Right wing version of "woke" and "cancel culture"

HomerJS

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Article proves "woke" and "cancel culture" as they define it really isn't an issue for them. They are perfectly willing to engage in the very thing they deride when it suits them.

This is how conservatives would frame it.
"We don't really care about discrimination against minorities and we will hate on them when we see fit". "However, discrimination against white people is the real issue"

University cancels choir group performance over gay member (attitude.co.uk)

I'll go out on a limb and speculate if a member of that choir was racist or an anti-semite the concert would have proceeded as scheduled. How do you find a choir who's members have never "sinned"?
 

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In the Black Community, to be "Woke" means an individual who's informed, educated and conscious of social injustice and racial inequality.

But after years of listening to stupid and ignorant racists and reading attack after attack on Diversity, those who hate Blacks apparently believe Woke is anything that Black People can benefit from, such as a quality education.
 

ivwshane

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In the Black Community, to be "Woke" means an individual who's informed, educated and conscious of social injustice and racial inequality.

But after years of listening to stupid and ignorant racists and reading attack after attack on Diversity, those who hate Blacks apparently believe Woke is anything that Black People can benefit from, such as a quality education.

I think woke has now been defined as anything the right doesn’t like. Using that definition allows them to have inconsistencies in their beliefs. It’s cult food for the cult fish.
 

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While I do agree with you, the overriding emotion is Race Hatred.

Black people are despised for the one thing they have no control over - their skin hue.

All the other complaints are bullshit excuses.
 

HomerJS

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I think woke has now been defined as anything the right doesn’t like. Using that definition allows them to have inconsistencies in their beliefs. It’s cult food for the cult fish.

Somehow right wingers are masters at redefining and demonizing terms created by others. Most of that success come from their media flooding the zone with so many lies they take hold while the truth takes a back seat.
 

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The Right categorize anything that they dislike as "woke" is because being woke requires you to acknowledge and be conscious of social injustice and racial inequality, which the Right believe doesn't exist. To acknowledge the existence of social injustice and racial inequality implies that you agree that things need to be different to resolve those issues, whether it be giving deference to racial minorities, particularly African Americans, or that certain unspoken advantages that White people benefit from should to be consciously curtailed. Either option is a revision to the status quo, one that the Right stands to lose. Therefore, anything that is "woke" is treated as threat to these people so they will do anything to demonize it or reframe it as them being the victim, or they will simply downplay it and reframe it as Liberals dramatizing things.

The quote about privilege and inequality rings true: when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
 

HomerJS

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For a bit more tone deafness from the university.

The college also said the artists were “treated with dignity and respect when informed of the cancellation.”

Not sure how you can treat someone with “dignity and respect” while discriminating against them.

Treated with dignity while we cancel your performance because one of your members is gay.

I guess that’s their redefined version of dignity
 
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ivwshane

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While I do agree with you, the overriding emotion is Race Hatred.

Black people are despised for the one thing they have no control over - their skin hue.

All the other complaints are bullshit excuses.

The easy answer is it’s just racism and to some extent it is but I really think it’s just good’ol brainwashing of the right to hate/fear anything from the “left” (the left being defined as anything not like them).
 

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It's a war of words.
Remember how the right poisoned the word LIBERAL so much so that liberals had to replace liberal with PROGRESSIVE, which actually means the same. Liberal is to move forward and to grow, to expand, to flourish like nature designed.

Now, the word WOKE is under attack by republicans and success of that attack is easily achieved. Woke, liberal, both catchy little words that republicans are extremely good at twisting into defining their opponent. The word MAGA could be republicans achilles heel, but the Mega wear the word mega with pride. And democrats aren't so good at playing the name game as are republicans.

Democrats need to embrace the label WOKE and wear it with pride because after all, I'd rather be woke than mega any day.
And whats so terrible about the word WOKE?
Woke is defined as: alert to injustice and discrimination in society, especially racism.
Now I ask, how the hell can republicans twist woke into something bad or to be perceived as a negative? The same goes for the word liberal. But republicans so demonize such words and terms, and they get away with it.
 

HomerJS

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It's a war of words.
Remember how the right poisoned the word LIBERAL so much so that liberals had to replace liberal with PROGRESSIVE, which actually means the same. Liberal is to move forward and to grow, to expand, to flourish like nature designed.

Now, the word WOKE is under attack by republicans and success of that attack is easily achieved. Woke, liberal, both catchy little words that republicans are extremely good at twisting into defining their opponent. The word MAGA could be republicans achilles heel, but the Mega wear the word mega with pride. And democrats aren't so good at playing the name game as are republicans.

Democrats need to embrace the label WOKE and wear it with pride because after all, I'd rather be woke than mega any day.
And whats so terrible about the word WOKE?
Woke is defined as: alert to injustice and discrimination in society, especially racism.
Now I ask, how the hell can republicans twist woke into something bad or to be perceived as a negative? The same goes for the word liberal. But republicans so demonize such words and terms, and they get away with it.
You are 100% correct. Woke is an awareness of injustice and inequities. When the subject of woke comes up from righties I do two things.

Demand they define it. Most of the time they can't.

Second, I give them my classic example of woke. When the military integrated the troops mandating blacks be allowed to serve along with whites. I've never gotten any pushback to that example other then, "well it was the right thing to do". My response was "no shit and that is being woke."

KJP missed an opportunity to push back on the term when she was asked "Is President Biden woke"

Dems need a big pushback on the bastardization of this term and take ownership back.

The military example of woke is no better illustrated then in this clip of the West Wing. They were debating gays in the military and Adm Fitzwallace reminds them of what woke really is. I stood up and applauded first time I watched this scene
 
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I think woke has now been defined as anything the right doesn’t like. Using that definition allows them to have inconsistencies in their beliefs. It’s cult food for the cult fish.

It's absolutely a code word so that they can use it instead of the "nasty" ones that they're not allowed to say.
 

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I think woke has now been defined as anything the right doesn’t like. Using that definition allows them to have inconsistencies in their beliefs. It’s cult food for the cult fish.

Yeah this. It's become anything they don't like from owning an electric car, having on the menu/ordering vegetable meals from a restaurant, buying a video game with not an attractive enough female protagonist. They have successfully turned it into a snarl word they can use to label anything they want to push to the base of an easily grifted electorate.
 
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These days a picture of a wind turbine is "woke." So yeah, pretty much. They've succeeded in making the word meaningless.

Speaking of windmills/turbines ...


I’m surprised he didn’t say that windmills would make the world to windy.
 
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All of you guys are right. And it is gratifying to learn you see through their B.S.
 

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To conservatives, "woke" means any position or speech that advocates for the proposition that all persons are created equal and/or guaranteed equal protection of the laws.

While "cancel culture" represents their pro-corporate consumerist agenda where people should be forced to buy goods they don't want from businesses they don't agree with.

Keep in mind, these are people who will chant loudly about how much they love the Constitution while at the same time cheering "comply or die" when someone who isn't one of them gets extrajudicially executed by the govt solely for carrying a gun or for resisting tyranny, rights they claim jealously for themselves.
Or who will bury themselves in hopeless debt solely to demonstrate to others their ability to consume and who will react to any reasonable arguments to conserve or otherwise refrain from reckless consumerism as if their freedoms were being taken from them.
 

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Somehow right wingers are masters at redefining and demonizing terms created by others. Most of that success come from their media flooding the zone with so many lies they take hold while the truth takes a back seat.
100%
Like “Fake News” was used to describe right wing disinformation in the beginning… Let the Rupert machine do it its work and it’s become something mainstream media.
Trump debating Hillary defined it “No you’re the puppet, you’re the puppet” repeat repeat repeat.
Its like its an inherent dialect in our species that most of us has forgotten.
 

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