RIP Captcha's (test used to determine if the user was human)

[JEDI]

http://money.cnn.com/interactive/technology/dead-tech-products/?hpt=hp_c4

google says robots were able to solve them with 99.8% accuracy, even when humans struggled with them.


wow.. never imagined 99.8% accuracy.

so now that Captcha's are dead, how to prevent robo users from creating accts?
or we cant?


/Welcome Skynet overlords?


edit for those who don't know:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA

 

[amdhunter]

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

The answer to Captcha's demise is captcha's that ask the user super easy questions that a robo can't answer. I've seen Ticketmaster do this when I was trying to buy one time.

 

[Rakehellion]

How does it work?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

How does it work?

Few examples:

 

[Rakehellion]

No, I mean how does this one work? http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/12/are-you-robot-introducing-no-captcha.html

Google has a CAPTCHA where all you do is click a checkbox. How does that work?

 

[zerocool84]

Few examples:

The answer also could be Soylent Green because we don't know that it's people so someone may think it's vegetarian.

 

[glenn1]

so now that Captcha's are dead, how to prevent robo users from creating accts?
or we cant?

Eliminate opaque pricing that gives different prices to different users (e.g. airlines) or a small amount of artificially low price merchandize (e.g. concert tickets) and robo accounts would be a non-issue.

 

[Jaskalas]

wow.. never imagined 99.8% accuracy.

I'd be lucky to have a 50% accuracy. I swear I've repeated everything accurately but those damn Captcha's always tell me to f'off!

 

[NikolaeVarius]

No, I mean how does this one work? http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/12/are-you-robot-introducing-no-captcha.html

Google has a CAPTCHA where all you do is click a checkbox. How does that work?

The explanation is literally in the link you posted

 

[PliotronX]

The explanation is literally in the link you posted

He probably meant from the backend which wasn't really explained anywhere in the page but I am glad that it is not widely advertised because it would become a game of cat and mouse with the botmakers. A little mystery helps here.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I have to say, I've never seen captchas a easy to solve as the examples posted. They've always been random letters and numbers. Occasionally, capitalization was even a factor.

 

[wabbitslayer]

yes! yes! yes! yes! yes!

I HATE those damn things. Give me a question, a math equation or something, do not give me a damn illegible, barely visible bunch of random letters to try and decipher

 

[Remobz]

I always had trouble with capthas and hated them with a passion.

 

[phucheneh]

yes! yes! yes! yes! yes!

I HATE those damn things. Give me a question, a math equation or something, do not give me a damn illegible, barely visible bunch of random letters to try and decipher

Because computers DEFINITELY can't solve math equations...

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

How is 99.8% recognition possible when the best any hand writing recognition out there can do is about 92% after being 'trained?' Maybe they should hire the hackers.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I'd be lucky to have a 50% accuracy. I swear I've repeated everything accurately but those damn Captcha's always tell me to f'off!

this.

some of the captchas were godawful.

 

[dawp]

No, I mean how does this one work? http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/12/are-you-robot-introducing-no-captcha.html

Google has a CAPTCHA where all you do is click a checkbox. How does that work?

my understanding is it tracks the motion of the cursor and can differentiate between living and robotic.

 

[Nashemon]

Unless I misunderstand what a CAPTCHA is, I refuse to believe this. jdownloader (the automated downloading queue application) is incapable of automatically bypassing certain CAPTCHAs. Sure there are simple ones that 99.8% robot guessing accuracy seems reasonable, but there are some out there that are way more difficult, and jdownloader has yet to figure out a method of reading.

These new methods (reCAPTCHA's as Google is calling them) are still CAPTCHAs.

 

[TheVrolok]

I'd be lucky to have a 50% accuracy. I swear I've repeated everything accurately but those damn Captcha's always tell me to f'off!

This.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Because computers DEFINITELY can't solve math equations...

Actually, they can't. While computers can easily solve graphical captcha problem that stonewall most humans they struggle with simple math problems that are asked properly.

"Type out the answer to fifteen divided by 3" is sufficiently challenging to stump most registration bots. Even though a computer knows the answer to 15/3 when asked that way requiring that type of answer it's very effective.

 

[Ken g6]

my understanding is it tracks the motion of the cursor and can differentiate between living and robotic.

I'm not sure, but that's my guess as well. But that's not necessarily a guarantee that a user is human, so there's a secondary question like GagHalfrunt's for cases that don't appear to pass the cursor test. As bots get smarter, I expect that to expand to near 100% of cases. :\

 

[marvdmartian]

The ones I've seen lately were house numbers, photographed. So it's not able to be read by machines, I guess. Would imagine they are using stills from Google's street view vehicle, or something similar.

 

[Jeff7]

Oh, good. That's Symbian. I thought it said Sybian. That would have been a truly tragic loss.



And Windows 7? Jesus, most of the new industrial equipment purchased where I work is running Windows XP. (Yes, new. One of them was fresh off the assembly line in early December.) Some of the companies won't even commit to a timeline to update any of the drivers for a newer operating system.

How is 99.8% recognition possible when the best any hand writing recognition out there can do is about 92% after being 'trained?' Maybe they should hire the hackers.

Maybe that was the endgame. Now the world has excellent text-deciphering technology available to it, and it was by burdening assholes who are otherwise nothing more than a drain on society.

So we just need to figure out how to solve more problems by turning them into barriers between spammers and the rest of society. Folding@Spam or something like that - every solved Captcha sort of thing helps figure out the workings of a protein molecule.



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[John Connor]

Yes, the traditional capcha system is broken and has been known now. Google's has got to be the worst I have ever seen. Try to register at my forum and see what I got. See sig below.