Risen (another reason you need a 5870)

jonks

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Well it's an rpg, not an fps. 30fps is plenty. my 260-16 is gonna be with me for awhile.

And I don't trust the Gothic devs to code something that won't crash every 15 minutes or be otherwise buggy as hell. I'll grab Risen in 2011 after the community is well on the way to fixing it with patches.

As the link says, you can even play with a 9600gt at 1680x1050.
 

shortylickens

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I wouldnt run 1280 x 1024 0AA 16XAF. I'd run 2xAF max. My 4890 will be fine for now.
And frankly I've always been more concerned about gameplay. If Deus Ex 3 sucks and StarCraft 2 is unimpressive, I wont give a damn about keeping up my gaming system anymore. Risen is not high on my list.
 

WaitingForNehalem

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The game is a console port and was confirmed by the company that the 360 was the lead platform. There isn't even a HUD do to it being console focused.
 

alcoholbob

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It's not even close to Crysis, minimum 27fps with a GTX285? Try 15 on Crysis with the same settings.
 

CottonRabbit

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Unimpressive for the amount of graphical power it sucks up. Its most likely just a bad job of porting.
 

CP5670

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Does it actually look good? There are many games out there that run terribly but also look like crap.
 

JoshGuru7

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Graphics card benchmarks that don't include SLI and CrossFire configurations are beyond meaningless for me. They must not have had a GTX 295 to test with?
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: JoshGuru7
Graphics card benchmarks that don't include SLI and CrossFire configurations are beyond meaningless for me. They must not have had a GTX 295 to test with?

Have to agree. And those minimums aren't too terrible for any card. Consistent frame rates all round, although higher is always nicer.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: JoshGuru7
Graphics card benchmarks that don't include SLI and CrossFire configurations are beyond meaningless for me. They must not have had a GTX 295 to test with?

Who cares about multiple cards.
 

JoshGuru7

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: JoshGuru7
Graphics card benchmarks that don't include SLI and CrossFire configurations are beyond meaningless for me. They must not have had a GTX 295 to test with?

Who cares about multiple cards.
I do, which is why I said that benchmarks without them are meaningless for me. If you're morally opposed to the idea of multiple video cards then that's really super, but often SLI or Crossfire configurations are the highest bang for your buck at a given price point.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: JoshGuru7
I do, which is why I said that benchmarks without them are meaningless for me. If you're morally opposed to the idea of multiple video cards then that's really super, but often SLI or Crossfire configurations are the highest bang for your buck at a given price point.

So you're route is to SLi/Criossfire a pair of budget cards?
 

Zenoth

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When we have multi-platform games being used for "PC Gaming" benchmarks... we have a little problem I say.
 

Glitchny

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: WraithETC
This one joins the ranks with Crysis and STALKER clear skies.

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so its a graphics tech demo with shitty gameplay?

lol but crysis looks good... just boring and mindless and generic as every other bad fps. FPS must = king of games. bleh.
 

JoshGuru7

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: JoshGuru7
I do, which is why I said that benchmarks without them are meaningless for me. If you're morally opposed to the idea of multiple video cards then that's really super, but often SLI or Crossfire configurations are the highest bang for your buck at a given price point.

So you're route is to SLi/Criossfire a pair of budget cards?
Example
 

WaitingForNehalem

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Originally posted by: Zenoth
When we have multi-platform games being used for "PC Gaming" benchmarks... we have a little problem I say.

Yeah, the current state of PC gaming is pitiful.
 
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SlitheryDee

Without any huge differences in minimum and maximum frames that game will play well on a lot of cards. I can deal with a much lower average fps if there are no distractingly large slowdowns.
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: JoshGuru7
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: JoshGuru7
I do, which is why I said that benchmarks without them are meaningless for me. If you're morally opposed to the idea of multiple video cards then that's really super, but often SLI or Crossfire configurations are the highest bang for your buck at a given price point.

So you're route is to SLi/Criossfire a pair of budget cards?
Example

The best bang for the buck is almost never SLI/Crossfire, even with multiple budget cards. SLI/Crossfire budget cards will usually get outperformed by a higher end card that would have cost you less money than buying both lower end cards. Not to mention you won't have the problems and glitches common with multiple video cards.

Risen is up on Steam for 44.99, with a full retail price of 49.99. If its a bug ridden mess, I hope that drops very quickly into a more appropriate pricing range.
 

ShawnD1

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Doesn't even look that good.
I wonder what happened to the idea of artistic style. Games like World of Warcraft are a perfect example of style. While technically horrible, the game still looks great because it has bright colors and certain parts are rendered at high quality (your character) while other things are rendered at very low quality (monsters). Screenshots for this new game are technically nice but there's no style; it looks boring. It's incredibly hard to justify buying a video card for games like Risen when running the game at high quality doesn't make it any nicer to look at.
 

JoshGuru7

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
The best bang for the buck is almost never SLI/Crossfire, even with multiple budget cards.
The article you quoted largely asserts the contrary and for the most part I agree with their recommendations. What's the point of stating general disagreement with specific assertions?