RIAA sniffing in computers, legal?

Luagsch

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so i took the advice i read somewhere and installed peerguardian (which has already blocked over 70 connections). so basically what they're doing is looking on my pc if i have something illegal. they just know i use a certain p2p-prog (right, they must know that, else they would just trying to connect and search for data on any computer!!!).
anyway even if they knew, that i was using a certain p2p-program they would interfier with my privacy, don't they? they just search without any legal base (for searching on my computer) for stuff...

now the question: is the riaa and mpaa (and the firms doing it for the riaa and mpaa) being sued for privacy infridgement (sp)????
if not, how much money could we make?
 

Quixotic

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Originally posted by: Luagsch
so i took the advice i read somewhere and installed peerguardian (which has already blocked over 70 connections). so basically what they're doing is looking on my pc if i have something illegal. they just know i use a certain p2p-prog (right, they must know that, else they would just trying to connect and search for data on any computer!!!).
anyway even if they knew, that i was using a certain p2p-program they would interfier with my privacy, don't they? they just search without any legal base (for searching on my computer) for stuff...

now the question: is the riaa and mpaa (and the firms doing it for the riaa and mpaa) being sued for privacy infridgement (sp)????
if not, how much money could we make?

i don't know how useful peer guardian actually is... i don't think all 70, if any, are fromm MPAA/RIAA...
 

Luagsch

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Originally posted by: Quixotic
Originally posted by: Luagsch
so i took the advice i read somewhere and installed peerguardian (which has already blocked over 70 connections). so basically what they're doing is looking on my pc if i have something illegal. they just know i use a certain p2p-prog (right, they must know that, else they would just trying to connect and search for data on any computer!!!).
anyway even if they knew, that i was using a certain p2p-program they would interfier with my privacy, don't they? they just search without any legal base (for searching on my computer) for stuff...

now the question: is the riaa and mpaa (and the firms doing it for the riaa and mpaa) being sued for privacy infridgement (sp)????
if not, how much money could we make?

i don't know how useful peer guardian actually is... i don't think all 70, if any, are fromm MPAA/RIAA... i remember a post somewhere with a false alarm with what was actually a connection attempt from buy.com
i have a software firewall up and running. what peerguardian does is ban certain ip-ranges by the newest infos they have. so if somebody from that range tries to connect to my p2p-program (which is open on certain ports) than peerguardian blocks it... (or something like that...). sure there are some connect-attemps to ie too (like visiting www.riaa.org), but my question is not how to block but are they allow to do what they do...
 

Luagsch

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Originally posted by: moonshinemadness
Move to the UK much safer...apparently
LOL, actually i'm in switzerland and i won't get trouble over here, but again:

the question is NOT how to p2p safe, but are riaa and mpaa legaly allowed to sniff computers?
 

Quixotic

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I guess it depends on what method they use. If say they find a way of gaining access to your entire hard drive and start scanning for pirated files, I would have to say it's illegal. If they use something like the port used by your p2p program, which effectively allows public access to the files you share, I wouldn't think so.... they'd just be scanning to see what you have, just like everyone else. But then again, maybe that's just me :p

Originally posted by: Luagsch
Originally posted by: Quixotic
Originally posted by: Luagsch
so i took the advice i read somewhere and installed peerguardian (which has already blocked over 70 connections). so basically what they're doing is looking on my pc if i have something illegal. they just know i use a certain p2p-prog (right, they must know that, else they would just trying to connect and search for data on any computer!!!).
anyway even if they knew, that i was using a certain p2p-program they would interfier with my privacy, don't they? they just search without any legal base (for searching on my computer) for stuff...

now the question: is the riaa and mpaa (and the firms doing it for the riaa and mpaa) being sued for privacy infridgement (sp)????
if not, how much money could we make?

i don't know how useful peer guardian actually is... i don't think all 70, if any, are fromm MPAA/RIAA... i remember a post somewhere with a false alarm with what was actually a connection attempt from buy.com
i have a software firewall up and running. what peerguardian does is ban certain ip-ranges by the newest infos they have. so if somebody from that range tries to connect to my p2p-program (which is open on certain ports) than peerguardian blocks it... (or something like that...). sure there are some connect-attemps to ie too (like visiting www.riaa.org), but my question is not how to block but are they allow to do what they do...

 

Quixotic

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there was a pretty big thing a while back involving Blizzard's underhand pilfering of private data during one of their game releases... since the pirated version was released before the retail version, all the data sent back to them before the retail release date was effectively from pirated software... the courts made them stop what they were doing though =P
 

Luagsch

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Originally posted by: Quixotic
there was a pretty big thing a while back involving Blizzard's underhand pilfering of private data during one of their game releases... since the pirated version was released before the retail version, all the data sent back to them before the retail release date was effectively from pirated software... the courts made them stop what they were doing though =P
LMAO, lucky pirates :beer:
 

Quixotic

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Originally posted by: Luagsch
Originally posted by: Quixotic
there was a pretty big thing a while back involving Blizzard's underhand pilfering of private data during one of their game releases... since the pirated version was released before the retail version, all the data sent back to them before the retail release date was effectively from pirated software... the courts made them stop what they were doing though =P
LMAO, lucky pirates :beer:

not like they didn't fix the problem themselves by disabling the code ;)
 

Monel Funkawitz

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Isn't file sniffing and port checking considered hacking?

It isn't like they have a court order to allow them to do so.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Monel Funkawitz
Isn't file sniffing and port checking considered hacking?

It isn't like they have a court order to allow them to do so.

Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner. Using the DMCA they do not have to get a Court order. Now you see why the DMCA is so bad and the RIAA/MPAA exploiting it.

Note: Other Companies are explointing the DMCA as well. The Law was never written with the intent of having ink cartridges being "protected" by the Law either.


 

Monel Funkawitz

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That is pretty deep, McOwen. I never looked at it that way. Wow. This is gonna be tough.

I love music and I normally buy CD's alot. I will enjoy watching the RIAA die a slow and miserable death. Till then, I'm not buying one CD.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Monel Funkawitz
That is pretty deep, McOwen. I never looked at it that way. Wow. This is gonna be tough.

I love music and I normally buy CD's alot. I will enjoy watching the RIAA die a slow and miserable death. Till then, I'm not buying one CD.

This whole RIAA/MPAA/DMCA issue is the single most critical juncture facing humankind in the early goings of this new Digital Information Age. How it all plays out will be History Book fodder for many generations long after we are gone.