Ripping DVD without converting
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Usually DVDs are very large(4.7GB). Are you sure you want to keep it as an MPEG2 file?
There are plenty of tools around that will do what you want, as well as remove encryption.
I use SmartRipper. It's a great program with lots of options.
There are plenty of tools around that will do what you want, as well as remove encryption.
I use SmartRipper. It's a great program with lots of options.
Aren't the contents of a DVD file contained in the .vob files? There's usually several of them on a DVD, each about 2 gig in size IIRC. You can use PowerDVD to open the .vob files to watch 'em, I think that's the closest to letting other people watch a DVD in its purest form w/o any sort of compression like DivX.
Dude, a DVD will range from 4-8+GB, and that's just for the movie (no extras). If you have typical broadband (128Kbps up), it will take FOREVER for the other person to download from you. And this is not taking into consideration how much hard drive space all these movies are going to take up. My advise, you better learn how to compress your DVDs to DivX. 
Yes, DVDs have a maximum of 1GB *.vob files. So in a normal movie (1.5 - 2hrs) you'll have at least 4 *.vob files, each being a maximum of 1GB. You can use PowerDVD or WinDVD to add them all to a list and watch them in sequence, but you'll notice when you go from one vob file to the next.
>> I want to rip a DVD video disk and let people download it from my website. I want it in a single file and in the original format (mpeg 2?). Is it possible?
Possible yes.
Do you want to do this? No.
First off, there is a 1 gb cap on vob files. Most computers will happily ignore this. Most DVD Players will not. Also, don't forget about DeCSS.
Second option, converting it to a .mpg wrapper. First problem: The two audio standards you usually see on DVD's, AC3 and SDDS (DTS), will not mux with a .mpg file. The 5.1 standard for mpeg-2 streams is almost unsupported (AAC 1.0 I believe?), and using it is tricky, plus dealing with 5.1 audio is a big pain, and almost impossible without professional tools like Sonic Foundry Softencode.
Of course, since you don't have any quams about the legality apparently, I assume you can get said software.
Your best bet is converting it from a mpeg-2 stream to mpeg-4 or something like DivX or XVid. AAC 2.0 (the standard for mpeg-4 audio) fully supports multi channel audio. You can mux ogm with .avi files, which currently is the most popular way to do multi channel audio in .avi files. AAC 2.0 unfornatly will not mux with .avi, although AC3 will (but getting the necessarly decoders can be a pain).
I am assuming a *LOT* of the above is too much work, but why do you want to host a 4.7 gig file? Is there a reason you must keep the quality at this level?
-Chu
Possible yes.
Do you want to do this? No.
First off, there is a 1 gb cap on vob files. Most computers will happily ignore this. Most DVD Players will not. Also, don't forget about DeCSS.
Second option, converting it to a .mpg wrapper. First problem: The two audio standards you usually see on DVD's, AC3 and SDDS (DTS), will not mux with a .mpg file. The 5.1 standard for mpeg-2 streams is almost unsupported (AAC 1.0 I believe?), and using it is tricky, plus dealing with 5.1 audio is a big pain, and almost impossible without professional tools like Sonic Foundry Softencode.
Of course, since you don't have any quams about the legality apparently, I assume you can get said software.
Your best bet is converting it from a mpeg-2 stream to mpeg-4 or something like DivX or XVid. AAC 2.0 (the standard for mpeg-4 audio) fully supports multi channel audio. You can mux ogm with .avi files, which currently is the most popular way to do multi channel audio in .avi files. AAC 2.0 unfornatly will not mux with .avi, although AC3 will (but getting the necessarly decoders can be a pain).
I am assuming a *LOT* of the above is too much work, but why do you want to host a 4.7 gig file? Is there a reason you must keep the quality at this level?
-Chu
First of...nothing can replace the qualityof the dvd in its original state...
That being said...
Divx can reduce that 4-8gig file often to 700-800mb with decent quality video and mp3 audio....
HOwever a compressing it to fit on 2 cds can often produce a file that is quite stunning....Even overlay the ac3 audio track using nanub or virtualdub...
At this time these divx files can only b eplayed back on a pc....Talk is divx 5.0 codec may become the format that standalone players may supprot in the very near future. Otherwise a good vid crad with tv-out can play these files on most tvs...(I like nvidia tv-out better then my current ATI attrocity)
That being said...
Divx can reduce that 4-8gig file often to 700-800mb with decent quality video and mp3 audio....
HOwever a compressing it to fit on 2 cds can often produce a file that is quite stunning....Even overlay the ac3 audio track using nanub or virtualdub...
At this time these divx files can only b eplayed back on a pc....Talk is divx 5.0 codec may become the format that standalone players may supprot in the very near future. Otherwise a good vid crad with tv-out can play these files on most tvs...(I like nvidia tv-out better then my current ATI attrocity)
Does Smart Ripper let me merge those vob files into one single file? If yes, can it viewed by Windows Media Player?
Don't worry, I have a 10M connection which is already the fastest available for home user in HK.
Ok, all I want is rip the DVD as a single file and without converting (no divx, avi or real) so that people can open my video even if they use Windows Media 6.4. Is all these things possible?
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Ok, all I want is rip the DVD as a single file and without converting (no divx, avi or real) so that people can open my video even if they use Windows Media 6.4. Is all these things possible?
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I think your very confused.
1. Without converting, WM 6.4, or 7.0, or 8.0 cannot read vobs, or ANY mpeg2 stream without certain plugins. These plugins are MUCH harder to install then divx of xvid.
2. 'ripping' a DVD usually means one of two things. Either getting the actuial vobs off the DVD and decrypting them, or the full process (i.e. going from vobs to the final product). In the first case, your almost gaurenteed to be dealing with more then one vob for anything over 10 minutes, so without converting your end up with more then one file. In the second case, well, you are obviously doing some conversion, so this is out too.
3. If you merge the vobs -- they are no longer in spec. VOB's can be no larger then a gig.
4. The only codec gaurenteed to be opened with WM 6.4 and is easy to deal with is raw avi, which at dvd resolutions is gigabytes per second.
Instead of telling us what you think you need -- why not tell us what your using this for? I think your very confused about something . . . because your questions show a lack of knowledge about how digital video in windows really works.
-Chu
Ok, all I want is rip the DVD as a single file and without converting (no divx, avi or real) so that people can open my video even if they use Windows Media 6.4. Is all these things possible?
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I think your very confused.
1. Without converting, WM 6.4, or 7.0, or 8.0 cannot read vobs, or ANY mpeg2 stream without certain plugins. These plugins are MUCH harder to install then divx of xvid.
2. 'ripping' a DVD usually means one of two things. Either getting the actuial vobs off the DVD and decrypting them, or the full process (i.e. going from vobs to the final product). In the first case, your almost gaurenteed to be dealing with more then one vob for anything over 10 minutes, so without converting your end up with more then one file. In the second case, well, you are obviously doing some conversion, so this is out too.
3. If you merge the vobs -- they are no longer in spec. VOB's can be no larger then a gig.
4. The only codec gaurenteed to be opened with WM 6.4 and is easy to deal with is raw avi, which at dvd resolutions is gigabytes per second.
Instead of telling us what you think you need -- why not tell us what your using this for? I think your very confused about something . . . because your questions show a lack of knowledge about how digital video in windows really works.
-Chu
>1. Without converting, WM 6.4, or 7.0, or 8.0 cannot read vobs, or ANY mpeg2 stream without certain plugins.
Are u sure? Oh, I thought WM 6.4 support mpeg2, if not, I think mpeg1 will work. But I need to convert it first.
> without converting your end up with more then one file.
How about merge them?
> 3. If you merge the vobs -- they are no longer in spec. VOB's can be no larger then a gig.
But mpeg can be more then a gig.
4. The only codec gaurenteed to be opened with WM 6.4 and is easy to deal with is raw avi, which at dvd resolutions is gigabytes per second.
How about mpeg 1 used in VCD?
> Instead of telling us what you think you need -- why not tell us what your using this for?
Just want people to get the movie from my web site.
> I think your very confused about something . . . because your questions show a lack of knowledge about how digital video in windows really works.
Right, I'm new to this DVD thing. I don't even have a DVD drive before, but I will get one.
Are u sure? Oh, I thought WM 6.4 support mpeg2, if not, I think mpeg1 will work. But I need to convert it first.
> without converting your end up with more then one file.
How about merge them?
> 3. If you merge the vobs -- they are no longer in spec. VOB's can be no larger then a gig.
But mpeg can be more then a gig.
4. The only codec gaurenteed to be opened with WM 6.4 and is easy to deal with is raw avi, which at dvd resolutions is gigabytes per second.
How about mpeg 1 used in VCD?
> Instead of telling us what you think you need -- why not tell us what your using this for?
Just want people to get the movie from my web site.
> I think your very confused about something . . . because your questions show a lack of knowledge about how digital video in windows really works.
Right, I'm new to this DVD thing. I don't even have a DVD drive before, but I will get one.
cyberttc, why don't you just give me a call and we can sort this out. Give me a PM.
Make sure you turn on your PMs.
Make sure you turn on your PMs.
It's a near certainty that it's copyrighted. How many people have non-copyrighted MPEG-2 formatted DVD videos (or have permission from the copyright holder) who want to rip the DVD and make it available for friends to download from a website? Slim possibility that it's his own stuff, but then I'd expect him to know a little more about it if he was able to make a DVD in the first place. Slimmer possibility a friend made it and gave it to him, but then I'd expect him to just ask the friend about it. How many people reading this thread had the first thought that it was copyrighted and he wanted to just rip and share a movie, and how many first thought that it was probably something he had permission to do?
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It's a near certainty that it's copyrighted. How many people have non-copyrighted MPEG-2 formatted DVD videos (or have permission from the copyright holder) who want to rip the DVD and make it available for friends to download from a website? Slim possibility that it's his own stuff, but then I'd expect him to know a little more about it if he was able to make a DVD in the first place. Slimmer possibility a friend made it and gave it to him, but then I'd expect him to just ask the friend about it. How many people reading this thread had the first thought that it was copyrighted and he wanted to just rip and share a movie, and how many first thought that it was probably something he had permission to do?
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Note that if he does live in Hong Kong, this is legal there, if the movie is not licenced in that region.
-Chu
It's a near certainty that it's copyrighted. How many people have non-copyrighted MPEG-2 formatted DVD videos (or have permission from the copyright holder) who want to rip the DVD and make it available for friends to download from a website? Slim possibility that it's his own stuff, but then I'd expect him to know a little more about it if he was able to make a DVD in the first place. Slimmer possibility a friend made it and gave it to him, but then I'd expect him to just ask the friend about it. How many people reading this thread had the first thought that it was copyrighted and he wanted to just rip and share a movie, and how many first thought that it was probably something he had permission to do?
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Note that if he does live in Hong Kong, this is legal there, if the movie is not licenced in that region.
-Chu
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