Right Rear drum brake making a "click, click, click" noise.........

[redgtxdi]

So, I recently did rear brakes on my '95 Prizm/Corolla (new shoes & drums) & they were absolutely perfect for about a month.

I still don't see any degradation of performance, but for the last week or so, whenever I press on the brakes (typically the harder I push the louder it is) I hear this "click, click, click, click" that's consistent with the rolling speed of the car coming from the right drum.

It's most easily heard just as approaching a complete stop.

I've pulled drums, cleaned everything......checked all springs, made sure wheel cylinders are working properly, perfectly adjusted & readjusted shoes & nothing stops it.



Oh, P.S.--- What I learned today is that when I pull on just the e-brake, it'll also make the noise. So, perhaps I can isolate it to just the rear shoe, but I still just don't get it.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Is the shield loose or bent?

 

[LTC8K6]

Bearing?

 

[daveymark]

cv boot?

 

[redgtxdi]

Thanks for the replies.........

Unfortunately, all that's checked. All's good.

And remember..........for a month everything was just perfect!


Totally confused on this one.


Thought about switching drums to see if it either stops or switches. (The drum didn't *look* extremely warped, but I could only judge visually & by feel.)


?????

 

[alkemyst]

have you spun the wheel off the ground and listened? If you have a hubcap check it for a rock in it.

*edit* saw your PS, thought that was a sig...

You may have put your adjuster on backwards.

 

[redgtxdi]

Alk.........thanks.

Although the adjusters only go in one way (e-brake adjuster) otherwise the adjusting star won't hit the 'clicker' and the star can't be reached by the slot on the back of the brake backing plate. (slot's only on one side)

But check out "Answerer 6" in this yahoo thread..............(and I've never heard of this before)..........


http://answers.yahoo.com/quest...07074844AAKv8q8&show=7

 

[tylerdustin2008]

My brother car did the exact same thing. 96 Corolla Dx, same as the Prism. His made noise because the brake pad was digging into the caliper. Although this is the front, could be doing the same thing. We replaced it, and it works fine now.

Tyler

 

[redgtxdi]

Well, since I looked & looked & just couldn't see anything else wrong........I decided to just swap the drums & see what happened..........


Clicking STOPPED!!!



We'll see if it stays away, but I went on a little Sunday drive & no clicking whatsoever.

 

[redgtxdi]

Welllllll.......... here we go again!!!

I swapped the drums & things were great for about a month. And now........


CLICK, CLICK, CLICK, CLICK!!!!


It started very lightly about a week ago and the last couple days is just enough to make me gnash my teeth!!!!


What could this possibly be???

 

[d33pt]

swap the drum again!

did you do the spin test by hand with the wheel off the ground? what happens then?

 

[redgtxdi]

Ya, I did all the spin tests, etc. Things are fine until the brake is applied & ONLY then.

(Only new info I was able to deduct is that it seems to do it when I pull on the e-brake telling me I can isolate it to the rear-shoe(s) only).

It's just the most annoying thing I've ever heard outside of grinding brakes!!!!!!

I'll need an oil change soon & I'm tempted to let those guys just have at it & see if they can figure it out.

(smiley pulling hair out, here!) :shocked:

 

[njmodi]

Your pad and drum are not making "round" contact. When you did the brakes to begin with - did you have the drums turned? they are out of round and so now when you brake hard they are pushing the shoes around inside the housing.

1. time for a new set of drums or get yours turned again
2. also replace the shoes
3. drive away happy

 

[bruceb]

It may be as simple as you put the Shoes on backward.
Most drum brakes, the shoes are two differnent lengths
and they must be put in the correct spot. There is a Leading
and a Trailing Shoe. Check your shop manual. Also check
for a bad adjuster .. take it apart, clean it, light grease so the
threads move easily. And check your parking brake adjustments.

 

[cardiac]

Try and adjust the brakes by hand. It could be the adjuster ticking. There should be a rubber grommet covering an access hole in the backing plate. Get an adjusting tool (Sometimes a wide bladed screwdriver will work), and adjust them just until you feel a very light drag on the drum as you spin it, then back off a hair.

 

[redgtxdi]

Originally posted by: njmodi
Your pad and drum are not making "round" contact. When you did the brakes to begin with - did you have the drums turned? they are out of round and so now when you brake hard they are pushing the shoes around inside the housing.

1. time for a new set of drums or get yours turned again
2. also replace the shoes
3. drive away happy

I think this is the most possible scenario........(though why they only do it on one side after swapping drums, actually *doesn't* support the theory).


I think I'm going to try and exchange the drums for the next up (AutoZone crap) and see if their (Duralast?) version does any better than their *basic* version.

P.S. Shoes only work one way due to e-brake adjusters.

P.P.S. Brakes are adjusted well, though perhaps adjusting a smidge tight might force the shoes to more confined quarters and eliminate or at least 'reduce' the clicking.

And thanks to all for feedback. This one baffles me so bad I'd accept "sky is falling" for an answer.

 

[devideby0]

I have 2005 toyota camry v4. I serviced my drum brakes 1 month back and since then it started making same clicking noise as I slowed down the car using brakes. The frequency of the click depended on the speed of the car. I got drums turned at Oreilly auto parts, swapped those drums from left to right and also replaced the springs on the star wheel , the noise did not go away. I noticed though that it was coming from only one of the rear wheel. Finally, i did visual inspection of both drum brake assemblies to see why one is making noise and the other one is not. I found that the spring that goes over the star wheel was touching the star wheel in the problem brake. I took the screw driver and bent the spring over star wheel in such a way that it did not touch the wheel. The noise stopped coming. I am still watching it though. I will update again if I see something develop. I hope this helps other members on this forum. Good luck.

 

[kinetic_lude]

When I found this post I have been struggling with the same problem on my 2000 Honda Odyssey for a while. I had changed the shoes and turned the drums, and then a few thousand miles later the dreaded clicking begun and persisted whenever the rear brakes engaged. The clicking only occurred on the driver's side wheel. Tried all of the above suggestions, but today found the real problem. It is possible that you drum is not longer true, but as engineers my Dad and I find this very unlikely. We found the problem to be the tension clips that hold the shoe pins against the backplate. The clips did not have enough tension to pull the pin all the way though the brake assembly and in turn not force the shoe against the backplate. So under braking the springs that engage the brakes pull the shoes away from the backplate and they begin to flap. So to fix this problem you need to either buy new clip with the proper tension. Or what we did was just pull them apart with some pliers to provide more tension.

 

[GopherT]

When I found this post I have been struggling with the same problem on my 2000 Honda Odyssey for a while. I had changed the shoes and turned the drums, and then a few thousand miles later the dreaded clicking begun and persisted whenever the rear brakes engaged. The clicking only occurred on the driver's side wheel. Tried all of the above suggestions, but today found the real problem. It is possible that you drum is not longer true, but as engineers my Dad and I find this very unlikely. We found the problem to be the tension clips that hold the shoe pins against the backplate. The clips did not have enough tension to pull the pin all the way though the brake assembly and in turn not force the shoe against the backplate. So under braking the springs that engage the brakes pull the shoes away from the backplate and they begin to flap. So to fix this problem you need to either buy new clip with the proper tension. Or what we did was just pull them apart with some pliers to provide more tension.

Same thing happened on a 1999 camry with a Wagner hardware Kit (rear drum brakes). The springs on the tension clips in the new hardware pack were too weak and, after replacing with the original springs, the licking stopped.

Good luck to anyone else with this problem.

 

[dabears1987]

I don't know if this issue has been resolved, but i recently swapped drums on my car and didn't change shoes or hardware because i was just putting on painted drums and everything else was still new. I got a popping noise from the right rear and so i swapped drums side to side and got the noise out of the other side, so i knew it was a warped drum. I contacted the parts store and just got them to warranty the drum and no problem since. Hope this helps. I read all this other stuff about the springs and cylinders and knew that wasn't the case since i never changed that. Try this and hopefully that'll fix your problem