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Right wing blowhards silent on Libby dropping a dime on Bush

HomerJS

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Am I the only one who has noticed the lack of comment on Scooter Libby testifying he was authorized to release PDB information by Bush? All the while Bush was pretending he had no idea wher these leaks came from.

Limbaugh, Hannity O'Riley et al have not mentioned this since the story broke last week.

The only thing these guys wabnt to talk about is immigration and Cynthia McKinney. Could it be the lack of talking points from the RNC and the White House. Kinda hard to defend since Bush has claimed he didn't know anything.
 
I think it is a confusion of two seperate issues.

One is the Plame leak which Bush has said he didnt know about or authorize. The other is the release of declassified documents through libby to the press.

So far it seem everybody is combining the two and saying Bush authorized the leak of Plame.

I look at this story as a non-issue really. He authorized relase of a document created by our intelligence agencies to show what we thought Saddam had before the war.

He has even now admitted he authorized the release of declassified documents. He does this on a daily basis so I dont see a lot to talk about I guess. Apparently neither does the conservative radio shows.
 
"He has even now admitted he authorized the release of declassified documents.

Part of the problem is that the documents in question were officially declassified 10 days after Libby went to Judith Miller with the selected bits that Bush wanted to be reported. Also no one at the CIA knew that the document was being declassified. Shady business all the way around.
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
who is Cynthia Mckinney?

Congresswoman who went public and said Bush had foreknowledge of September 11th attacks. Also, see this link why the current administration hates her guts:

Representative Cynthia McKinney Grills Rumsfeld On Dyncorp Sex Rings, Missing Pentagon Trillions & 9/11 Wargames
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/240305mckinneygrills.htm

She's also been recently arrested for striking an officer.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87He has even now admitted he authorized the release of declassified documents. He does this on a daily basis so I dont see a lot to talk about I guess. Apparently neither does the conservative radio shows.

Limbaugh and Hannity will beat even the most mundane of topics to death, but not this? Come on, dude.

"I will say this, that after we liberated Iraq, there was questions in peoples' minds about, you know, the basis upon which I made statements, in other words, going into Iraq," Bush said in his first words on the subject since it flared up last week.

Does it matter at ALL that he was dead wrong about everything, Gen87?

"I wanted people to see what some of those statements were based on. I wanted people to see the truth. I thought it made sense for people to see the truth. That's why I declassified the document," he said.

This from one of the most secretive administrations in our history? They had already thrown everything but the kitchen sink at the public in an effort to get us (illegally) into Iraq. Most of us were already onboard for what's turned out to be the biggest strategic blunder in our history (and THAT'S saying something). The truth, huh? Does Bush have a warm braincell in his head? The White house already new that the Niger deal didn't happen by this point (just like we ALL know now), but they couldn't resist taking another swipe at Wilson.

It simply amazes me that people this venal and petty are STILL the subjects of moral cheerleading and admiration by anyone.






 
Limbaugh and Hannity will beat even the most mundane of topics to death, but not this? Come on, dude.

You would have to ask them. For me there isnt much of a story here to beat. He released parts of a declassified document.

Does it matter at ALL that he was dead wrong about everything, Gen87?

What does that have to do with this story?
Answer, nothing.

This from one of the most secretive administrations in our history? They had already thrown everything but the kitchen sink at the public in an effort to get us (illegally) into Iraq. Most of us were already onboard for what's turned out to be the biggest strategic blunder in our history (and THAT'S saying something). The truth, huh? Does Bush have a warm braincell in his head? The White house already new that the Niger deal didn't happen by this point (just like we ALL know now), but they couldn't resist taking another swipe at Wilson.

If everything is out in the open and being criticized like it is with this administration, just how "secret" can it be?

You repeating the tired old line of "illegally" getting us into Iraq wont make it anymore "illegal" than it already isnt.

It simply amazes me that people this venal and petty are STILL the subjects of moral cheerleading and admiration by anyone.

Not quite as amazing as the desperation to link anything and everything and hope it sticks as some people.
 
wow..just wow..the right wingers on this board amaze me...they simply cannot admit when the white house is being unethical...imagine how that will change if the dems make it back to power..hypocrisy at its best and you will pay for allowing this type of behavior to go on in washington...the idiot dems will do the exact same crap in their own way and you will whine and complain but you will have no credibility because you are avoiding the truth currently
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
I think it is a confusion of two seperate issues.

One is the Plame leak which Bush has said he didnt know about or authorize. The other is the release of declassified documents through libby to the press.

So far it seem everybody is combining the two and saying Bush authorized the leak of Plame.

I look at this story as a non-issue really. He authorized relase of a document created by our intelligence agencies to show what we thought Saddam had before the war.

He has even now admitted he authorized the release of declassified documents. He does this on a daily basis so I dont see a lot to talk about I guess. Apparently neither does the conservative radio shows.

He's basically abusing his power, declassifying for political reasons. Pretty low, even for Bushie.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
You would have to ask them. For me there isnt much of a story here to beat. He released parts of a declassified document.

Ask them what? They spray their opinions all over the place, about almost anything, especially if it can be worked to tar the "libs." If you think the same man who constantly brow-beats others about "national security" being a great reason to keep the people who pay his salary in the dark, should himself leak for political gain then you're a lost cause.

What does that have to do with this story?

Did you even bother to read what was leaked, and how, before you started rubbing baby-oil on Bush's ass???

Answer, nothing.

Cute.

If everything is out in the open and being criticized like it is with this administration, just how "secret" can it be?

Everything? What are you, a seminar poster?

You repeating the tired old line of "illegally" getting us into Iraq wont make it anymore "illegal" than it already isnt.

Oops! You let the truth slip out. You don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about, but can't stop talking, dude.

Not quite as amazing as the desperation to link anything and everything and hope it sticks as some people.

After this post it's easy to see why you're trying to defend the indefensable. Thanks...

 
All this reads like a bad soap opera plot----but Bush is now literally betting his political and actual life on the outcome. If Iraq goes civil war, if the dems take even one wing of congress, these facts will come out in
big way.

And Bush may spend the rest of his natural life in the docket in the Hague----if not in a US prison somewhere.
And we finally see the Bush administration unravel before our very eyes. Too many people know the truth to keep it hidden much longer. The pot is beginning to boil---and the lid will fly off soon. Blowing worms everywhere.

I suspect criminal charges will follow.
 
It's been almost 2 weeks and none of the big three has even mentioned this story. Update: today White House admitted Bush authorized the leak of parts of the NIE that were bogus.

Anyone have a theory of the silence??
 
Originally posted by: HomerJS
It's been almost 2 weeks and none of the big three has even mentioned this story. Update: today White House admitted Bush authorized the leak of parts of the NIE that were bogus.

Anyone have a theory of the silence??

The reason for it probably tracks with the usual excuse. The Bush adminitration and their supporters have the mainstream media completely buffaloed. Would you want to recieve a TON of hate-mail and sponsor threats, even if you were just doing your job?

 
What is there to say at this point? Partisan hacks will believe one side or another. Wait, your subject was
Right wing blowhards silent on Libby dropping a dime on Bush
so it is clear what your opinion is.

I don't have a clue as to what the truth is. There are two things that I believe:
1. The President can release any information that he wants to at any time and in any manner.
2. Both sides can make any statement they want and I will not be able to discern the truth until enough information has been divluged. Even then the truth will never truly be known.

Regardless. You keep hacking away. The Elites you support like you for it.
 
Originally posted by: HomerJS
Am I the only one who has noticed the lack of comment on Scooter Libby testifying he was authorized to release PDB information by Bush? All the while Bush was pretending he had no idea wher these leaks came from.

Limbaugh, Hannity O'Riley et al have not mentioned this since the story broke last week.

The only thing these guys wabnt to talk about is immigration and Cynthia McKinney. Could it be the lack of talking points from the RNC and the White House. Kinda hard to defend since Bush has claimed he didn't know anything.

I am not surprised.

They have been attacking the Press this week saying that the Liberal Press that is Anti-Bush is a danger to the United States.

"The anti-Bush press puts us all in danger"

 
More stuff today came out they will not discuss...

Bush lied after the war saying we discovered portable neuclear weapons labs (on trucks). Shortly after the war teams were sent out to check out those trucks and reported back these were not weapons. These results were reported before Bush made his speeches.

Colin Powell reported to say Dick Cheney pushed the neuclear threat by Iraq when the evidence was not there.
 
Originally posted by: HomerJS
More stuff today came out they will not discuss...

Bush lied after the war saying we discovered portable neuclear weapons labs (on trucks). Shortly after the war teams were sent out to check out those trucks and reported back these were not weapons. These results were reported before Bush made his speeches.

Colin Powell reported to say Dick Cheney pushed the neuclear threat by Iraq when the evidense was not there.

Yep, there not talking about at all, so much so that McClellan discussed this during the Press Corp today as well as releasing this statement. So the President receives a report from the CIA/DIA and one day later the President discusses what was given to him in said report. Woo, another smoking gun.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/04/20060412-8.html

The Washington Post's Reckless Reporting On WMD Claims

Setting the Record Straight


"I will point out that the reporting I saw this morning was simply reckless and it was irresponsible. The lead in The Washington Post left the impression for the reader that the President was saying something he knew at the time not to be true. ? The President's statements were based on the joint assessment of the CIA and DIA that was publicly released the day before [the President made his statements]."

-Scott McClellan, White House Press Briefing
April 12, 2006

The Washington Post Implies President Bush Made Iraqi WMD Claims He Knew Had Already Been Proven False

The Washington Post: "On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad, President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. and Kurdish troops had turned out to be long-sought mobile 'biological laboratories.' He declared, 'We have found the weapons of mass destruction.' The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials possessed powerful evidence that it was not true." (Joby Warrick, "Lacking Biolabs, Trailers Carried Case For War," The Washington Post, 4/12/06)

Then, ABC News Irresponsibly Mischaracterizes The Washington Post's Report: "They'd found a couple trailers that he said actually were the mobile biological laboratories that he said showed that they were indeed developing WMD, and The Washington Post has a story today that says the President knew at the time that was not true." (ABC's "Good Morning America," 4/12/06)

But The CIA And DIA Had Jointly Assessed At The Time That The Labs Were For Producing Biological Weapons

The President's Comments Followed The Intelligence Assessment Of The CIA And The DIA That Was Publicly Released Just One Day Earlier.


CIA/DIA Report (May 28, 2003): "Coalition forces have uncovered the strongest evidence to date that Iraq was hiding a biological warfare program. ... US forces in late April also discovered a mobile laboratory truck in Baghdad. The truck is a toxicology laboratory from the 1980s that could be used to support BW or legitimate research. The design, equipment, and layout of the trailer found in late April is strikingly similar to descriptions provided by a source who was a chemical engineer that managed one of the mobile plants." ("Iraqi Mobile Biological Warfare Agent Production Plants," Central Intelligence Agency And Defense Intelligence Agency, 5/28/03)


View The Entire CIA/DIA Report At:

http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraqi_mobile_plants/paper_w.pdf.


U.S. Intelligence Official: "'We are highly confident that the coalition forces in Iraq have discovered ... a mobile biological production plant,' a U.S. intelligence official, not identified by the CIA, said via conference call." (Michelle Mittelstadt, "U.S. Officials 'Confident' Mobile Labs Were Intended For Biological Weapons Production," The Dallas Morning News, 5/29/03)

The CIA/DIA Report Was Only Later Determined To Be Wrong By The Robb/Silberman WMD Commission And The Iraq Survey Group. (Commission On The Intelligence Capabilities Of The United States Regarding Weapons Of Mass Destruction, "Report To The President," 3/31/05)
 
One thing's for sure about the Bush Admin- once they find a line they can use, they stick with it, like this-

"The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to go to war."

Which renders the usual "Bush didn't know it wasn't true when he said it" song and dance utterly transparent. They didn't care if it was true or not, it was just something they could sell- over and over again, even after they knew for sure it wasn't true, at all... there are a whole host of twaddle brains out there who still believe it, simply because Bush said it...

And the whole reference to the found toxicology lab truck is extremely disingenuous. Yeh, sure, it could be used for "research", like figuring out what had been used on their troops to kill and maim them. Every half-assed modern army has such equipment- not to make CBW agents, but rather to identify them...

Even when confronted with obvious distortions from the Admin, there are still those who insist on repeating them, cut 'n paste, ad infinitum... I wonder if they're getting paid, or if they're really that lacking in basic analytical skills...

Faith Conquers All, right?
 
the silence is deafening isn't it? 😉

no wonder the levees in NO got ignored. seems like the white house has it's own weakening, crack-inundated levees to worry about. i wonder what "dutchboy" carl sees in the mirror every morning .

yer doin' a heck of a job rovey 'ol boy!

what goes around.....



 
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
One thing's for sure about the Bush Admin- once they find a line they can use, they stick with it, like this-

"The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to go to war."

Which renders the usual "Bush didn't know it wasn't true when he said it" song and dance utterly transparent. They didn't care if it was true or not, it was just something they could sell- over and over again, even after they knew for sure it wasn't true, at all... there are a whole host of twaddle brains out there who still believe it, simply because Bush said it...

And the whole reference to the found toxicology lab truck is extremely disingenuous. Yeh, sure, it could be used for "research", like figuring out what had been used on their troops to kill and maim them. Every half-assed modern army has such equipment- not to make CBW agents, but rather to identify them...

Even when confronted with obvious distortions from the Admin, there are still those who insist on repeating them, cut 'n paste, ad infinitum... I wonder if they're getting paid, or if they're really that lacking in basic analytical skills...

Faith Conquers All, right?
No but the realization that your own gullibility and stupidity are responsible for the deaths of thousands of people is not something people want to face. Lala Land is full of devils who have sinned.

 
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