RNC vote suppression...

nonlnear

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So... did anyone actually show up to vote and find that they were off the list due to any of these activities? If so I say string her up; if not this is an imaginary controversy.

All it would take is ONE voter who properly registered, and was removed from the list due to fraudulent activity to destroy this lawyer and the machine she was a part of. The ACLU would piss themselves with glee to bankroll the case all the way up to SCOTUS, and it would be a slam-dunk win for the suppressed voters. I would applaud such a ruling too, because preventing real people from voting is a heinous act which should be punished severely. However if districts have procedures in place which do not accurately cull the lists, you can't blame either side for investing their resources in cleaning up the records in those areas where it is going to be most politically advantageous to them.

There is a sensible middle ground to be reached in all this nonsense, and neither side really wants to go there...
 

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Deudalus

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You mean like those two black panther party members with clubs standing outside a polling station when Obama was on the ballot?

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Here's a litmus test, were you outraged then too?
 

rudder

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Wow if it was that easy I wonder why the RNC did not see fit to give themselves a super duper congressional majority.

Can't wait for what will happen in 2012.

So when obama loses... it will have nothing to do with performance and sinking approval ratings. Mmmkay gotcha.
 
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her209

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Elections were lost because of weak candidates!

Just like in any sports games - multiple mistakes/errors will create a loss. A good team can overcome one error; a bad team points out the one error, ignoring the others as an excuse
If a '04 Kerry loss meant an '08 Obama victory, then it was a good trade off.
 

ky54

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The bottom line is Gore couldn't carry his own state of Tennessee which would have given him enough votes in the electoral college regardless of what happened in Florida. If his own people didn't want him why should we?
 

highland145

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You mean like those two black panther party members with clubs standing outside a polling station when Obama was on the ballot?

Philadelphia_polling_place_security_patrols_2008.png


Here's a litmus test, were you outraged then too?
Yes, when they weren't going to be prosecuted.
 

her209

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You mean like those two black panther party members with clubs standing outside a polling station when Obama was on the ballot?

Philadelphia_polling_place_security_patrols_2008.png


Here's a litmus test, were you outraged then too?
Hmmm... tell me more about the chick on the left.

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You mean like those two black panther party members with clubs standing outside a polling station when Obama was on the ballot?

Philadelphia_polling_place_security_patrols_2008.png


Here's a litmus test, were you outraged then too?

You are comparing two random guys at one voting location to a coordinated effort by the RNC and government officials to suppress votes on a mass scale? Really? You could have at least gone with some ACORN bullshit.
 

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You are comparing two random guys at one voting location to a coordinated effort by the RNC and government officials to suppress votes on a mass scale? Really? You could have at least gone with some ACORN bullshit.

I'm not saying the two are equal.

What I am ASKING is if the OP also has a problem with voter intimidation when it benefits the libs.

Is he worried about voter fraud and voter intimidation as a whole or just when it doesn't benefit him.

Basically this is a "do you think like Craig" test.
 

heyheybooboo

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I'm not saying the two are equal.

What I am ASKING is if the OP also has a problem with voter intimidation when it benefits the libs.

Is he worried about voter fraud and voter intimidation as a whole or just when it doesn't benefit him.

Basically this is a "do you think like Craig" test.

Perhaps you will reveal how many voters were prevented from exercising their rights in this so-called 'intimidation'.

Sorry.

Your non-sequiturs, propaganda and fallacy don't apply.






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I'm not saying the two are equal.

What I am ASKING is if the OP also has a problem with voter intimidation when it benefits the libs.

Is he worried about voter fraud and voter intimidation as a whole or just when it doesn't benefit him.

Basically this is a "do you think like Craig" test.

Please, only one of these stories is outrage worthy, the other is worth an eye roll and maybe a grumble or two. Not "OMG, two black dudes loitering and leering at white folks, teh outrage!!1!"
 

Deudalus

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Perhaps you will reveal how many voters were prevented from exercising their rights in this so-called 'intimidation'.
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Firstly, that's impossible to say and if you have any sense in your head you know that.

Secondly, they were attempting to intimidate voters. That is a crime. A voter doesn't actually have to come forward and say "I didn't vote because I was scared."

You do realize attempted murder is a crime right? Direct comparison.
 

nonlnear

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You are comparing two random guys at one voting location to a coordinated effort by the RNC and government officials to suppress votes on a mass scale? Really? You could have at least gone with some ACORN bullshit.
Whose votes were suppressed? Was there somebody who showed up to vote but was prevented because they weren't on the list any more? I honestly don't know, so don't take that as a rhetorical question. I would have expected it to be headline news if it had actually happened though. If it did I think we need to deal with these efforts with as much brutality as the courts can wield, but if there are no complainants* then exactly whose votes were suppressed?

* or potential complainants - if this effort never actually came to fruition but would have affected real people if it ended up culling the lists. The article didn't seem 100% clear to me as to whether the efforts actually resulted in any lists being culled. If the efforts were made but didn't end up affecting the lists, then I would agree that there would still be cause for alarm if there were any real people who were included in the failed attempt.
 

Deudalus

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Please, only one of these stories is outrage worthy, the other is worth an eye roll and maybe a grumble or two. Not "OMG, two black dudes loitering and leering at white folks, teh outrage!!1!"

Should the Klan be allowed to put on their sheets and wield clubs and hang out at the entrance to polling places?

How would you feel about that?
 

highland145

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Should the Klan be allowed to put on their sheets and wield clubs and hang out at the entrance to polling places?

How would you feel about that?
Depends on how they are treated by the law. If they get the free pass like these guys then treatment was fair and equal. (My logical answer)

Lock both their groups up. (My real answer)
 

actuarial

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I'm not saying the two are equal.

What I am ASKING is if the OP also has a problem with voter intimidation when it benefits the libs.

How intimidating can they be when they don't actually get to see what they write on the paper?
 

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Depends on how they are treated by the law. If they get the free pass like these guys then treatment was fair and equal. (My logical answer)

Lock both their groups up. (My real answer)

Well I think we have our next James O'Keefe video ;)