rhode island never wanted to join the union.

[Anarchist420]

if they didnt join the union, then they wouldve had to have defended themselves against the rest of the union's aggression because of the waterways no longer being controlled by the States (the U.S. govt then had to control the whole eastern seaboard and the waterways past the border). the constitution stole rhode island's sovereignty and being a prosperous State, 11/12 voted against the u.s. constitution at direct referendum.

rhode island was the first to be conquered by the u.s. govt so why do so many people say that canada was the first victim of u.s. govt aggression?

 

[IronWing]

Have you considered writing a manifesto?

 

[EagleKeeper]

On this date, Rhode Island became the 13th state to enter the Union after ratifying the Constitution. Ironically, the new state’s late arrival came after the new federal government commenced on April 1, 1789, and the First Congress (1789–1791) had already passed 12 proposed amendments to the Constitution. Rhode Island was the only state not to send a representative to the Constitutional Convention, which approved the document on September 17, 1787. Nine states, or a three-quarters majority, were needed to ratify the Constitution. On June 21, 1788, the Constitution became the official governing document of the United States when New Hampshire ratified it. The “Hope State” made 11 attempts to hold a constitutional ratifying convention and held unsuccessful state referendums. The first referendum rejected the Constitution by ten to one. At great length, Rhode Island finally approved the Constitution with provisional amendments. On August 31, 1790, the state’s lone Representative, Benjamin Bourne, arrived in Philadelphia fashionably late to the First Congress.

Typical A420 failure to fully read/comprehend history.

They approved it after 12 votes;

the US Government never conquered RI.

 

[Anarchist420]

Typical A420 failure to fully read/comprehend history.

11 to 1 vs 10 to 1 is not a really big difference. i had thought it was 11 to 1 but i was less than 1% off.

the US Government never conquered RI.

it was going to.

They approved it after 12 votes;

the RI legislature approved it by a very small majority and only because the u.s. govt had to use RI's waterways in order to carry out some of the powers of the constitution.

 

[EagleKeeper]

RI was rejecting because it was being controlled by Agricultural landowners that did not want to utilize the new government form of currency. They were already in deep debt and to accept the US form of currency would have exposed their debts and they would loose their power.

Where are you getting the RI waterways issue and the fact that the government was forcing them?

There was no US government at the time; that was the purpose of the constitution to authorize a government.

 

[brycejones]

Rhode Island.....Your thought for the minute.

 

[Anarchist420]

Where are you getting the RI waterways issue and the fact that the government was forcing them? There was no US government at the time; that was the purpose of the constitution to authorize a government.

they were going to be put outside the revenue limits of the united state and that wouldve lead to border conflicts with the U.S. govt trying to collect revenue from goods coming in from overseas.

 

[brycejones]

The Comanche didn't want to leave Georgia where is your post about that?

 

[EagleKeeper]

they were going to be put outside the revenue limits of the united state and that wouldve lead to border conflicts with the U.S. govt trying to collect revenue from goods coming in from overseas.

Again, where are you getting that information from?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I don't blame Rhode Island, as I've never felt the need to join a union either.

 

[z1ggy]

Again, where are you getting that information from?

The voices man... The voices...!

 

[rudeguy]

I don't blame Rhode Island, as I've never felt the need to join a union either.

Norma Rae vs Rhode Island

Who would win?

 

[soulcougher73]

So? This is past history. Try living in the now. We cant change the past.

 

[Anarchist420]

Again, where are you getting that information from?

ive posted this before but im posting it again.

there wouldve had to have been a blockade for the u.s. govt to enforce its constitutional powers because of the eastern seabord's geo characteristics.

So? This is past history. Try living in the now. We cant change the past.

im living under legislation that i and many other people dont expressly consent to. further, it kind of does relate to now because it shows that everything the govt has done, under the U.S. Constitution, has been illegal and that the govt cant be trusted.

and i think it is also worth noting that the legislatures of the ratifying States were selected by not more than 1/4 of white men and then a fraction of that 1/4 opposed the Constitution meaning that the Constitution went against the Declaration of Independence. the Constitution was anti-Declaration because the former established a nation-State while the Declaration opposed the building of a nationState.

 

[momeNt]

I don't blame Rhode Island, as I've never felt the need to join a union either.

Agreed.

It really sucks that the founding fathers forgot to add that the United States need to be re-affirmed like every 50 years. Initial consent of the governed =/= future consent of the governed.

 

[EagleKeeper]

ive posted this before but im posting it again.

there wouldve had to have been a blockade for the u.s. govt to enforce its constitutional powers because of the eastern seabord's geo characteristics.

Please review other sources of historical information before declaring off another forum statements that may be based on some book.

1) Did you read the book that is referenced in that forum
2) Have you lookup of other sources via Google as a starting point.

IF RI did not want to join; why should the US have to force it;

The coastline is small and RI would be surrounded by 3 other states to implement US policies as needed.