Riots or Protests?
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They don't have a message at all. Their targets are shops. They aren't spending their time attacking corporate headquarters or Parliament. The people saying they're doing it to protest society or whatever have no evidence of that.
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I completely agree, when they do get interviewed on TV they say they are doing this for fun etc. Morons.
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Hmm I'm not sure about that, I don't think there is any consensus in the UK that thinks that the guy didn't deserve to get shot.
Schadenfroh
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Any political statement that they once carried early on has long since been lost.
Now, the locals just want safety in the herd as they steal stereos and designer clothing FROM THE MAN. Then, they burn away any evidence that might be left behind.
Now, the locals just want safety in the herd as they steal stereos and designer clothing FROM THE MAN. Then, they burn away any evidence that might be left behind.
Police stations have confiscated drugs and weapons in them. You cannot get drugs and illegal weapons from looting your local shopping center. Also, it is only logical to try to stop those that are trying to prevent you from getting everything your entitled heart desires while having the time of your life.
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JSt0rm
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1. Then why ask?
2. I'm pretty sure you will find differing opinions in a country the size of the UK.
I make no judgements about the case or the police or any protestors. Rioting is bad, protesting is good.
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1. Because I'm interested to hear what other people on the forum think.
2. I'm sure that's true, but there's not enough people together who feel that way to protest IMO.
I doubt the looters are that organized.
Many of the grievances are directed towards the police forces. It is only logical to incapacitate them if they seek to express one of the many political elements of the protest.
I don't have information to say what's going on, but they're not mutually exclusive.
In 1968, the US had riots in black neighborhoods in different places in the US - burning blocks of cities. They were pretty clearly riots.
But there was a connection to the rage of the civil rights issues behind the riots. It had a clearly political nature as well, even if rioters you talked to would not say that much.
The President formed a presidential commission on the cause which helped identify that.
I'm trying to think of when a protest acted like a riot and was just 'political' without the people being a 'violent mob' caught up in violence for its own sake as well.
One indication: why the people went to the riot, and whether they're 'criminal' type people or not.
When they have employed middle class people, it seems likely there's a political issue.
I'm hearing from UK commentators that the austerity measures are probably contributing; that's seen a lot where they are forced on the public.
It doesn't mean people out in the street with signs, it often means people acting with rage and violence it seems.
The Dylan Rattigan show today has a discussion with US and UK people comparing the austerity issue and whether the US is at risk for similar rioting when there's a trigger.
In 1968, the US had riots in black neighborhoods in different places in the US - burning blocks of cities. They were pretty clearly riots.
But there was a connection to the rage of the civil rights issues behind the riots. It had a clearly political nature as well, even if rioters you talked to would not say that much.
The President formed a presidential commission on the cause which helped identify that.
I'm trying to think of when a protest acted like a riot and was just 'political' without the people being a 'violent mob' caught up in violence for its own sake as well.
One indication: why the people went to the riot, and whether they're 'criminal' type people or not.
When they have employed middle class people, it seems likely there's a political issue.
I'm hearing from UK commentators that the austerity measures are probably contributing; that's seen a lot where they are forced on the public.
It doesn't mean people out in the street with signs, it often means people acting with rage and violence it seems.
The Dylan Rattigan show today has a discussion with US and UK people comparing the austerity issue and whether the US is at risk for similar rioting when there's a trigger.
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Looting.
Edit: Perhaps it's not a huge distinction but a lot of people were out for free goods and nothing else. A riot usually has some political/socio-economic/sports related? roots. In other words a cause. Going out to get a free tv isn't really making a statement about anything other than the desire for free stuff.
Looting.
Edit: Perhaps it's not a huge distinction but a lot of people were out for free goods and nothing else. A riot usually has some political/socio-economic/sports related? roots. In other words a cause. Going out to get a free tv isn't really making a statement about anything other than the desire for free stuff.
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It's a riot.
The majority of good, British, folks hit the streets with brooms to clean up the mess left by the rioters, they are not joining in with the violence. There is no underlying political cause, it's a case of twisted entitlement where the poor believe themselves entitled to the luxury they see people with a job enjoy.
The police should crack down hard on these punks, social democracy does not give everyone the right to everything.
The majority of good, British, folks hit the streets with brooms to clean up the mess left by the rioters, they are not joining in with the violence. There is no underlying political cause, it's a case of twisted entitlement where the poor believe themselves entitled to the luxury they see people with a job enjoy.
The police should crack down hard on these punks, social democracy does not give everyone the right to everything.
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England is not Sweden , it s not a social democracy, even if the ruling
party claim to be a leftist one.
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England is not Sweden , it s not a social democracy, even if the ruling
party claim to be a leftist one.
What is that a map of?
We are a democracy. Also we have
two parties in power at
the moment, one is the right
wing one and the other
is the left / mid.
Why the bizarre
paragraphing?
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