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Rikers Island

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LuNoTiCK

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Me and my friend were arguing, I say it has both a prison and a jail and he swears it's only a jail. What is the maximum sentence that you could serve at Rikers Island?
 
only holds people awaiting trial, being people being transfered to other facilities, short term sentences (probably a year or less)
 
Are we talking about that place the duplicate of Will Riker that got made during a transporter accident lived? Because I thought that was a blasted out old star ship, not an island.
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
theres a difference between a prison and jail?
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basically the difference is just the severity of the crime and the time you are held in each facility. Jail is more for short-term holding and prison is for long term
 
Originally posted by: talyn00
Originally posted by: Anubis
theres a difference between a prison and jail?
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basically the difference is just the severity of the crime and the time you are held in each facility. Jail is more for short-term holding and prison is for long term
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interesting didnt know that,
 
Originally posted by: talyn00
Originally posted by: Anubis
theres a difference between a prison and jail?
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basically the difference is just the severity of the crime and the time you are held in each facility. Jail is more for short-term holding and prison is for long term
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There is also a small difference in the severity of the ass poundings you receive. Make no mistake though, both feature signifigant poundings.
 
Originally posted by: talyn00
Originally posted by: Anubis
theres a difference between a prison and jail?
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basically the difference is just the severity of the crime and the time you are held in each facility. Jail is more for short-term holding and prison is for long term
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So what is a penitentiary then? Where does it fit?
 
We have a jail prison combo near us I think, Folsom Penitentiary. I don't think it is a maximum security prison though.
 
There's another major difference between a jail and a prison.

Jails are owned and operated by local municipalities (cities and counties). Prisons are operated by states and the feds.

I'm sure there are sentencing guidelines for the judge to send long term or hardcore offenders to prison as opposed to jail, but there are times when people get 1 year at DOC (Department of Corrections) rather than 1 year at the county jail. So there is some leeway on the part of the judge.

A penitentiary is just another word for prison.
 
Originally posted by: 1sikbITCH
There's another major difference between a jail and a prison.

Jails are owned and operated by local municipalities (cities and counties). Prisons are operated by states and the feds.

I'm sure there are sentencing guidelines for the judge to send long term or hardcore offenders to prison as opposed to jail, but there are times when people get 1 year at DOC (Department of Corrections) rather than 1 year at the county jail. So there is some leeway on the part of the judge.

A penitentiary is just another word for prison.
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prisons are now often privatized.....in fact its a billion dollar a year industry.
 
Originally posted by: 1sikbITCH
There's another major difference between a jail and a prison.

Jails are owned and operated by local municipalities (cities and counties). Prisons are operated by states and the feds.

I'm sure there are sentencing guidelines for the judge to send long term or hardcore offenders to prison as opposed to jail, but there are times when people get 1 year at DOC (Department of Corrections) rather than 1 year at the county jail. So there is some leeway on the part of the judge.

A penitentiary is just another word for prison.
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So what was the place that martha stewert went too. they place nick named camp cup cake. It didn't seem so bad in the movies. They seemed to have lots freedom in that place. Even had time to make apple pie.
 
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: 1sikbITCH
There's another major difference between a jail and a prison.

Jails are owned and operated by local municipalities (cities and counties). Prisons are operated by states and the feds.

I'm sure there are sentencing guidelines for the judge to send long term or hardcore offenders to prison as opposed to jail, but there are times when people get 1 year at DOC (Department of Corrections) rather than 1 year at the county jail. So there is some leeway on the part of the judge.

A penitentiary is just another word for prison.
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So what was the place that martha stewert went too. they place nick named camp cup cake. It didn't seem so bad in the movies. They seemed to have lots freedom in that place. Even had time to make apple pie.
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white collar criminials often dont get sent in with the murderers and what not because the result would be a more hardened and dangerous criminal when they are released.
 
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: 1sikbITCH
There's another major difference between a jail and a prison.

Jails are owned and operated by local municipalities (cities and counties). Prisons are operated by states and the feds.

I'm sure there are sentencing guidelines for the judge to send long term or hardcore offenders to prison as opposed to jail, but there are times when people get 1 year at DOC (Department of Corrections) rather than 1 year at the county jail. So there is some leeway on the part of the judge.

A penitentiary is just another word for prison.
Click to expand...


So what was the place that martha stewert went too. they place nick named camp cup cake. It didn't seem so bad in the movies. They seemed to have lots freedom in that place. Even had time to make apple pie.
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white collar criminials often dont get sent in with the murderers and what not because the result would be a more hardened and dangerous criminal when they are released.
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But it seemed like the "jail" she went to could hardly be called a jail. County jail seems more tough than the place she went too.
 
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: 1sikbITCH
There's another major difference between a jail and a prison.

Jails are owned and operated by local municipalities (cities and counties). Prisons are operated by states and the feds.

I'm sure there are sentencing guidelines for the judge to send long term or hardcore offenders to prison as opposed to jail, but there are times when people get 1 year at DOC (Department of Corrections) rather than 1 year at the county jail. So there is some leeway on the part of the judge.

A penitentiary is just another word for prison.
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So what was the place that martha stewert went too. they place nick named camp cup cake. It didn't seem so bad in the movies. They seemed to have lots freedom in that place. Even had time to make apple pie.
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That's Federal prison. Federal prison is different because of the types of criminals the feds prosecute. They mostly prosecute white collar crimes (Enron, Whitewater, Martha Stewart for example). Not sure exactly why though.

If you rape or murder someone, you will be tried by the state and that's where you'll do your time. The feds don't ordinarily prosecute simple rapes and murders. They prosecute if the murder was committed to further your criminal enterprise (racketeering- see RICO Act) or go across state lines. Sometimes they will bring a charge of violating someone's civil rights if for some reason the State couldn't make a charge stick but they can. If the FBI or the DEA builds a case against you, your case will be brought by the Feds and to Federal Prison you'll go.
 
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