ROFL - FIG asks Hamm to give up Gold Medal
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So now they want to shift the blame for the judges screwing up and make Hamm the bad guy here, saying that he's not a good sportman if he refuses?
I'd be tempted to have the gold medal melted down so no one could have it.
Or made into 2 smaller medals and shared.
Or made into 2 smaller medals and shared.
BeauJangles
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It's rediculous to ask Hamm to make this right because HE DID NOTHING WRONG. He didn't bribe the judges. They messed up. Hamm won gold and now to try and go back to correct it is crazy. Think about it. If we go back say "oh, this was a mistake and he should have been given .1 pts higher" what sort of impact does that have on the competition? We can't say that everything would have turned out exactly the same way, so how can we go back and say that the Korean "should have" won the gold? I hate to say it, but the events that transpired in the scoring influenced the event, and, thus, changing the Korean's score could have potentially altered the entire medal standings.
On top of that, why don't we go back and exam all the film with a fine-toothed comb? I'm sure we can find other judging mistakes that influence the event as well. Where do we draw the line when we are trying to correct for mistakes like this?
People should recognize that, like anything, humans make mistakes and nomatter how much technology we add into judging sports like gymnastics, there is always a subjective interpretation by a human. Thus, there will be mistakes, but trying to place the blame on an American athlete who simply competed is absurd.
On top of that, why don't we go back and exam all the film with a fine-toothed comb? I'm sure we can find other judging mistakes that influence the event as well. Where do we draw the line when we are trying to correct for mistakes like this?
People should recognize that, like anything, humans make mistakes and nomatter how much technology we add into judging sports like gymnastics, there is always a subjective interpretation by a human. Thus, there will be mistakes, but trying to place the blame on an American athlete who simply competed is absurd.
The last Olympic gold medals that were made entirely out of gold were awarded in 1912.
Each medal must be at least three millimeters thick and 60 millimeters in diameter. Also, the gold and silver Olympic medals must be made out of 92.5 percent silver, with the gold medal covered in six grams of gold.
Each medal must be at least three millimeters thick and 60 millimeters in diameter. Also, the gold and silver Olympic medals must be made out of 92.5 percent silver, with the gold medal covered in six grams of gold.
ThePresence
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- Nov 19, 2001
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But...but...but Americans are inherently evil, cheaters, arrogance, stupid, bastards, fat...etc, so just boo them and don't deserve any medals! Blame America for your athletes' failure and doping scandals, fake motorcyle accident. That's what I see from watching the Olympics. Aren't the Greek fans great, such Olympic spirits
BlueWeasel
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BrunoPuntzJones
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GTaudiophile
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i do not believe hamm should be pulished. it's the dumbass/scumbag judges and officials that should be pulished. these asses not only screwed the koream. they screwed russian, germany (on 2 gold medals), china (mens fencing gold, the judge got suspended too)
Your a fscking idiot I swear. Hamm does not DESERVE this medal. Regardless of how the judges messed up, it says a lot about the character of Paul Hamm. I think it is a very selfish move on his part to keep the medal. The right thing to do would be to give up the medal to the Korean, Hamm did not earn this medal fairly.
In all of this discussion, I ask you how must the Korean guy be feeling? He worked his butt off his whole life to train for this one moment, and now its ruined because of a technicality that was entirely out of his hands. Hamm can make this right and give back the medal. Otherwise, he will always be remembered for NOT actually winning the gold medal.
On a side note: Why the hell can't they both be awarded medals?
- Feb 8, 2001
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No one will care how he won it in a few years. They will only remember how f'ed up the judges were in the 2004 Olympics. I think a precedence was set in Canada for the winter Olympics where they issued a second Gold Medal for their FU. Pony up the funds and get another Gold
Hamm should have given the medal back as soon as he found out about the dispute....but I'm personally more upset over how Hamm got a better score than Nemov. His voice also annoys me.....
Phoenix86
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- May 21, 2003
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No, there are rules in place for contesting this type of scoring error. Since the Korean's coach didn't contest the score on the floor, that night, they forfeited their claim. There has to be an end to every game, and that is set by the rules. The rules were not followed (by the coach to correct the score) and they lost the medal, according to the rules.
No, we would have contested the score before it became a problem, like we did twice in the mens all around. The blame falls squarely on the judges AND, perhaps most importantly, the Korean coach(s).
Yeah, definately dual gold is the way to go. There's no way the Korean should suffer as a result of the judge's stupidity nor should Hamm. It's impossible to say that Hamm didn't deserve the medal since as was mentioned before, if the score was changed, it would have affected the entire competition after it.
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