Letter from governor's archives cited as flip-flop on Medicare
See - It's not just me, it's the other candidates
CkG
See - It's not just me, it's the other candidates
CkG
Rivals continue to pick apart Dean's record
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Yawn. More Dean bashing from Sir Caddy.Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Letter from governor's archives cited as flip-flop on Medicare
See - It's not just me, it's the other candidates
CkG
Let me see if I got this straight, Dean says something must be done to keep Medicare solvent while maintaining the government program as permanent public institution . . . so that means he can never propose any intervention except "spend more money."
Well no, but everytime a republican mentions reform, they get accused of wanting to throw seniors off a cliff.
I read the link and I still can't see what Dean did wrong. Anyone want to clue me into how it is bad to want hospitals to keep cost down which the hospital was doing with out the goverments help.
I cant think of anything wrong with the proposal. Other than it might likely shrink a bloated ineffecient goverment program, and the Dems just hate that.
So wouldn't a more appropriate thread title be . . . "Rivals continue petty charges against Dean record" . . . ?
They have never allowed a republican such a headline when they offer medicare reform. Why should dean get special treatment.
Take it up with the Boston Globe. I just cut/pasted it.
I think the biggest issue, Spencer278 - is that it looks like he flip-flopped according to what he is saying...and what he said once. I'm not sure that's going to bite him much since I don't think Medi-care is going to be a big voting issue for the caucuses.
CkG
It may have something to with guilt by association. In the same manner that moderates within the Donkey party are tarred with charges of socialized medicine and government regulation . . . many moderates in the Elephant party are associated with elimination of the Department of Health and Human Services.
Just like many moderates in the donkey party are for the expansion of every goverment program in existance.
Well while the overspending in washington is bad, the donkey party has proposed hundreds of billions in new spending that did not get passed. It would be nice to see more fiscal discipline from both the donkeys and elephants.
Everytime an elephant proposes spending cuts or program reform, there is a loud cry about elephants pushing seniors off cliffs. Looks like Dean is learning this right now.
It takes a lot of huevos to criticize the donkeys while the lead elephant is asking for -- not just $87 billion -- but $87 billion in addition to the regular budget. I'm no fan of Reagan because I think he spent recklessly. But if I get to blame Reagan (and not Congress) for all the spending, I guess I have to credit him with breaking the Soviet Union. Alas, I don't think GW will be so constructive.
The USSR crumbled under the weight of failed domestic and foreign policy. Anybody could have been US President and watched the specter fade to black.
On the otherhand, Bush et al have no one to blame for their mismanagement. The GOP Congress was clipping along at 8%+ increases in year over year spending while Clinton was in office. Now that we have conservative leadership from the White House, they spend just as much . . . except we now spend our "Peace Dividend" waging war against an amorphous enemy with no prospect for victory or armistice. For the first time in quite some time, we have less than rosey relations with our northern AND southern neighbors . . . not to mention most of Europe, most of Africa, and most of Asia.
The Donkey can kiss my pooper b/c they've been laying turds for decades . . . but the modern neo-con GOP has taken budgetary ineptitude to a new level . . . I just wish some real conservatives would insist they stop digging.
On the otherhand, Bush et al have no one to blame for their mismanagement. The GOP Congress was clipping along at 8%+ increases in year over year spending while Clinton was in office. Now that we have conservative leadership from the White House, they spend just as much . . . except we now spend our "Peace Dividend" waging war against an amorphous enemy with no prospect for victory or armistice. For the first time in quite some time, we have less than rosey relations with our northern AND southern neighbors . . . not to mention most of Europe, most of Africa, and most of Asia.
The Donkey can kiss my pooper b/c they've been laying turds for decades . . . but the modern neo-con GOP has taken budgetary ineptitude to a new level . . . I just wish some real conservatives would insist they stop digging.
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Yawn. More Dean bashing from Sir Caddy.Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Letter from governor's archives cited as flip-flop on Medicare
See - It's not just me, it's the other candidates
CkG
Yawn. Bush Bashing from Sir Bow is fine.
Originally posted by: bjc112
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Yawn. More Dean bashing from Sir Caddy.Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Letter from governor's archives cited as flip-flop on Medicare
See - It's not just me, it's the other candidates
CkG
Yawn. Bush Bashing from Sir Bow is fine.
Yawn...more crap from the guy who hasn't eaten his words about WMD yet like he said he would? You know...here.
The fact that Cad is so interested in Dean and the other democratic candidates so early before the election leads me to believe he is a bit concerned that they might actually *gasp* beat Bush... :Q
Originally posted by: Insane3D
The fact that Cad is so interested in Dean and the other democratic candidates so early before the election leads me to believe he is a bit concerned that they might actually *gasp* beat Bush... :Q
Not in the least.
Nice try though.
CkG
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Insane3D
The fact that Cad is so interested in Dean and the other democratic candidates so early before the election leads me to believe he is a bit concerned that they might actually *gasp* beat Bush... :Q
Not in the least.
Nice try though.
CkG
I dunno Cad, you do seem to have a bit of Dean fixation lately....it was Clark before. Hmmm...maybe Cad is a closet Dem? :Q
Nah, Cad's fascination w/ Dean lately is a product of the satisfaction he derives from posting nitpicky stuff about the Democrats in response to the same kinda posts about Bush. It's a balance thing.
Or maybe because it's in the news that I read, and since there are so many left of center people here - I figure they might want to stay abreast of the latest news about their candidates
CkG
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