Rings and things

[Alphathree33]

FACTS:
- Found a ring online that I want
- Just got back from a sizing session at the jewler - my right ring finger is a size 7.0
- The ring I want is listed as "Approx. Width: 6.0mm"
- The jeweler sized me on a 3.0mm band

QUESTION(S):
- Is this "Width" measurement a measure of the 'height' of the ring if the ring is thought of as a cylinder?
- If so, why do websites recommend going up a size for these 'wide band' rings? It seems akin to saying "your door isn't wide enough... make it taller!"

Like, if my finger is a size 7.0, shouldn't I be able to fit any size 7.0 ring on my finger whether it's a six inch cylinder or a little 3mm ring, as long as the diameter of the ring is size 7.0??

 

[Sphexi]

I would say order it a size 7, if it's too snug take it back to a jeweler and have them resize it. It's a simple thing to do, costs $20 or less usually.

 

[Alphathree33]

Originally posted by: Sphexi
I would say order it a size 7, if it's too snug take it back to a jeweler and have them resize it. It's a simple thing to do, costs $20 or less usually.

That doesn't really answer my question... also, this ring is titanium and the website explicitly states that the material is difficult to resize.

The ring is also kinda complex. I don't want to have to resize it.

I need to understand what this width measurement is and then I can order the right size in the first place

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Your fingers, like any other area covered in skin, can swell and most likely will if you're not used to wearing a ring. The reccommendation on getting the "next size up" in rings really depends on how the jeweler sized your finger. Did they tell you that 7.0 is the right size for you when you can barely get the damn thing off your finger? If that's the case, you'll want to consider rings bigger than 7, obviously. If your jeweler, like most jewelers, took your finger size and added a little right then, I'd say you're in good shape. For instance, if your finger really fits a 6.75 but they told you that you need to be wearing 7's, that's probably a good thing. However, if you had to use soap to get the 7.0 off your finger, just go to another jeweler to get resized

I think you had it right in your cylinder description, though. A wider ring would just cover more area between the knuckles where a bigger ring would fit a finger with a larger diameter.

 

[Alphathree33]

Originally posted by: Nik
Your fingers, like any other area covered in skin, can swell and most likely will if you're not used to wearing a ring. The reccommendation on getting the "next size up" in rings really depends on how the jeweler sized your finger. Did they tell you that 7.0 is the right size for you when you can barely get the damn thing off your finger? If that's the case, you'll want to consider rings bigger than 7, obviously. If your jeweler, like most jewelers, took your finger size and added a little right then, I'd say you're in good shape. For instance, if your finger really fits a 6.75 but they told you that you need to be wearing 7's, that's probably a good thing. However, if you had to use soap to get the 7.0 off your finger, just go to another jeweler to get resized

I think you had it right in your cylinder description, though. A wider ring would just cover more area between the knuckles where a bigger ring would fit a finger with a larger diameter.

Well the jeweler actually put a 6.75 and a 7.0 on my finger. The 6.75 was a bit too hard to get off (didn't involve soap though=), so she recommended the 7.0. That one I could get off with just a little bit of fudging on my part.

But that was with a band of 'width' 3.0mm. Is a band of width 6.0mm 'harder' to get off?

 

[xSauronx]

eh...

why didnt you ask the jeweler while you were there? and why dont you call and ask them when theyre open to get a reliable answer?

 

[Alchemist99]

I have a wee bit of knowledge in this department, he he.

Well first of all a good Jeweler will have two sets of finger sizers one at 3mm and one at six mm. Do to the unevenness of the shape of a human finger a wider ring will need to be slightly larger I would say a 1/4 to a half size. All fingers like people are unique even from one hand to the next and depending on the time of year, your water retention; medications, arthritic knuckles, etc etc are all factors that can influence size. But I digress, it is good to get an accurate measurement of your finger with the correct sizer for convenience and because some bands are not sizable or it may disrupt the pattern among other things.

The 6 mm is the width of a ring per say, and is not referring to the diameter, that is what the size # refers to.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Alphathree33

Originally posted by: Sphexi
I would say order it a size 7, if it's too snug take it back to a jeweler and have them resize it. It's a simple thing to do, costs $20 or less usually.

That doesn't really answer my question... also, this ring is titanium and the website explicitly states that the material is difficult to resize.

The ring is also kinda complex. I don't want to have to resize it.

I need to understand what this width measurement is and then I can order the right size in the first place

dude if you are that worried go try on a size 7 6mm band.

 

[Alchemist99]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Alphathree33

Originally posted by: Sphexi
I would say order it a size 7, if it's too snug take it back to a jeweler and have them resize it. It's a simple thing to do, costs $20 or less usually.

That doesn't really answer my question... also, this ring is titanium and the website explicitly states that the material is difficult to resize.

The ring is also kinda complex. I don't want to have to resize it.

I need to understand what this width measurement is and then I can order the right size in the first place

dude if you are that worried go try on a size 7 6mm band.

And if it doesn't fit? most Jewelry stores don't carry 1/4 and half sizes in bands. Also one more thing to note a comfort fit ring can fit slightly smaller than a ring that is flat on the inside. If you have any further question you can pm me

 

[jonessoda]

Rings are sized from internal diameter. A size 7 ring, if properly sized, will always fit a properly measured size 7 finger.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Alchemist99

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Alphathree33

Originally posted by: Sphexi
I would say order it a size 7, if it's too snug take it back to a jeweler and have them resize it. It's a simple thing to do, costs $20 or less usually.

That doesn't really answer my question... also, this ring is titanium and the website explicitly states that the material is difficult to resize.

The ring is also kinda complex. I don't want to have to resize it.

I need to understand what this width measurement is and then I can order the right size in the first place

dude if you are that worried go try on a size 7 6mm band.

And if it doesn't fit? most Jewelry stores don't carry 1/4 and half sizes in bands. Also one more thing to note a comfort fit ring can fit slightly smaller than a ring that is flat on the inside. If you have any further question you can pm me

now I get your he-he, you work in a Zales?

if a size 7 6mm band doesn't fit you'd go larger. Usually ppl getting comfort fit's mention that, but again a comfort fit is really sizing a narrower band due to design.

 

[Alchemist99]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Alchemist99

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Alphathree33

Originally posted by: Sphexi
I would say order it a size 7, if it's too snug take it back to a jeweler and have them resize it. It's a simple thing to do, costs $20 or less usually.

That doesn't really answer my question... also, this ring is titanium and the website explicitly states that the material is difficult to resize.

The ring is also kinda complex. I don't want to have to resize it.

I need to understand what this width measurement is and then I can order the right size in the first place

dude if you are that worried go try on a size 7 6mm band.

And if it doesn't fit? most Jewelry stores don't carry 1/4 and half sizes in bands. Also one more thing to note a comfort fit ring can fit slightly smaller than a ring that is flat on the inside. If you have any further question you can pm me

now I get your he-he, you work in a Zales?

if a size 7 6mm band doesn't fit you'd go larger. Usually ppl getting comfort fit's mention that, but again a comfort fit is really sizing a narrower band due to design.

Alkemyst, your such a wank, you just have to be right in everything don't you, over-compensating? You can stfu with your I'm the all know genius of everything attitude.
I could give my credentials, but arguing with you is pointless I would have to value your opinion to give it credibility, and I don't.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Alchemist99
Alkemyst, your such a wank, you just have to be right in everything don't you, over-compensating? You can stfu with your I'm the all know genius of everything attitude.
I could give my credentials, but arguing with you is pointless I would have to value your opinion to give it credibility, and I don't.

I am right you do work at Zales. I am no over compensating...as a matter of fact my wiener is average though. Is that how you judge your knowledge?

when you posted about 'finger sizers' you had no credentials.

I know a lot about diamonds...

bottom line getting sized for a ring is a no-brainer.

 

[Alchemist99]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Alchemist99
Alkemyst, your such a wank, you just have to be right in everything don't you, over-compensating? You can stfu with your I'm the all know genius of everything attitude.
I could give my credentials, but arguing with you is pointless I would have to value your opinion to give it credibility, and I don't.

I am right you do work at Zales. I am no over compensating...as a matter of fact my wiener is average though. Is that how you judge your knowledge?

when you posted about 'finger sizers' you had no credentials.

I know a lot about diamonds...

bottom line getting sized for a ring is a no-brainer.

Lol, who said anything about wieners? over-compensating could apply to whole range of shortcomings.

Do you know what finger sizers are? and that is the correct terminology.

Geting a ring sized or finger is not necessarily a no- brainer, In the business that I owned I had to deal with a very costly sizing error by one of my Goldsmiths to the tune of $12,000. To one who overestimates his knowledge I suppose it is a "no brainer"

Your way out of your league here, so keep bringing it, this is fun as you don't know jack about this subject.

 

[alkemyst]

please tell us how one of your goldsmiths cost you $12k with a sizing problem....

go you!

 

[Alchemist99]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
please tell us how one of your goldsmiths cost you $12k with a sizing problem....

go you!

Ok well it's quite simple really, one of my guys tried to size a ring from a 4 to a 7 it had a a split bezel design holding a 1.58 ct VS1 E the pressure from the expansion during sizing caused it to cleave from the girdle edge to the culet. Wholesale cost to replace around 12 grand.

So are you going to stfu now or do you have more silly question!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Alchemist99

Ok well it's quite simple really, one of my guys tried to size a ring from a 4 to a 7 it had a a split bezel design holding a 1.58 ct VS1 E the pressure from the expansion during sizing caused it to cleave from the girdle edge to the culet. Wholesale cost to replace around 12 grand.

So are you going to stfu now or do you have more silly question!

Sounds like not a sizing issue but the 'goldsmith' was a moron. This is why I don't use department store jewelry areas like your type. No knowledgeable people.

But if you say your the expert go right ahead.