Rick Wagoner to drive Chevrolet Volt to Congress

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Ktulu

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
I would like to know how many GM support vehicles are driving right behind that volt, they may be stopping every forty miles to change out the battery packs. And GOD only knows how many hundreds of thousands of dollars they spent in some crash program to get the volt car ready for that 300 mile or so drive.

I'm pretty sure that Wagoner is making most of the trip in a Malibu hybrid and this might be for the last leg of the trip. It would be absolutely retarded to risk such a valuable prototype for a car that could potentially save GM's image.
 

boomerang

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
I would like to know how many GM support vehicles are driving right behind that volt, they may be stopping every forty miles to change out the battery packs. And GOD only knows how many hundreds of thousands of dollars they spent in some crash program to get the volt car ready for that 300 mile or so drive.
First off, the Volt will drive forty miles on a charge and then the gas engine kicks in to power the vehicle and also recharge the batteries.

Secondly, they actually drove a Malibu Hybrid to Washington but arrived for the hearings in a Cruze with Volt drivetrain. Which you would have known if you'd actually read the very first post.

I did hear that they slaughtered several babies on the way, so they truly are evil people.
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: loki8481
whole thing feels like a cheap stunt when they should have just flown on a commercial airliner like anyone else would have done.
Why is it such a big deal how these guys got to Washington? I just don't get it.

People weren't happy when they flew corporate.
People aren't happy that they drove.
People think they should have car pooled.

I think they wouldn't be happy if they walked.

Yeah the whole how they got to washington is just more duhversion from the issue. I especially liked senators who fly private jets all over the place while running a business that utterly fails to run a profit berate a ceo about doing the same.

What business are senators supposed to run?
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: loki8481
whole thing feels like a cheap stunt when they should have just flown on a commercial airliner like anyone else would have done.
Why is it such a big deal how these guys got to Washington? I just don't get it.

People weren't happy when they flew corporate.
People aren't happy that they drove.
People think they should have car pooled.

I think they wouldn't be happy if they walked.

Yeah the whole how they got to washington is just more duhversion from the issue. I especially liked senators who fly private jets all over the place while running a business that utterly fails to run a profit berate a ceo about doing the same.

What business are senators supposed to run?


Gee lets ponder this for a moment.
 

boomerang

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Originally posted by: DukeN
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
It's sad that they have to do stuff like this. Congress is so ignorant about cars that they actually believe the pundits and bloggers who say "Detroit doesn't build cars that people want" and "Detroit is behind technologically".


GM had the first mass market electric car, and it flopped.

The EV1 did not flop, it was more of a pilot program which did not continue after the fact. I'm guessing margins weren't high enough and the time just wasn't right in the market for them. There are many other theories as to why the EV1 isn't with us now, most think big oil takes the blame for that one, but the EV1 didn't flop by any means. It never even got the chance to do so when so few of them were leased, not even sold, to the public.

Originally posted by: loki8481
whole thing feels like a cheap stunt when they should have just flown on a commercial airliner like anyone else would have done.

That's because it *is* a cheap stunt. Had they shown some semblance of responsibility the first time around, they wouldn't feel the need to pull off a publicity stunt to try to sway the public's perception of the situation. The damage is done, they're idiots.

The EV1 would've done well but the sole reason it was scrapped was because it did not bring in the high margin service $$$ that the regular internal combustion vehicles typically do. No messy oil and filter issues every couple of months, hence less $$ in their pockets.

Greedy a-holes deserve what they get.

By the way, did you guys know they are demanding bailout $$ in Canada as well?
The EV-1 program was scrapped because the battery technology available at the time was not adequate to serve the needs of enough potential buyers to make the program viable.

But if your theories, and that's all they are, help you to sleep at night then keep on spewing them out. Your theory is so absurd as to be laughable.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
It's sad that they have to do stuff like this. Congress is so ignorant about cars that they actually believe the pundits and bloggers who say "Detroit doesn't build cars that people want" and "Detroit is behind technologically".


GM had the first mass market electric car, and it flopped.

GM had the first mass market electric car and killed it off before it was out of the cradle. Watch who killed the electric car.
As biased as any Michael Moore documentary, IMO. I saw that documentary and although I had know knowledge/biase beforehand, I came out still quite in doubt that I got the real picture. I felt that it was not a winning vehicle and that's why it was cancelled. I do not believe in conspiracies unless there is a) real proof or b) a rational reason for it to be real and in this case there were neither.
I would like to know how many GM support vehicles are driving right behind that volt, they may be stopping every forty miles to change out the battery packs. And GOD only knows how many hundreds of thousands of dollars they spent in some crash program to get the volt car ready for that 300 mile or so drive.
Yep, if it's in the sheet metal of a Cruze it's because a real cruze is in an 18 wheeler 1/2 mile behind, like Knight Rider, ready to come out for the switch if the volt fails on the highway.
 

LumbergTech

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a couple of news organizations should tape the drive and check out the car ...im guessing some really funny stuff would be found
 

winnar111

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Yawn. Another failed business venture by a failed company.

Not many people are going to pay $30k for a crappy ecomobile.