Riots in brooklyn...

Goosemaster

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jist of it: old man pulled over for talking on cell phone, does not comply with police, resists arrest =riots


http://www.wnbc.com/news/8470269/detail.html

NEW YORK -- Hundreds of angry Hasidic Jews poured into the streets in Borough Park Tuesday night, snarling traffic and setting fires to protest the arrest of a senior member of their community.

The elderly man was arrested after being stopped for talking on his cell phone while driving, according to police. The man refused to hand over his license and registration, and the officers arrested him after a struggle, police said.

Police added that when they tried to take the man into custody, other people in the area interceded.

The arrest sparked an uproar in the Borough Park community, with irate men in traditional Hasidic garb packing the area around 47th Street and 16th Avenue, the intersection where the man was arrested. At least two bonfires burned after protesters ignited piles of cardboard boxes. Men threw more folded boxes onto the flames to make them stronger.

Police in riot gear arrived on the scene after Hasidim surrounded a cruiser, trapping an officer inside. The officer called for help when one of the windows was broken.

Shortly after the riot police arrived the protest lost intensity, but groups of men still milled about in the streets. The NYPD also dispatched a helicopter to the area to light up the streets with a powerful beam.

At one point, the mob blocked the passage of a tractor-trailer and a fire truck trying to put out one of the fires. A few scuffles broke out where protesters were standing shoulder-to-shoulder in the street.

Police said they initially cleared officers from the area to avoid further provoking the protesters.

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dopcombo

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is it illegal not to comply when you've already broken the law? in this case, talking on the cellphone while driving? (not sure if that's illegal in NY)
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: dopcombo
is it illegal not to comply when you've already broken the law? in this case, talking on the cellphone while driving? (not sure if that's illegal in NY)
yep, it's illegal in NY

but only for Hasidic Jews :roll:

 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: dopcombo
is it illegal not to comply when you've already broken the law? in this case, talking on the cellphone while driving? (not sure if that's illegal in NY)

It's a ticketable offense and I also believe it is illegal not to show proper identification when a police officer requests it after you broke the law.
 

darkxshade

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: dopcombo
is it illegal not to comply when you've already broken the law? in this case, talking on the cellphone while driving? (not sure if that's illegal in NY)
yep, it's illegal in NY


Plus the guy refused to hand over license and registration, he could've just eaten a ticket instead.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
The man refused to hand over his license and registration, and the officers arrested him after a struggle, police said.

The only relavent piece of information there.

got what he deserved.
 

ThePresence

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Bastards give all Jews a bad name.

<--Orthodox Jew

EDIT: They think they're in Israel, where this kind of thing happens daily.
 

lozina

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These guys probably went home that night, watched the news and then once they reaized the facts behind the incident were like: 'WTF were we thinking rioting because of THAT ?!'
 

Vich

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Laws apply to everyone. I live in an orthodox jewish community, and ive never seen anything like this.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Vich
Laws apply to everyone. I live in an orthodox jewish community, and ive never seen anything like this.

They are saying the police abused the 75 year old man during the arrest:

Here

At least three people are under arrest after hundreds took to the streets in a violent confrontation with police.

It started when officers pulled over an elderly driver for allegedly talking on his cell phone. When police say he refused to cooperate, the situation turned ugly. It started on 16th Avenue in Borough Park.
Eyewitness News reporter Lucy Yang is at the scene with more.

Smoke was rising from this Hasidic community as hundreds butted heads with police tonight. The neighborhood was thick was outrage.

Police are saying this was not a riot, it was not especially violent. However, we are told there were three arrests and two officers injured as authorities tried to quell a very tense night.

Raw, burning hostility raged on 16th Avenue in Borough Park as garbage fire lit the streets and riot police parted the crowds, forcing hundreds of residents back, thinning their ranks but not diluting their anger.

All of this erupted after a 75-year-old man, Arthur Schick, was pulled over by police for allegedly driving while on his cell phone. But what should have been a quick summons quickly disintegrated. Residents say officers were far too aggressive with the elderly man. The incident happened outside the Schick Bakery, which his family used to own.

Sariel Windawsky, owner of Schick's Bakery: "What I saw was Schick standing outside his car and the police officer threw him against the car, put his hand up behind his back and ... he was screaming 'I'm not resisting, I'm not resisting.'"

However, officials claim the man threw himself on the ground. He is now under arrest at the 66th Precinct.

Some residents claim this extreme reaction has been building, blaming the recent increase in tickets for the short fuse.

"This community has been hit very hard lately, the last half a year or so, all kinds of tickets," a member of the community said.
 

Zim Hosein

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Vich
Laws apply to everyone. I live in an orthodox jewish community, and ive never seen anything like this.

They are saying the police abused the 75 year old man during the arrest:

Here

At least three people are under arrest after hundreds took to the streets in a violent confrontation with police.

It started when officers pulled over an elderly driver for allegedly talking on his cell phone. When police say he refused to cooperate, the situation turned ugly. It started on 16th Avenue in Borough Park.
Eyewitness News reporter Lucy Yang is at the scene with more.

Smoke was rising from this Hasidic community as hundreds butted heads with police tonight. The neighborhood was thick was outrage.

Police are saying this was not a riot, it was not especially violent. However, we are told there were three arrests and two officers injured as authorities tried to quell a very tense night.

Raw, burning hostility raged on 16th Avenue in Borough Park as garbage fire lit the streets and riot police parted the crowds, forcing hundreds of residents back, thinning their ranks but not diluting their anger.

All of this erupted after a 75-year-old man, Arthur Schick, was pulled over by police for allegedly driving while on his cell phone. But what should have been a quick summons quickly disintegrated. Residents say officers were far too aggressive with the elderly man. The incident happened outside the Schick Bakery, which his family used to own.

Sariel Windawsky, owner of Schick's Bakery: "What I saw was Schick standing outside his car and the police officer threw him against the car, put his hand up behind his back and ... he was screaming 'I'm not resisting, I'm not resisting.'"

However, officials claim the man threw himself on the ground. He is now under arrest at the 66th Precinct.

Some residents claim this extreme reaction has been building, blaming the recent increase in tickets for the short fuse.

"This community has been hit very hard lately, the last half a year or so, all kinds of tickets," a member of the community said.

Welcome to NY! :roll:
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Welcome to NY! :roll:

Yup.

However they think they were wronged, rightly or wrongly, there is no place for these kinds of antics. They just hurt their cause.
 

Zim Hosein

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Welcome to NY! :roll:

Yup.

However they think they were wronged, rightly or wrongly, there is no place for these kinds of antics. They just hurt their cause.

What is their cause ThePresence? :confused:
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Welcome to NY! :roll:

Yup.

However they think they were wronged, rightly or wrongly, there is no place for these kinds of antics. They just hurt their cause.

What is their cause ThePresence? :confused:


Obviously showing their dissatisfaction with the police for roughing the old dude up.
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Welcome to NY! :roll:

Yup.

However they think they were wronged, rightly or wrongly, there is no place for these kinds of antics. They just hurt their cause.
Rightly wronged or wrongly wronged? :confused:

:p