn't apply.

Even if they rent, they still pay property tax, through their rent. The only way out of paying property tax is to either squat a house or live in a tent (no rent, hence no property tax).

Rent is not pure profit for the landlord. Expenses have to come out of it, such as maintenance and taxes.

 

[Craig234]

I can't believe anyone actually believes his saying the very rich are not his concern.

Unbelievable, and they'd buy the Brooklyn Bridge from him.

I need to repeat this:

Politicians need to LOOK good to voters and DO good for donors.

He's countering the attack ads against him, telling people what they want to hear.

His tax plan cuts taxes on the very rich, shifting them to the rest of the country.

What about that doing good for his donors is unclear?

Do people expect him to confess his agenda against the American people?

 

[trenchfoot]

A penny to the rich is an irritant that they would rather round off to the nearest dollar. Any kind of loose change for that matter.

A penny to the poor is something to hold on to until they can save enough of them to make a dollar and buy essentials with it.

Many of the very rich, being very rich, lose sight of the plight of the poor and look down their noses at them with ignorance, arrogance and live with the abject fear of becoming "like" them. To these very rich, the poor are simply a waste of resources and a drain on the tax $$$ that they could be milking and bilking the gov't out of.

This is the class of financially insulated people that Romney comes from. This is the mindset of those that say things like "The poor? They need to lift themselves out of poverty. It's all their own fault they're poor." When in many cases, and for no other reason, in their myopic drive to be "richer" then the next very rich person they envy and fear, these rich folk are sending more and more citizens from the middle class into the ranks of the poor with their predatory corporate "greed is good for me and too bad for you" attitudes.

 

[pcgeek11]

Everyone pays the same sales tax rate. Poor or rich. Whats your point exactly?

Read the post. If you don't have much money the amount of money you spend will be low which means the AMOUNT of sales taxes you have to pay will also be lower.

duh. I said nothing about the rate.

 

[pcgeek11]

I can't believe anyone actually believes his saying the very rich are not his concern.

Unbelievable, and they'd buy the Brooklyn Bridge from him.

I need to repeat this:

Politicians need to LOOK good to voters and DO good for donors.

He's countering the attack ads against him, telling people what they want to hear.

His tax plan cuts taxes on the very rich, shifting them to the rest of the country.

What about that doing good for his donors is unclear?

Do people expect him to confess his agenda against the American people?

Just like Obama...

 

[zsdersw]

Romney's reaction to the flak he's received over this statement is telling. He's reminding everyone that he supports mandatory increases in the minimum wage.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/01/romney-supports-automatic-hikes-in-minimum-wage/

I realize that politicians will say anything to get elected, but Romney is perhaps the biggest example of that on the Republican side. Newt is a close second with his statement about caring about all Americans... in response to Romney's statement.

 

[boomerang]

The Progressive Way of Hearing and Reporting

Mitt Romney Says -

“I’m not concerned with the very poor, we have a safety net there. If it needs repair, I’ll fix it. I’m not concerned about the very rich, they’re doing just fine. I’m concerned about the very heart of the America, the 90 percent, 95 percent of Americans who right now are struggling.”

The left reports the quote as - “I’m not concerned with the very poor.”

The usual suspects were all over what they thought to be the truth as reported by their media. When faced with what was actually said, those that are moderate accepted it. But the ardent lefties could do little more that fling poo and report talking points about their sworn enemy the GOP. Painting the GOP with the broad brush they've been taught is truth.

Romney is giving Obama good material to neutralize Romney's attacks in the general election.
Individual mandate: Nothing to get angry about.
High unemployment: Nothing to be concerned about, we got a safety net.

For Romney poor people are those making anything less than 1$million a year. What he was really saying was that he didn't give a shit about anyone but himself. Elect a sociopath as President and you get what you deserve.

Sad but expected.

Read FDR quotes in my link with the progressive media's standard of reporting applied.

“I’m not the smartest fellow in the world.” – FDR

“True individual freedom cannot exist.” -FDR