Rib-eye Steak

KeithTalent

Elite Member | Administrator | No Lifer
Administrator
Nov 30, 2005
50,231
118
116
That sounds like way, way too long.

KT
 

effowe

Diamond Member
Nov 1, 2004
6,012
18
81
Test doneness by touch, not length of time, and yes, that sounds way too long.
 

DrPizza

Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
Mar 5, 2001
49,601
167
111
www.slatebrookfarm.com
Was just looking at some whole ribeyes at BJ's. Basically, a boneless prime rib. (YUMMMM) Bulk - 15 pounds each. And, I'll be cooking them following Alton Brown's method with a cast iron pan. OP - search for steaks, alton brown, and cast iron here (or on youtube) and learn how to cook.

Edit: and 15 minutes at 400 degrees doesn't sound like it was significantly too long... if the steaks were 2 inches thick.
 

Imported

Lifer
Sep 2, 2000
14,679
23
81
Sounds like too long.. I sear for about 30 seconds each side and put in the oven at 450 for about 7 minutes.
 

Pray To Jesus

Diamond Member
Mar 14, 2011
3,622
0
0
Steak was 1.5 inch thick and I didn't have a thermometer. Better safe than stomach ache.

Just finished eating. It was pretty good. Next time I will oven for 10 mins then butter sear 2 min. each side.

Seems like that's the best way to go.

http://www.seriouseats.com/2009/12/the-food-lab-how-to-cook-roast-a-perfect-prime-rib.html

The Myth of the Sear

Jump back a couple of decades and the solution to my dilemma would have been obvious. It was a commonly held belief (and still is, by many home cooks and professional chefs alike), that in order to help a roast, steak, or chop retain moisture, your goal should be to first sear it, creating a crust that will "lock in the juices." Now anyone who reads their Harold McGee or has ever seen juices squeeze up through the seared side of a steak after you flip it over on the grill know that this can't possibly be completely true. But what about partially true?

Could a sear actually help retain at least some of the juices?

In order to test this, I cooked two roasts cut from the same rib sections, with comparable surface areas, weights, and fat contents according to the following processes:

Roast 1: Seared in a pan with 3 tablespoons of canola over high heat on the stovetop until a well-browned crust formed (about 15 minutes total). Transferred to a 300°F oven and roasted to an internal temperature of 120°F, removed and rested for 20 minutes (during which time the center rose to 125°F then dropped back down to 120°F).

Roast 2: Roasted in a 300°F oven to an internal temperature of 120°F, removed and seared in a pan with three tablespoons of canola oil over high heat on the stovetop until a well-browned crust formed (about 8 minutes total) and rested for 20 minutes (during which time the center rose to 125°F then dropped back down to 120°F).

If searing does in fact "lock in juices," then we would expect that the steak which was first seared then roasted should retain more juices that the steak that was first roasted then seared. Unfortunately for old wives' tales, the exact opposite is the case.
 
Last edited:

Iron Woode

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Oct 10, 1999
31,306
12,822
136
I broiled up 2 pork chops today. 9 minutes each side and they were tender and juicy.
 

Iron Woode

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Oct 10, 1999
31,306
12,822
136
yup yup. I tend to skip the cast iron all together now and just broil them. steaks, porkchops, whatever.
I love the broiler.

people seemed to have forgotten about it. You'd be surprised at what you can cook using the broiler.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
27,024
79
86
Steak was 1.5 inch thick and I didn't have a thermometer. Better safe than stomach ache.

Just finished eating. It was pretty good. Next time I will oven for 10 mins then butter sear 2 min. each side.

Seems like that's the best way to go.

http://www.seriouseats.com/2009/12/the-food-lab-how-to-cook-roast-a-perfect-prime-rib.html

What? Steak is safe to eat without raising the internal temperature to 170. In fact, that ruins it. You want it to firm and have an almost cool center.

In an oven... Wtf. I bet you're one of those medium well "steak" eaters.
 

ponyo

Lifer
Feb 14, 2002
19,688
2,811
126
Oven is where most restaurants cook the steaks. I don't think I've seen so many clueless people in a steak thread before. It's not like this is the first steak thread here.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
68,143
10
81
Oven is where most restaurants cook the steaks. I don't think I've seen so many clueless people in a steak thread before. It's not like this is the first steak thread here.

/nods granted they use 1200 degree ones..

nothing wrong with using a oven. I do it every now and then. it adds a different flavor over grilling.
 

Leros

Lifer
Jul 11, 2004
21,867
7
81
134F for 45 minutes in a sous vide and then sear each side for 30 seconds on a hot skillet.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
83,769
19
81
I broiled up 2 pork chops today. 9 minutes each side and they were tender and juicy.

QFT...use a broiler...about 16 mins total for a steak is about right.

A broiled steak is different than grilling, but I like them both.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
33,986
3,321
126
I use an acetylene torch...several seconds on each side and walla the perfect steak!!
 

Howard

Lifer
Oct 14, 1999
47,982
11
81
134F for 45 minutes in a sous vide and then sear each side for 30 seconds on a hot skillet.
I haven't looked at any tables for a while but I think 45 minutes at 134 (?) F is insufficient for a generally-accepted safe reduction of salmonella and e. coli.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
22,980
1,178
126
Steak in an oven? What's wrong with you people?

Steaks are suppose to be cooked in an oven, just not a home oven that maxes out at 500 degrees. Steaks shouldn't be cooked at home, but eating at a 4 star steakhouse is expensive and not always convenient.
 

Puppies04

Diamond Member
Apr 25, 2011
5,909
17
76
Steaks are suppose to be cooked in an oven, just not a home oven that maxes out at 500 degrees. Steaks shouldn't be cooked at home, but eating at a 4 star steakhouse is expensive and not always convenient.

Steaks should be cooked over a camp fire, or possibly ripped from the still twitching carcass of ones prey with your teeth whilst still warm depending on how old school you are.

Amazing how people find ways to charge you a fortune for steak that is almost impossible to reproduce at home isn't it. If I was a cynical person I would suggest it was all a big con.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
22,980
1,178
126
Steaks should be cooked over a camp fire, or possibly ripped from the still twitching carcass of ones prey with your teeth whilst still warm depending on how old school you are.

Amazing how people find ways to charge you a fortune for steak that is almost impossible to reproduce at home isn't it. If I was a cynical person I would suggest it was all a big con.

Luckily for most people they are able to fool themselves into believe they can reproduce a steak from a world class steak house at home. My friend is one, he'd whine about "what? you're an idiot for going to places like Donnovans and paying $50 for a steak!" Then he'd proceed to invite me over to have one of his steaks, cooked on a $2,500 high end grill with IR. All that money spent and the steaks still paled in comparison to one I could get at Mastro's.