Right, or wrong?

Saulbadguy

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Let's say I need to write an essay for 2 different classes.

Would it be considered cheating if I handed in the same essay for both classes?
 

eLiu

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I'm pretty sure this is considered cheating.

That said, I don't consider it cheating and I've done it more than once. Even handed in an essay written in HS to a college class; that was awesome.
 

joesmoke

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run it by both teachers first, and if theyre both cool with it go ahead... :laugh:
 

SagaLore

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Unfortunately, yes. When you submit the essay, it becomes property of the school. So your 2nd essay is considered plagiarism, which will get you kicked out.
 

Lean L

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unless they both required turnitin there's no prob. Most professors don't even read papers. I received an 100 on a paper once that had grammar errors. Although in that case, the grade was mostly from the presentation.
 

waffleironhead

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I have had instructors say it was ok. Consider a paper written for chemistry turned in for english comp as well. The comp instructor was only interested in the grammatical structure of the paper, while the chemistry was interested in the content. Win, Win.
 

Chiropteran

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Self-plagiarism is the reuse of significant, identical, or nearly identical portions of one?s own work without acknowledging that one is doing so or without citing the original work. Articles of this nature are often referred to as multiple publications. The issue can be either legal, in the case where copyright of the prior work has been transferred to another entity, or merely ethical. Typically, self-plagiarism is only considered to be a serious ethical issue in settings where a publication is asserted to consist of new material, such as in academic publishing or educational assignments [12]. It does not apply (except in the legal sense) to public-interest texts, such as social, professional, and cultural opinions usually published in newspapers and magazines.

In academic fields, self-plagiarism is when an author reuses portions of their own published and copyrighted work in subsequent publications, but without attributing the previous publication.[13] Identifying self-plagiarism is often difficult because limited reuse of material is both legally accepted (as fair use) and ethically accepted.[14] Some professional organizations like the Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) have created policies that deal specifically with self-plagiarism.[15] As compared to plagiarism, self-plagiarism is generally unregulated.

According to Patrick M. Scanlon [16]:

?Self-plagiarism? is a term with some specialized currency. Most prominently, it is used in discussions of research and publishing integrity in biomedicine, where heavy publish-or-perish demands have led to a rash of duplicate and ?salami-slicing? publication, the reporting of a single study?s results in ?least publishable units? within multiple articles (Blancett, Flanagin, & Young, 1995; Jefferson, 1998; Kassirer & Angell, 1995; Lowe, 2003; McCarthy, 1993; Schein & Paladugu, 2001; Wheeler, 1989). Roig (2002) offers a useful classification system including four types of self-plagiarism: duplicate publication of an article in more than one journal; partitioning of one study into multiple publications, often called salami-slicing; text recycling; and copyright infringement."

Some recommended best practices for avoiding issues of self-plagiarism include:

1. Provide full disclosure ? mention in the introduction that the new or derivative work incorporates texts previously published.
2. Ensure there is no violation of copyright; this may require licensing the previous material from its copyright holder.
3. Cite the old works in the references section of the new work.

Issues of plagiarism and self-plagiarism are often discussed in codes of ethics of various academic disciplines, while issues of copyright infringement must be distinguished from them as matters of applicable law in the country in which they arise.


This quote has been plagiarized from Wikipedia.
 

AstroManLuca

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I wouldn't have too much of a problem with doing it. Depends on how likely they are to find out. Also depends on the nature of the assignments.
 

ohtwell

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I don't see why it would be a problem as long as the paper applies to the topic given by both teachers.


: ) Amanda
 

Mide

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Unfortunately, yes. When you submit the essay, it becomes property of the school. So your 2nd essay is considered plagiarism, which will get you kicked out.

I doubt that. The essay is yours...you wrote it. You're telling me that if Stephen King wrote a portion of "IT" in his HS English class that he could be sued by his former school for finishing up the whole novel? Bullshit.

Some teachers might find it inappropriate but it's not plagiarism when you wrote it.
 
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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Unfortunately, yes. When you submit the essay, it becomes property of the school. So your 2nd essay is considered plagiarism, which will get you kicked out.

I thought that this scenario usually applies when you are working FOR the school, not just attending. I don't see how that is anything short of theft of the student's intellectual property.
 

magomago

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In the real world using your own prior content and changing/improving it is necessary. I can't imagine the essay being the exact same for both classes, so it probably needs retooling and some refocus. This takes time anyways. I'd do it without a problem. I've used portions of papers for presentations in other classes - of course I referenced my work in the works cited, but I never ran into an issue with the professors and they were almost always pleased to find out that I actually incorporated information from my other classes.
 

BoomerD

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My personal experience was that my professors were willing to accept an essay I had written for another class...as long as I properly disclosed that in the citations...
 

Turkish

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Well I use the same presentation quite often at the office. School may be a bit different though. Ask the professors.
 

Bill Brasky

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Ethically? No.
According to my last two universities: Yes.

This. My UC had an internal DB for comparing essays.

Same here. All essays were electronically submitted for this reason.
 

shortylickens

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It is totally unethical to recycle papers in college.
If your morals are more important than your ethics, and your morals say its cool to do so, then go for it.