Rome may add a red light district for prostitutes

[Sonikku]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rome-may-add-a-red-light-district-for-prostitutes/

Score one for the prostitutes.

 

[DrDoug]

I don't see why not. The pope already knows that none of his priests will go there.

They prefer trolling their Sunday school. :biggrin:

 

[WelshBloke]

It's a good idea but the poor souls that have been brought there are just going to work where their pimps tell them to.
There's always going to be the cheap and (not so) cheerful side of the oldest profession. I don't see how this is going to help those on the desperate edge of things.

 

[Moonbeam]

I don't see why not. The pope already knows that none of his priests will go there.

They prefer trolling their Sunday school. :biggrin:

You're better than that.

 

[Moonbeam]

Imagine your beautiful baby girl child growing up to be a prostitute. It makes me so sad. I feel such sadness for men who have loveless sex. Empty shells where joyous hearts should be.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Imagine your beautiful baby girl child growing up to be a prostitute. It makes me so sad. I feel such sadness for men who have loveless sex. Empty shells where joyous hearts should be.

Devil's advocate; We shouldn't put sex on a pedestal. As soon as you stop thinking about sex as a disgusting act if it's not between married people, suddenly the idea of your daughter growing up to go into porn or prostitution isn't really that big a deal. I mean, sure, you don't want to watch or anything sick like that, and you want to be damn sure she's not being taken advantage of, especially since our puritan interpretation of sex has led the principal people involved in the sex industry to be the worst-of-the-worst humans around. But as long as she's safe and happy, what's so bad about having a daughter who's a prostitute? There's good money to be had from desperate men wanting to get their rocks off, and frankly, it's a sick mind who treats sex without love as something that's somehow worse than poverty. "You made rent? Great! Oh, you were helping other people have orgasms? Well you should be ashamed. Go flip some burgers so you can have some self-worth you disgusting whore."

I'm surprised Moonie; I figured you'd be in favor of prostitution. It doesn't even have to be loveless; it's our puritan interpretation of sex that has made it seem that way.

 

[DrDoug]

You're better than that.

No I'm not. My excuse is that I'm a thoroughly lapsed RC. :awe:

 

[Moonbeam]

No I'm not. My excuse is that I'm a thoroughly lapsed RC. :awe:

Ah, well this will be easy to fix. Give up the excuse.

 

[DrDoug]

Ah, well this will be easy to fix. Give up the excuse.

I already gave up my excuse, that's how I got it!

I was an altar boy for four years and while I never had any problems I saw enough to know that shit was happening. It later came out that I was right about my suspicions but by that time I was long gone from the church. I know there were some good men in the church but it's like the cops covering for bad cops. The church has been more interested in hiding their problem and minimizing their exposure than they have been about dealing with it.

A few bad bananas spoil the bunch.

 

[Moonbeam]

Devil's advocate; We shouldn't put sex on a pedestal. As soon as you stop thinking about sex as a disgusting act if it's not between married people, suddenly the idea of your daughter growing up to go into porn or prostitution isn't really that big a deal. I mean, sure, you don't want to watch or anything sick like that, and you want to be damn sure she's not being taken advantage of, especially since our puritan interpretation of sex has led the principal people involved in the sex industry to be the worst-of-the-worst humans around. But as long as she's safe and happy, what's so bad about having a daughter who's a prostitute? There's good money to be had from desperate men wanting to get their rocks off, and frankly, it's a sick mind who treats sex without love as something that's somehow worse than poverty. "You made rent? Great! Oh, you were helping other people have orgasms? Well you should be ashamed. Go flip some burgers so you can have some self-worth you disgusting whore."

I'm surprised Moonie; I figured you'd be in favor of prostitution. It doesn't even have to be loveless; it's our puritan interpretation of sex that has made it seem that way.

I am not conservative or puritanical and I'm way beyond liberal. I pity your state of ignorance, but I cannot give you what to me is a better visoin. I can only tell you that in a world of folk like me there would be no prostitutes and no Johns.

You are practically adapted to a world full of shit that I will never accept. All I can do is speak for that world and feel pity for those who can't see. Sex is a door to the sacred. I pity those who don't know this. I don't condemn them.

 

[Moonbeam]

I already gave up my excuse, that's how I got it!

I was an altar boy for four years and while I never had any problems I saw enough to know that shit was happening. It later came out that I was right about my suspicions but by that time I was long gone from the church. I know there were some good men in the church but it's like the cops covering for bad cops. The church has been more interested in hiding their problem and minimizing their exposure than they have been about dealing with it.

A few bad bananas spoil the bunch.

Well, you could be better than that. A few bad bananas don't spoil the bunch if you remove them from the bunch before the rot spreads. If you are going to let every personal bad experience determine your world view forever, you may as well be a robot. The whole point of reflective intelligence is to prevent oneself from becoming a brick.

 

[DrDoug]

Well, you could be better than that. A few bad bananas don't spoil the bunch if you remove them from the bunch before the rot spreads. If you are going to let every personal bad experience determine your world view forever, you may as well be a robot. The whole point of reflective intelligence is to prevent oneself from becoming a brick.

As a lapsed RC I have been paying very close attention to how the church has (not) been dealing with this. This isn't some recent phenomenon, it has been going on for decades (if not longer). I know that there are good people in the church and they are not the focus of my derision. The church is. The institution itself and those who enabled it and covered it up.

The way they have dealt with the problem has been pathetic, to say the very least.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I am not conservative or puritanical and I'm way beyond liberal. I pity your state of ignorance, but I cannot give you what to me is a better visoin. I can only tell you that in a world of folk like me there would be no prostitutes and no Johns.

You are practically adapted to a world full of shit that I will never accept. All I can do is speak for that world and feel pity for those who can't see. Sex is a door to the sacred. I pity those who don't know this. I don't condemn them.

So your argument is literally "anyone who doesn't think exactly the same way I do is wrong"? Well that's convincing. You're absolutely placing sex on a pedestal, you just don't seem to realize it in your grandiose holier-than-thou bullshit. Sex isn't "a door to the sacred," it's a physical act that exists for reproduction that happens to carry an orgasm as a practical reason to engage in it. "Practically adapted to a world of shit that you won't accept" doesn't mean everyone else is wrong, it means you can't adjust to reality. I pity your inability to adapt or even recognize the reality that exists around you, to say nothing of the complete lack of self-reflection to realize you're treating sex the EXACT same way the puritans did (condemnation notwithstanding).

 

[Moonbeam]

So your argument is literally "anyone who doesn't think exactly the same way I do is wrong"? Well that's convincing. You're absolutely placing sex on a pedestal, you just don't seem to realize it in your grandiose holier-than-thou bullshit. Sex isn't "a door to the sacred," it's a physical act that exists for reproduction that happens to carry an orgasm as a practical reason to engage in it. "Practically adapted to a world of shit that you won't accept" doesn't mean everyone else is wrong, it means you can't adjust to reality. I pity your inability to adapt or even recognize the reality that exists around you, to say nothing of the complete lack of self-reflection to realize you're treating sex the EXACT same way the puritans did (condemnation notwithstanding).

You don't need to feel bad because you don't experience the sacred as I do. This war you are having is with the part of yourself that knows what I know and that you deny. You are blind to what I see. I pity the blind for the beauty I've seen. I wish with all my heart and soul that I could share it with them. But I don't condemn them for being blind. And I am not as sad for them as I am for you, because your blindness is a programmed condition and is amenable to repair.

 

[Moonbeam]

As a lapsed RC I have been paying very close attention to how the church has (not) been dealing with this. This isn't some recent phenomenon, it has been going on for decades (if not longer). I know that there are good people in the church and they are not the focus of my derision. The church is. The institution itself and those who enabled it and covered it up.

The way they have dealt with the problem has been pathetic, to say the very least.

I don't object to your truth, I object to your bitterness. You've taken a pot of tar and smeared it everywhere. It's not good for your soul. Bitterness is the rot you should fear. It's that, especially, that spreads and it got you.

 

[DrDoug]

I don't object to your truth, I object to your bitterness. You've taken a pot of tar and smeared it everywhere. It's not good for your soul. Bitterness is the rot you should fear. It's that, especially, that spreads and it got you.

Object away O holy one but you are objecting to something that exists only in your mind. I have an opinion on the matter and I have no problem in stating it. The only rot going that should be feared is in the catholic church itself.

I got away from that rot a long time ago but thank you for your misplaced concern.

 

[ayylamayo]

I don't object to your truth, I object to your bitterness. You've taken a pot of tar and smeared it everywhere. It's not good for your soul. Bitterness is the rot you should fear. It's that, especially, that spreads and it got you.

Please stop with this figurative Bible-esque talk. You say sex is sacred and that you pity the prostitutes yet yo go on to pretty much defend these Catholic pedophiles. jesus christ buddy (pun not intended hence thy lowercase j and c)

 

[Moonbeam]

Object away O holy one but you are objecting to something that exists only in your mind. I have an opinion on the matter and I have no problem in stating it. The only rot going that should be feared is in the catholic church itself.

I got away from that rot a long time ago but thank you for your misplaced concern.

My concern, my decision as to whether it's misplaced. When you whip a dog it becomes leery of the stick. You could be better than that.

 

[DrDoug]

My concern, my decision as to whether it's misplaced. When you whip a dog it becomes leery of the stick. You could be better than that.

I like how 'holy' people like to make decisions (pass judgment) about others. It's like they think they are above everyone else and that their advice is a precious pearl of wisdom that is wisely accepted when dispensed. So I should embrace the beating because I'm better than that? Sounds very religious to me so thanks but no thanks. Now go pray, I mean prey, on someone else please.

Or better yet, make people happy and don't.

 

[Moonbeam]

Please stop with this figurative Bible-esque talk. You say sex is sacred and that you pity the prostitutes yet yo go on to pretty much defend these Catholic pedophiles. jesus christ buddy (pun not intended hence thy lowercase j and c)

Least you decide I'm too holy, go fuck yourself. I'm not defending pedophiles, you idiot. I am talking to somebody whose post I generally admire suggesting that he is bitter and it's not good for him. I tell him what I know is true and I don't give a fuck whether you or he knows it. You can take your feelings of inferiority and shove them up your ass. You and he have allowed the presence of pedophiles in the church affect your mental health and you're too damned obsessed by hatred to see it. It's that kind of mental illness that caused the pedophiles to go underground had hide inside authoritarian organizations rather than seeking mental help with an emotional problem. You create fear instead of compassion for the mentally ill. You get played like tools, lead around like bulls with rings in the nose by rage.

 

[ayylamayo]

Here, I'll make it really easy for you by answering you with your own post.

I'm not defending pedophiles, you idiot.

You create fear instead of compassion for the mentally ill.

"I'm not defending them I'm just saying we should love the pedophiles" lmao

you're too damned obsessed by hatred to see it.

go fuck yourself

You can take your feelings of inferiority and shove them up your ass.

Rightio buddy whatever you say, sorry for bringing hatred or something.

You get played like tools, lead around like bulls with rings in the nose by rage.

But you're the one glorifying and worshipping an old man who is praised for sitting on a golden throne, doing shit all, raping little ones here and there and god knows what else behind closed doors all because he is a supposed [insert bollocks title here] of g0d.

 

[Moonbeam]

I like how 'holy' people like to make decisions (pass judgment) about others. It's like they think they are above everyone else and that their advice is a precious pearl of wisdom that is wisely accepted when dispensed. So I should embrace the beating because I'm better than that? Sounds very religious to me so thanks but no thanks. Now go pray, I mean prey, on someone else please.

Or better yet, make people happy and don't.

If you weren't filled with feelings of inferiority you wouldn't get that impression. You have an illness called bitterness. All your bull shit won't change that. You are the only one who will suffer from your denial, not me. Sorry you were too ill to want to face it. I have a duty knowing the truth to tell you. My job is now complete. Do your best not to waste your life in bitterness, in future, if you can. There is only love.

 

[Moonbeam]

ayylamayo:

Here, I'll make it really easy for you by answering you with your own post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonbeam
I'm not defending pedophiles, you idiot.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonbeam
You create fear instead of compassion for the mentally ill.

"I'm not defending them I'm just saying we should love the pedophiles" lmao

M: I'm sorry that you can't think. Having compassion for the mentally ill is not the same as defending the actions of the mentally ill. When the mentally ill act out they need to be prevented from doing so again.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonbeam
you're too damned obsessed by hatred to see it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonbeam
go fuck yourself

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonbeam
You can take your feelings of inferiority and shove them up your ass.

Rightio buddy whatever you say.

M: I can live with that.

 

[ayylamayo]

Let me pop by to my local church and tell good ol' Pastor John he is a great guy and that g0d loves him no matter what injustice he causes to little children (who will most definitely NOT have any form of mental illnesses despite a 70 y/o grandpa sticking his - ...) due to his not-so-sick sexual fetishes which are definitely signs of mental illness *cough*desires*cough* that he definitely cannot control.

What a great guy he is, might shout him a beer or two when I see him at the pub hey?

Speaking of alcohol, many drink drivers are mentally Ill as they have no control of how much money they spend at the tavern - that are always conveniently located right next to their houses; we should show them compassion because killing innocent civilians and causing dismay to families and the community is what g0d wants anyways.

 

[DrDoug]

Least you decide I'm too holy, go fuck yourself. I'm not defending pedophiles, you idiot. I am talking to somebody whose post I generally admire suggesting that he is bitter and it's not good for him. I tell him what I know is true and I don't give a fuck whether you or he knows it. You can take your feelings of inferiority and shove them up your ass. You and he have allowed the presence of pedophiles in the church affect your mental health and you're too damned obsessed by hatred to see it. It's that kind of mental illness that caused the pedophiles to go underground had hide inside authoritarian organizations rather than seeking mental help with an emotional problem. You create fear instead of compassion for the mentally ill. You get played like tools, lead around like bulls with rings in the nose by rage.

The only one here who is mental is you. I am not bitter a bit about the church because I have nothing to do with it. It's like child rape, I'm not bitter about that either. I am disgusted by those who would do it. Really, it's that simple. Nothing I say or do will change what the church has become, therefore why bother with it other than to laugh at it when the occasion presents itself.

Like it did here. Enough of a threadjack, lets get back to the show.