RIAA and schools downloading

Row1and

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Well, surprisingly enough, my school was on the list of "law breakers" who download music illegally on the internet. Did your school make the list, and do you think the RIAA is just doing this to scare people or are they really for real this time?

Also, we know that more about 19 of every 20 people have downloaded music illegally on the internet somehow, so what is the RIAA criteria for flagging people??

The lists of the schools are not the same. I've seen two different lists, and my school's ranked in differently on both lists as well as some other schools. Anyone know the legit list?
 

randomint

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1. Ohio University - 1,287
2. Purdue University - 1,068
3. University of Nebraska at Lincoln - 1,002
4. University of Tennessee at Knoxville - 959
5. University of South Carolina - 914
6. University of Massachusetts at Amherst - 897
7. Michigan State University - 753
8. Howard University - 572
9. North Carolina State University - 550
10. University of Wisconsin at Madison - 513
11. University of South Florida - 490
12. Syracuse University - 488
13. Northern Illinois University - 487
14. University of Wisconsin at Eau Claire - 473
15. Boston University - 470
16. Northern Michigan University - 457
17. Kent State University - 424
18. University of Michigan at Ann Arbor - 400
19. University of Texas at Austin - 371
20. North Dakota State University - 360
21. Indiana University - 353
22. Western Kentucky University - 353
23. Seton Hall University - 338
24. Arizona State University - 336
25. Marshall University - 331
 

Row1and

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Originally posted by: randomint
1. Ohio University - 1,287
2. Purdue University - 1,068
3. University of Nebraska at Lincoln - 1,002
4. University of Tennessee at Knoxville - 959
5. University of South Carolina - 914
6. University of Massachusetts at Amherst - 897
7. Michigan State University - 753
8. Howard University - 572
9. North Carolina State University - 550
10. University of Wisconsin at Madison - 513
11. University of South Florida - 490
12. Syracuse University - 488
13. Northern Illinois University - 487
14. University of Wisconsin at Eau Claire - 473
15. Boston University - 470
16. Northern Michigan University - 457
17. Kent State University - 424
18. University of Michigan at Ann Arbor - 400
19. University of Texas at Austin - 371
20. North Dakota State University - 360
21. Indiana University - 353
22. Western Kentucky University - 353
23. Seton Hall University - 338
24. Arizona State University - 336
25. Marshall University - 331

nice, i saw this list also. another lists North dakota at number 12
 

Gooberlx2

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Wait, what is this list? Staff that have downloaded or just students or songs downloaded used in a school function? Funny that my alma mater (UW- Eau Claire) is up on there.
 

PokerGuy

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It's about time some of these students and schools get together to pay for proper legal representation and blow these cases out of the water. The cases are extremely weak, at best the RIAA could show that something was uploaded/downloaded from a particular IP addy, that doesn't pin it down to an individual, nor does it pin it down to a particular PC, as there could be routers in play. Individually, the RIAA knows they can simply extort the students because it would cost so much to defend yourself in court, even if you prevail. But if some of the defendants get together they could mount a proper defense.
 

randomint

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
It's about time some of these students and schools get together to pay for proper legal representation and blow these cases out of the water. The cases are extremely weak, at best the RIAA could show that something was uploaded/downloaded from a particular IP addy, that doesn't pin it down to an individual, nor does it pin it down to a particular PC, as there could be routers in play. Individually, the RIAA knows they can simply extort the students because it would cost so much to defend yourself in court, even if you prevail. But if some of the defendants get together they could mount a proper defense.

i think they can point out the specific individuals responsible for uploading content to the campus servers. their case is not as weak as you think.
 

Sukhoi

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I don't believe that list. UT, which is the same size as OSU, has 1/3 the downloaders? Right. :roll:

Wait, that's OU not OSU. So UT, which is well over twice the size of OU, has 1/3 the downloaders.
 

dud

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Most college students have no (0) assets or ability to pay a judgement. The RIAA is probably seeking to settle out of court. Let them waste their resources suing people who have no ability to pay.
 

Mallow

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Not sure if the RIAA will ever learn how to truly work a new business model that works. Believe me suing college kids is not a viable business model in the eye's of Americans.
 

Imported

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Originally posted by: randomint
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
It's about time some of these students and schools get together to pay for proper legal representation and blow these cases out of the water. The cases are extremely weak, at best the RIAA could show that something was uploaded/downloaded from a particular IP addy, that doesn't pin it down to an individual, nor does it pin it down to a particular PC, as there could be routers in play. Individually, the RIAA knows they can simply extort the students because it would cost so much to defend yourself in court, even if you prevail. But if some of the defendants get together they could mount a proper defense.

i think they can point out the specific individuals responsible for uploading content to the campus servers. their case is not as weak as you think.

I remember at my campus all the computers were tracked via IP address and MAC address. For anything wireless, you had to submit your MAC and your name, student ID, etc. to get onto the network. I believe the wired connections were the same. I remember looking over the logs that the network admins had and you could see who they flagged for using too much bandwidth or illegal distributing, etc.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: Mallow
Not sure if the RIAA will ever learn how to truly work a new business model that works. Believe me suing college kids is not a viable business model in the eye's of Americans.

I'm pretty sure their "business model" is selling music.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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2. Purdue University - 1,068

They have no idea... Purdue is a bunch of engineers, CS students, whatever, they get what they want pretty much.
 

GeekDrew

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<chuckle> I know a bunch of students (and some staff) at OU... the students all think that it's hilarious, and the staff (though none of the ones I know are in IT or legal) are tremendously worried about what the RIAA might do to the school.

There are viruses all over the network down there though, I could probably sustain a full time "repair" job or two, just disinfecting machines in one or two dorms. I lost count long ago of how many people from OU have asked me to help them get viruses off of their computer.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Mallow
Not sure if the RIAA will ever learn how to truly work a new business model that works. Believe me suing college kids is not a viable business model in the eye's of Americans.

bingo, their thugish behavior is probably sparking a boycott by many.
 

Row1and

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Row1and

Also, we know that more about 19 of every 20 people have downloaded music illegally on the internet somehow,

you made that up

i know I did... but it's farily close. Everyone I talk to has either DL music or something
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: Mallow
Not sure if the RIAA will ever learn how to truly work a new business model that works. Believe me suing college kids is not a viable business model in the eye's of Americans.

I'm pretty sure their "business model" is selling music.

But they refuse to embrace new technologies that people obviously want. This is what will hold them in the past and allow new artists to shape the music scape of the future.

Today, there is zero reason for a musician to sign on with the RIAA, same as there is no reason for a software developer to sign with a publisher. The internet makes this entirely unnecessary.