Riots without responsibility - paying the price for the entitlement culture

[KMFJD]

One thing we did right by our younger generation is to teach them to recognize and reject abuse by those in postions of power and authority.

This is the real reason youth are rioting. You cannot deny that our government and corporate businesses are entirely corrupt. Just look at the financial crisis we are in now.

All of what you see now is because of those in power. So don't be so blase in assuming the youth are just ignorant and misguided.

Yo guvmnt be denying me a large tv..I be protesting by looting meself one

 

[Abwx]

Yo guvmnt be denying me a large tv..I be protesting by looting meself one

Damn right...
Your gov. deny you a the right to have a job with a decent salary...

That s what happen when monetarist policy use unemployement
as the only mean to reduce an inflation that is caused by
the wealthy ability to control the markets....

 

[Vic Vega]

Damn right...
Your gov. deny you a the right to have a job with a decent salary...

That s what happen when monetarist policy use unemployement
as the only mean to reduce an inflation that is caused by
the wealthy ability to control the markets....

LOL

This is not a right. Not anywhere in the world.

 

[Abwx]

LOL

This is not a right. Not anywhere in the world.

Europe , including the UK , use unemployement as the sole variable
to fight inflation , and as such , unemployement real rates are
roughly 10% , peaking at 20/30% rate for the younger people.

Expect quite a lot of people to develloppe a culture of the marginality
as some kind of rejection of the system they consider is discriminating them from the start.

Indeed , the royal obscenely insane wedding that did cost
bns to UK is just an evidence of the higher cast contemp
towards the basic citizen , be it a worker or an unemplyed youth.

 

[Doppel]

A few posters on here would make sh*t parents if they would parenting like they view these thieving thugs.

 

[Ancalagon44]

Europe , including the UK , use unemployement as the sole variable
to fight inflation , and as such , unemployement real rates are
roughly 10% , peaking at 20/30% rate for the younger people.

Expect quite a lot of people to develloppe a culture of the marginality
as some kind of rejection of the system they consider is discriminating them from the start.

Indeed , the royal obscenely insane wedding that did cost
bns to UK is just an evidence of the higher cast contemp
towards the basic citizen , be it a worker or an unemplyed youth.

But how does it discriminate against them? How are they prevented from finding work?

Lets review the facts - they get free or subsidized education, and get a living allowance if they are unable to find work. What part of that is discriminatory against them?

The royal family now pays taxes just like us, remember they also bring in revenue due to tourism. And Heat magazine sales!

One day's benefit payout to lazy layabout louts is more money than that royal wedding, so I'm not sure why you mention it. And people pay to see a royal wedding, they would not pay to see a lazy layabout lout fight his lazy layabout friend about which football team is better.

 

[Vic Vega]

Europe , including the UK , use unemployement as the sole variable
to fight inflation , and as such , unemployement real rates are
roughly 10% , peaking at 20/30% rate for the younger people.

Expect quite a lot of people to develloppe a culture of the marginality
as some kind of rejection of the system they consider is discriminating them from the start.

Indeed , the royal obscenely insane wedding that did cost
bns to UK is just an evidence of the higher cast contemp
towards the basic citizen , be it a worker or an unemplyed youth.

You're delusional.

 

[Abwx]

Lets review the facts - they get free or subsidized education, and get a living allowance if they are unable to find work. What part of that is discriminatory against them?

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My sister lives in London and in matter of schools , what did strike her
was that the public high school (?) (from 15 to 18) were we were both
educated in France has no public equivalent in UK and that such good
quality schools exist only as private institutes whose annual cost is at
least 15K£/pupil....

It tells a lot about the UK casts system...

 

[Mem]

My sister lives in London and in matter of schools , what did strike her
was that the public high school (?) (from 15 to 18) were we were both
educated in France has no public equivalent in UK and that such good
quality schools exist only as private institutes whose annual cost is at
least 15K£/pupil....

It tells a lot about the UK casts system...

I went to comprehensive school years ago then RAF College and even public college after that here in UK.

About 90% of British pupils attend comprehensive schools.

Most comprehensives are secondary schools for children between the ages of 11 to at least 19, but in a few areas there are comprehensive middle schools, and in some places the secondary level is divided into two, for students aged 11 to 14 and those aged 14 to 19, roughly corresponding to the US middle school (or junior high school) and high school, respectively.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_school

I keep hearing this caste system which is pure FUD,everybody is treated equally and everybody has access.

 

[Ausm]

It's in the second last sentence.

He can only comprehend and regurgitate Right Wing talking points.

 

[Lithium381]

No such thing as personal responsibility anymore...... it's always someone elses' fault. Right on TV all of the politicians play that game, and the ghetto-fabulous always have someone to blame for their ineptitude. These kids don't realize that what they're doing actually affects other people

 

[Lithium381]

or maybe they do realize it and they just don't care, which is probably worse...

 

[Fear No Evil]

I think that having a solid welfare state does create some "sponging" morons, but that's just a very small negative we have to put up with for such a great system.

The system where you burn your country to the ground?

 

[Throckmorton]

The system where you burn your country to the ground?

Because America doesn't have riots?

 

[Howard]

Because America doesn't have riots?

Nice deflect

 

[IGBT]

boohoo entitlement riots..coming to a neighborhood near YOU. Guaranteed. All obama supporters.

 

[drebo]

Hang on a minute....

They're bitching about people not taking responsibility for their actions while not laying the responsibility of the riots on the people who actually did the riots? It's not the hoodlums' faults, it's society's fault?

This is just more bullshit. Throw the fuckers in jail and never let them out.

 

[squirrel dog]

well,round here most have guns and will use them.

 

[werepossum]

well,round here most have guns and will use them.

Exactly.

"We're gonna take your stuff!"

"Yeah, well, the first thirteen of you are going to take exactly 135 grains of my stuff, at 1,200 feet per second. Oh, I see you've changed your mind."

 

[HAL9000]

The system where you burn your country to the ground?

Google us, the country is still up and running.

 

[woolfe9999]

LOL @ people claiming these riots are about "entitlement mentality" in this thread, and in another, claiming they are "riots" for no political cause at all. It can't be both.

Incidentally, we in the US have more "entitlement mentality" than exists anywhere else in the first world, where they have much wider and deeper social safety nets. There's a reason for it, and it clearly isn't the existence of any of these government programs.

 

[Abwx]

I went to comprehensive school years ago then RAF College and even public college after that here in UK.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_school

I keep hearing this caste system which is pure FUD,everybody is treated equally and everybody has access.

Putting together pupils aged from 11 to 19 ?..
That s a joke ?..

System in France and Germany :

3-6 : Maternal school
6-11 : Elementary school
11-15 : College
15-18 : Lycee (high school in US?) with a degree that must be
performed at the end of the last year and wich give right to subscribe
in universities.

Public schools are in both named countries far better than private ones,
wich is hardly the case in the UK.

 

[HAL9000]

Damn right...
Your gov. deny you a the right to have a job with a decent salary...

:hmm: No they don't.

 

[classy]

I don't agree with much of that. Its not the programs of entitlement, but its the culture of violence. Here in the US and England as well, we have embraced a culture that is continuously bombarded with the mindset of responding to every situation with violence. How many threads do we read here where people will say that a person should die for just silly stuff. We will embrace the Sopranos and let our 13 year olds watch The Wire, then wonder why they are caught up in some violent situation.

 

[werepossum]

I don't agree with much of that. Its not the programs of entitlement, but its the culture of violence. Here in the US and England as well, we have embraced a culture that is continuously bombarded with the mindset of responding to every situation with violence. How many threads do we read here where people will say that a person should die for just silly stuff. We will embrace the Sopranos and let our 13 year olds watch The Wire, then wonder why they are caught up in some violent situation.

Excellent point.