Road Rules on MTV...

[mztykal]

...anyone else not like Donnell?

He talks way too much shiet for what he actually does. Plus he can talk all that shiet about everyone, but he can't take it. He was almost in tears when they were jokin about him shaving his legs and plucking his eyebrows.

*sigh*

Reason for this post, there's nothing else on tv today.

 

[Spac3d]

Do a search, there is a topic on this already.

 

Yeah, there's already a topic on this. If only my family members would free the TVs so I can watch Road Rules.

Donnell reminds me of Chris on Real World, except Chris makes me laugh. LMAO! I enjoy watching him taunt those picky, begrudging girls.

Anyway, yeah, I don't find Donnell attractive and don't like him that much, but I do like the drama he adds with his mouth. But to be honest, I would keep Donnell rather than keep one of those girls. I forget her name. I have to see the show again to know which one.

 

[isekii]

he talks a lot of smack
i would like to personally punch him in the face to shut him up.

i'm glad abe smacked him around a few, it was well deserved.
When they showed the replay clip, they cut out all the things that Donnell had instigated.

Bunch of crap if you ask me.

 

[friedpie]

Donell was cast to be a troublemaker. He had been arrested for beating his girlfriend (she must be a total loser). You can read about it on the smoking gun website. He claims MTV knew he had been arrested, if so, they wanted him there to cause trouble. They got their wish.

I wonder if those two idiots Cara and Mary Beth who sucked up to the big turd knew he had a history of violence against women. Maybe they wouldn't have been so quick to condemn Abe.

 

[digitalsm]

I wonder if those two idiots Cara and Mary Beth who sucked up to the big turd knew he had a history of violence against women. Maybe they wouldn't have been so quick to condemn Abe.

I dont think they knew he was an abuser, but its so obvious just watching him.

 

Some of you need to cut the crap in attempts to portray Abe as this helpless guy who had to do what he did. Remember when Ronnie (a Black lady) attacked a Road Rules member (I think it was Road Rules Puerto Rico--that boring episode). She even made the show interesting, considering how boring it was. Well, in spite of her background and what type of life she would be returning to, she was expelled.

If Abe had the audacity to assault someone, albeit an annoying guy, he should have the the strength to accept his fate. You're not supposed to physically assault someone because you couldn't stand up to verbal assault or mouth diarrhea.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: luvly
Some of you need to cut the crap in attempts to portray Abe as this helpless guy who had to do what he did. Remember when Ronnie (a Black lady) attacked a Road Rules member (I think it was Road Rules Puerto Rico--that boring episode). She even made the show interesting, considering how boring it was. Well, in spite of her background and what type of life she would be returning to, she was expelled.

If Abe had the audacity to assault someone, albeit an annoying guy, he should have the the strength to accept his fate. You're not supposed to physically assault someone because you couldn't stand up to verbal assault or mouth diarrhea.

He did get what was coming to him, which was being kicked off the show. But what about Donnell ? I saw him throw a punch. Why not throw him off as well.
Did you see them show the replay ? How they cut out all the parts of Donnell but showed all the mistakes that Abe made ?
Whoever said Abe was helpless ? I'm glad he kicked the crap out of Donnell.

 

[digitalsm]

Some of you need to cut the crap in attempts to portray Abe as this helpless guy who had to do what he did. Remember when Ronnie (a Black lady) attacked a Road Rules member (I think it was Road Rules Puerto Rico--that boring episode). She even made the show interesting, considering how boring it was. Well, in spite of her background and what type of life she would be returning to, she was expelled.

It should have never got to that point. The production company should have been responsible, as they knew Donnells violent abusive past, they should have stopped it before it started.

 

"But what about Donnell ? I saw him throw a punch. Why not throw him off as well."

If it was in self-defence, then why should he be dismissed? He only deserves to be expelled if he physically instigated the fight or prolonged the fight. Road Rules and Real World are known as shows where they bring annoying people to play roles and make the shows interesting. I remember when they kicked out Pork in Real World San Francisco. I found that so preposterous, in spite of how disgusting, annoying and dirty he was. The reason things turned out as they did was because of the homosexual guy with AIDs. The producers were trying to cater to his emotional needs, as were the other roommates. Trust me, if Pedro wasn't a guy with AIDs or if he weren't homosexual, Pork would have been left in the show to the end, in spite of his provocative nature.

 

[friedpie]

Um, no one leading up to your rant, Luvly, portrayed Abe as helpless or without fault.

The subject was and is Donell. It's ironic that he's also an abuser of women. Where is your indignation over that? Aren't you a woman? Doesn't the thought of a large man beating up a woman scare you? Instead you want to rail on Abe for standing up to the fat blowhard. Your priorities are out of order.

 

[Twista]

nope! i dont like his butt.

 

[Nocturnal]

All I know is that guy got his ass handed to him. The guy who got beaten was three times larger than that racist guy.

 

[Nocturnal]

Seriously, for those of you who stick up for people like Donnell and say stuff like, "Well he shouldn't have resorted to violence." Some people BLOW UP. If you can't take a beating then why instigate one? That makes absolutely no sense. Almost all the fights I've gotten into were because of people teasing me. I can't take the heat, I don't know what to say back; therefore I punch his lights out. Sorry but if you wanna verbally assault someone, you better be ready to be physically assaulted. I could see if the guy had not said anything to Abe and out of nowhere he violently and viciously attacked Donnell but, that wasn't the case, was it? No.

 

[slick230]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
All I know is that guy got his ass handed to him. The guy who got beaten was three times larger than that racist guy.

He's just a fatass sh|t talker with man-tits, and hopefully he'll be a victim of street justice when he beats on the wrong woman.

And Luvly, it's PUCK, not PORK. LOL

 

Friedpie, yes you and others did. Must I link to the other thread where you were all so sympathetic and made Abe seem like a helpless guy?

By the way, Road Rules wasn't like this until the Ronnie (spelling?) incident. That was the first time I ever saw them dismiss someone for physically fighting. (Funny in Real World Boston they didn't kick out that stupid guy Stephen(?) that slapped Irene. It could be because Irene left.) I remember when Belou (a lady) on Real World Europe assaulted Antoine (a guy) , she was left in the show. She was so in infatuated with the guy, so she often got frustrated when he wouldn't return her feeling. She made the show so fun, though. She was the drama and everything. She made you feel her emotions, her pain, her affection, care, everything. Unfortunately, ever since the Ronnie incident they've been dismissing people.

 

[slick230]

Also, if you watched the whole episode, Abe tried to talk sensibly to the fatass woman beater, but all he got in return was loudmouth bitch talk. Even as Abe was walking away, Fatass was still talking sh|t and would not shut his damn mouth. I would have jumped his ass, too. I would have chucked his fat carcass out the fvcking window.

 

[cheapgoose]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Seriously, for those of you who stick up for people like Donnell and say stuff like, "Well he shouldn't have resorted to violence." Some people BLOW UP. If you can't take a beating then why instigate one? That makes absolutely no sense. Almost all the fights I've gotten into were because of people teasing me. I can't take the heat, I don't know what to say back; therefore I punch his lights out. Sorry but if you wanna verbally assault someone, you better be ready to be physically assaulted. I could see if the guy had not said anything to Abe and out of nowhere he violently and viciously attacked Donnell but, that wasn't the case, was it? No.

I'm with you. You can't talk smack and then hide behind "violence is never the answer". You don't wanna fight? keep your mouth shut. Some people are good with words, some people aren't. Donnell deserved to get his ass beat. I'm surprised it actually took Abe that long to blow. I would love to have abe stayed and see if something could happen with him and that chick. not the dumb one, nor the fake boobs one.

 

[friedpie]

Originally posted by: luvly
He only deserves to be expelled if he physically instigated the fight or prolonged the fight.

Did you see what happened? Donell did instigate the entire matter, and he did prolong it. Abe tried to walk away a number of times. Abe was leaving before the fight started because Donell would not shut up. Donell then yelled at Abe "Don't say something you can't back up." In other words, he was calling Abe out. Naturally, Abe ran back towards him but the other guy stopped him. Donell knew exactly what he was doing. Now you might think Abe is weak for giving in to his emotions. That's OK, I'm sure you would not say the same thing if someone were to call a black person a n*gger and fight breaks out.

Road Rules and Real World are known as shows where they bring annoying people to play roles and make the shows interesting. I remember when they kicked out Pork in Real World San Francisco. I found that so preposterous, in spite of how disgusting, annoying and dirty he was. The reason things turned out as they did was because of the homosexual guy with AIDs. The producers were trying to cater to his emotional needs, as were the other roommates. Trust me, if Pedro wasn't a guy with AIDs or if he weren't homosexual, Pork would have been left in the show to the end, in spite of his provocative nature.

That pretty much sums up what utter lowlifes Bunim/Murray are. They cast Pedro so they could use his illness for ratings. They would claim it was to educate people, but that's a convenient alibi if you ask me. This is TV people, they need to make money. Anyway, then they let a psycho like Puck hoping I would assume that Puck and Pedro would clash. You call it interesting, maybe even good entertainment. Some of us think it's pretty disgusting.

Donell being on there was no accident. The evil geniuses at B/M knew mixing a loud mouthed jackass with a criminal record in the mix would cause fireworks. Fireworks = ratings.

Friedpie, yes you and others did. Must I link to the other thread where you were all so sympathetic and made Abe seem like a helpless guy?

We were not talkng about another thread at the time you wrote your rant.

As for Abe, I don't remember ever saying he should have stayed after the fight. I will say I don't blame him for fighting. That doesn't absolve Donell. It takes two to tango, and Donell was just as responsible. The fact that he was viewed as the victim was a joke.

I was more pissed off at those two shews Cara and Mary Beth for their reactions to the fight and their sucking up to poor Donny. They didn't want to admit they helped push Abe over the edge, they even said as much.

I wonder if they would still love big boy knowing he beat his girlfriend not once, but twice. They claim to be afraid of Abe because he was violent, but it looks like Donell was probably more of a threat since he only beats up on women.

 

Thanks for the correction, Slick230.

There's simply no excuse for what Abe did. That's the rule of the show now, so everyone is subject to the same punishment. Also, you guys are citing the fact that Donnell is being charged with domestic violence. Hence, he's facing the consequences for his action. So why do you try to justify the same conduct by Abe? Are you saying it matters if it's a guy assaulting a guy, a woman assaulting a woman or a woman assaulting a guy? I don't see a difference. Assault is assault if it's enough to cause pain and suffering and for the other party to want to press charges. You want to subject MTV to a possible lawsuit. Let me know when you're ready to pay their expenses.

As I said, I'm not a fan of Donnell, and I do like Abe. However, I won't try to justify his conduct. His circumstance only comes in when deciding how much punishment he deserved. I can understand MTV kicking out people who physically assault someone else, so I don't think the punishment was unwarranted or excessive.

 

[Tsaico]

Bah, this is just more evidence in the pussification of America. If they had a problem and wanted to settle it with fists, fine... so be it... ALL fights end when the other guy can't continue then the issue is settled. So as long as no bones are broken, then I say all is fine to take things outside. I think they should have left it be and left them. As far as Abe being kicked off the show, that is fine too, since it was in the rules... throw the first punch get tossed. I just don't think the rule should be in there at all...

 

[slick230]

So Luvly, on a kind of related note, how do you feel about the current "cast" of MTV's Making the Band? You know, the one with the "rappers" and with P. Diddy being the one offering the contract? Seems to me like those thugs are dropping the gloves every episode, and I don't think any of them have been kicked off. Surely MTV could be exposed to a lawsuit from the violent behavior on that show, the same as Road Rules, right? So why don't they kick those thugs off the P. Diddy show? Is it just because that's how they are and it's accepted that they will solve their issues by fighting? Or is it supposed to be part of becoming a real "singing" group?

Seems like a double standard to me.

 

[styrafoam]

I liked the way Donnel talked big once Abe was out of the room. Abe land 3 solid punches on his flabby skull and is drug from the room then Donnel proceeds to say how "nobuddy put they hands on me like dat, its all I cun do to not go kick his ass." They bring Abe back in, watch the tape, Abe apologizes and leaves, Donnel talks more smack once he is out of the room. He is used to having people avoid conflict because of his size, and when somebody took it to him he just flopped around.

 

"That's OK, I'm sure you would not say the same thing if someone were to call a black person a n*gger and fight breaks out."

Actually, Fried Pie, if someone were to call someone a n*gg*r and then the other person acts by physically assaulting that person, then I would say both should be kicked out. The person who called someone a n*gg*r should promptly be dismissed. The other person who assaulted that person should be kicked out, for the sake of the producers (i.e., lawsuit). On the other hand, I would understand the reaction of the person who was called a n*gg*r.

Slick230, actually, yeah, it's a double standard, but MTV wouldn't be carrying the show in the first place if they couldn't accommodate the thug life. It's understood that it's thug life, and it helps them when casting the stereotyped roles. (Besides, isn't Puff Daddy the producer? He has people of his type. And he would be the one that stands the risk of a lawsuit.) However, if any of those folks should really lose it and get really violent, then of course I expect MTV to act (uhmm, if it's in their jurisdiction). I remember the case of that lady from the ghetto who had braids on. She was cut early (I think she was the one who kept saying how she planned to go solo). She got violent when she heard the news, except she wasn't hitting people. She was hitting objects. She scared me. She was in between, so quite suiting for the camera with the drama. But if she lost it to the point of seeming to threaten people physically, I would hope MTV/the producers would take prompt action.

 

[friedpie]

Actually, Fried Pie, if someone were to call someone a n*gg*r and then the other person acts by physically assaulting that person, then I would say both should be kicked out. The person who called someone a n*gg*r should promptly be dismissed. The other person who assaulted that person should be kicked out, for the sake of the producers (i.e., lawsuit). On the other hand, I would understand the reaction of the person who was called a n*gg*r.

This puzzles me.

You are admitting that words can incite violence, yet I am not so sure you would admit Donell's words incited Abe to violence. You have not yet questioned why Donell was not released from the show for inciting violence.