Rick Perry compares homosexuality to alcoholism

[hal2kilo]

Don't be gay!

 

[SlickSnake]

Somehow I doubt that straight men who engage in a "swinger" lifestyle are just going to suddenly become monogamous because of marriage.

You might also try reading what some straigtht marriage supporters think about monogamous marriage. In short monogamy and straight marriage are not synonymous.

Not to mention that screwing around from 18-30, then getting married leads ample time to catch STD's.

Ftfy

Yea, I agree with you 100% this time. Since most straight marrriages end in divorce due to infidelity, why get married at all? So let's just abolish marriage for everyone then, just to make baby Jesus and appliance lovers like you happy.

So the hypocritical hell you and Tricky Ricky Perry and the Texass GOP want for gays must have frozen over and allowed you to escape again.

 

[SlickSnake]

the funny part, by comparing it to alcoholism, which is an inherent trait people have no control over other than their own ability not to imbibe, he's basically admitted that homosexuality is an inherent trait that people have no control over. that's way more progressive than claiming that gay can be cured. in one sentence he's given lie to the texas GOP's platform on "teh gay!"

Good catch!

See what happens when his speechwriter takes a day off to get the gay excorcised out of him by the GOP baby Jesus witchdoctors?

 

[SlickSnake]

How could 1/5 of gay men have hiv in the us, when only a million americans have hiv, according to the cdc?

Toaster lovers and the Texass GOP never let pesky things like accuracy and facts stand in the way of their blind love for xmas baby Jesus. I know there is going to be a lot of surprised gays who end up in Heaven and a lot of pissed off Republican's and fundamentalist Baptists who end upon Hell one day.

 

[Daverino]

About 8400 people a year die from AIDs in the U.S. About 88,000 people a year die from alcohol-related illnesses in the U.S.

So I assume your conclusion is that people who drink alcohol shouldn't be allowed to marry.

That is the most beautiful logical construction I have seen today. Bravo sir.

 

[justoh]

i think there's a bit of a selection bias there. they went to high-risk places, and in those high-risk places, 1 in 5 MSM have the hiv.

even if all 1.1 million cases of hiv in the US were gay men, with nobody else affected, that would only be about 8% not 20% (based on their 4% specifically MSM stat). I don't see it claimed on the cdc site that 20% of gays have hiv, so i'm still going on what neh stated. figures approximate.

 

[SlickSnake]

even if all 1.1 million cases of hiv in the US were gay men, with nobody else affected, that would only be about 8% not 20% (based on their 4% gay stat). I don't see a statistic on the site claiming 20% of gays have hiv, so i'm still going on what neh stated.

What homophobic gay bashers love to do is bastardise the injectable drug users statistics for HIV, then falsely apply that to the gay community, figuring all the gays must be street junky prostitutes addicted to injecting meth and heroin.

I never injected anything, and neither did my husband. HIV not found. However don't let facts stand in the way of hateful Christian bigotry. Or you might make baby Jesus cry.

 

[smackababy]

even if all 1.1 million cases of hiv in the US were gay men, with nobody else affected, that would only be about 8% not 20% (based on their 4% specifically MSM stat). I don't see it claimed on the cdc site that 20% of gays have hiv, so i'm still going on what neh stated. figures approximate.

I've already gone down this road with him. The CDC provides stats for MSM, or men who have sex with men, and not gays. He continues to spout his full of shit "1 in 5 have HIV" crap with no evidence to back it up.


Also, Rick Perry is a religious nutjob. When I first read this thread title, I immediately though "Rick Perry posts as TH?"

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Somehow I doubt that gay men who engage in a "swinger" lifestyle are just going to suddenly become monogamous because same-sex marriage becomes legal.

You might also try reading what some gay same-sex marriage supporters think about monogamous marriage. In short monogamy and marriage are not synonymous.

Not to mention that screwing around from 18-30, then getting married leads ample time to catch HIV.

Ah, but let's say that a couple of gay men manage to make it through their confused, experimenting teenage years and their wild, hedonistic, gay orgy 20s and somehow neither of them contract HIV. They meet, they fall in love, they marry and they are 100% monogamous. What would you venture their odds of getting HIV are as compared to the odds of a chronic alcoholic getting cirrhosis? If you're in a monogamous relationship and you remain monogamous, you don't get HIV, period (unless you're an intravenous drug user, but that's not a requirement of being in a gay marriage). If you chronically abuse alcohol, you're ALWAYS at risk of developing any number of alcohol-related diseases. There's no "safe" alcohol that will prevent you from the threat of cirrhosis. So the two aren't really comparable as far as health risk is concerned, are they? Granted, you seem to believe that a "monogamous homosexual" is about as common as a unicorn so you can't be bothered to let facts influence your opinion, but it's a fact that alcoholism and chronic alcohol abuse has a greater potential to cause a person harm than homosexuality.

 

[ElFenix]

here was the link for the 1 in 5 that i got from googling

http://www.webmd.com/hiv-aids/news/20100923/1-in-5-gay-bi-men-have-hiv-nearly-half-dont-know

again, they went to high risk areas to begin with (top 21 cities) and then sought out high risk cadres (those going to gay bars, dance clubs, etc.)

 

[Strk]

It is less a gay issue and more of a "people think pregnancy is the only risk of having sex" issue.

 

[soulcougher73]

Some people just shouldn't be allowed to exist.

 

[SlickSnake]

Some people just shouldn't be allowed to exist.

Which ones? Then I might get back to you based on your response.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Which ones? Then I might get back to you based on your response.

Can't speak for soulcougher but what I've seen of their post history it's almost certainly people like Rick Perry.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Are you guys talking about "President" Rick Perry? The guy a certain poster said WOULD BE our next president?

 

[Jaskalas]

Rick Perry compares to a squirrel.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Are you guys talking about "President" Rick Perry? The guy a certain poster said WOULD BE our next president?

You ever pause to think that maybe in that posters head he really IS President?

Would explain a lot.

 

[Meghan54]

Rick Perry compares to a squirrel.

You really do an injustice to squirrels, comparing them to Perry.

 

[UberNeuman]

he would know. scuttlebutt has it he's fallen off the wagon a couple times.

Ah! That explains a lot. After he fell out the wagon the wheels ran over the top of his head and pushed out half of the air inside.

 

[MongGrel]

Cya, Rick.

Have a nice day.

 

[Oldgamer]

As a Texan, all I can say to Perry is "Adios, mofo."

Typical Perry, foot in mouth and a total idiot..."oops"..

 

[HomerJS]

Technically what he said is correct. There's a genetic basis for alcoholism and there's a genetic basis for homosexuality, and both are tied to behavior; you can be an alcoholic and refuse to drink, and you can be a homosexual and refuse to engage in sexual activity. This is true. However, where the analogy falls down is that alcoholism and alcohol abuse can have a strong negative impact on a person's ability to live a productive life; alcohol abuse damages the body and can lead to diseases of the liver, heart, brain and kidneys, it can cause problems in personal relationships and damage one's ability to hold down productive employment. None of that is true for homosexual relationships. Being gay doesn't lead to cirrhosis. A lesbian relationship isn't going to cause chronic absenteeism at work due to "gay hangovers." No one gets impaired from driving under the influence of "the gay." There's plenty of valid reasons why we should work to prevent alcohol abuse, and not a single one transfers over into preventing loving relationships between consenting adults. It's an utterly useless analogy.

Since alcohol in the form we drink is a man made invention and didn't exist when our genetic code was created, technically he isn't correct.

 

[Chaotic42]

Since alcohol in the form we drink is a man made invention and didn't exist when our genetic code was created, technically he isn't correct.

Apparently people's genetics can alter the way they handle alcohol: http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arcr343/274-281.htm

But he could have said the same thing about alcohol and heterosexuality. We need to stop worrying about consenting adults having sex and start trying to work on real problems.

 

[justoh]

here was the link for the 1 in 5 that i got from googling

http://www.webmd.com/hiv-aids/news/20100923/1-in-5-gay-bi-men-have-hiv-nearly-half-dont-know

again, they went to high risk areas to begin with (top 21 cities) and then sought out high risk cadres (those going to gay bars, dance clubs, etc.)

I guess i could have googled it, but it's impossible based on the numbers alone, so i didn't bother. He never claims that it's 20% of the most high risk behavior msm, in 21 cities, but simply 1/5 of us gays.

 

[dmcowen674]

Are you guys talking about "President" Rick Perry? The guy a certain poster said WOULD BE our next president?

If Rick was the Nominee even you would vote for him rather than any Democrat.