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Revive an old PC133 system

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bengalih

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I'm building a new 64-bit Dual Core to replace my 1.1 Athlon system, but I figure it still has some life left in it. I think I might have some problems with my MoBo, and was thinking of replacing some components to use it as a backup PC.

I don't want to replace what I don't have to, so I want to keep same PSU, case, memory, drives, etc.

I would like to spend about $100 (no more than $150) on a CPU/Mobo combo that would be a nice step up from a 1.1 AMD on an Asus K7V. It doesn't need to be AMD or Socket A, as I hope to upgrade both the CPU and MoBo.

The big qualification is I want to use my PC133 SDRAM, so the board must support that. I'm hoping to find one that has
- USB 2.0
- IEEE 1394
- ATA 100/133
- Integrated sound (not major)

Any ideas?

Thanks!
 
That first one is OOS, and as for the second - I'd rather not buy a 5-year old board that is refurbished. The first one does look promising though.

Any other ideas for a MoBo with the features listed in the OP that can be combined with a 2+GHz CPU for around $100?

thanks!
 
You're out of luck then, because there are no PC133 or combo memory boards produced, anymore, and inventories have been depleted in the retail channels for many months now.

I have two KM2M Combo-L boards new in box that I purchased two years ago but never used, been in my closet since. I may be willing to part with one if you're interested. I'd give you a 7-day DOA guarantee.
 
Originally posted by: tcsenter
You're out of luck then, because there are no PC133 or combo memory boards produced, anymore, and inventories have been depleted in the retail channels for many months now.

I have two KM2M Combo-L boards new in box that I purchased two years ago but never used, been in my closet since. I may be willing to part with one if you're interested. I'd give you a 7-day DOA guarantee.
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Yeah, looks that way. I'd buy a used one, but obviously would want to pay cheap, or at least get a DOA guarantee. I might be interested if yours are NIB.

Send me a PM about what you would want for one.

Thanks
 
Originally posted by: bengalih
I'm building a new 64-bit Dual Core to replace my 1.1 Athlon system, but I figure it still has some life left in it. I think I might have some problems with my MoBo, and was thinking of replacing some components to use it as a backup PC.

I don't want to replace what I don't have to, so I want to keep same PSU, case, memory, drives, etc.

I would like to spend about $100 (no more than $150) on a CPU/Mobo combo that would be a nice step up from a 1.1 AMD on an Asus K7V. It doesn't need to be AMD or Socket A, as I hope to upgrade both the CPU and MoBo.

The big qualification is I want to use my PC133 SDRAM, so the board must support that. I'm hoping to find one that has
- USB 2.0
- IEEE 1394
- ATA 100/133
- Integrated sound (not major)

Any ideas?

Thanks!
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Dump the PC133 ram if you want a big performance increase. That speed athlon has pretty much already maxed out the PC133. Assuming you have a socket A cpu, pick up an nforce or nforce 2 mobo with integrated graphics if needed (nforce 2 is possible) then pick up a 512 stick of DDR for ~$20.
Or go for a socket 754 sempron combo if you're going to replace the cpu; socket A athlons/semprons aren't cheap anymore.

Whatever you do....DON'T STICK WITH PC133! It severely limits performance, a good DDR chipset with DDR will blow away the performance of any pc133 system, and you'll spend just as much buying legacy parts to continue use of your pc133 than you would just buying new memory. Low speed 512MB DDR sticks are cheap.

Check out tom's cpu charts...
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html

Scroll down to the bototm. I don't think tom tested any sdr chipsets, but notice that a 1.4ghz athlon with a 200mhz fsb and ddr400 has a substantial improvement over a 1.4ghz athlon with a 133mhz fsb and ddr333. That's not even the memory increase that would be seen from going from sdr to ddr, yet the performance improvement it still huge. That, and an nforce2's performance and heads and tails above the performance of most other athlon xp chipsets.
 
It's looking more and more like you're right, not only is the PC133 slower, but it severly limits my Mobo options.

I have speced out something like this:

Epox EP-8KDA3J Mobo 73
AMD Sempron 2600+ 67
(socket 754 BX)

512 PC3200 DDR 400 30

That's 170 bucks and I'd really like to stay within the $150 limit total.

I would really like IEEE 1394 and Gigabit ethernet integrated into the Mobo, sound is a plus, but if not, I have a spare card.

Any ideas on how to cut some corners or a different Mobo/CPU combo that would be comparable or close performance?
 
Originally posted by: bengalih
It's looking more and more like you're right, not only is the PC133 slower, but it severly limits my Mobo options.

I have speced out something like this:

Epox EP-8KDA3J Mobo 73
AMD Sempron 2600+ 67
(socket 754 BX)

512 PC3200 DDR 400 30

That's 170 bucks and I'd really like to stay within the $150 limit total.

I would really like IEEE 1394 and Gigabit ethernet integrated into the Mobo, sound is a plus, but if not, I have a spare card.

Any ideas on how to cut some corners or a different Mobo/CPU combo that would be comparable or close performance?
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Look around a little, there have been sempron 3100+ and motherbaord combos for around $100 (maybe someone in the hot deals forum will know?). That, and you can find a motherboard cheaper than that epox.

Oh, and you can find cheaper ram at times, tigerdirect was selling 512MB sticks for $10 after rebate at one point.
 
Originally posted by: Fox5
Look around a little, there have been sempron 3100+ and motherbaord combos for around $100 (maybe someone in the hot deals forum will know?). That, and you can find a motherboard cheaper than that epox.

Oh, and you can find cheaper ram at times, tigerdirect was selling 512MB sticks for $10 after rebate at one point.
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The Sempron 3100+ deals are for the non-BX chips. The BX chips have 64-bit support, so they tend to run more. They are the same chip, but ones produced after june 1 believe have the 64-bit instruction set. I figure if I am going to upgrade to that I might as well do the 64...

If it was between anything below the 3100+ (64 or not) that Celeron D sounds like a good bet.

Rebates are definitely the way to go if you buy piece by piece over time...maybe there will be some nice holiday deals still coming.

 
Originally posted by: bengalih
Originally posted by: Fox5
Look around a little, there have been sempron 3100+ and motherbaord combos for around $100 (maybe someone in the hot deals forum will know?). That, and you can find a motherboard cheaper than that epox.

Oh, and you can find cheaper ram at times, tigerdirect was selling 512MB sticks for $10 after rebate at one point.
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The Sempron 3100+ deals are for the non-BX chips. The BX chips have 64-bit support, so they tend to run more. They are the same chip, but ones produced after june 1 believe have the 64-bit instruction set. I figure if I am going to upgrade to that I might as well do the 64...

If it was between anything below the 3100+ (64 or not) that Celeron D sounds like a good bet.

Rebates are definitely the way to go if you buy piece by piece over time...maybe there will be some nice holiday deals still coming.
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Is that Celeron D 64 bit? Anyhow, seems like you're going a bit far with trying to keep your old pc working, you're practically building a whole new one.

Personally I would go for the sempron just cause it runs cooler, but it's not like the athlon you're currently running was a cool chip for its time. (though it does generate less heat than a celeron d)
 
Yes you're right, it is starting to be a whole new PC....

I'm rethinking my strategy actually, instead of spending about $1300 on my new dual-core system, I think I may spend about $200 replacing my MoBo,CPU,RAM now and going with possibly 64-bit sempron.

Then in a few months, I should be able to build my "new" system for closer to $1000 (allows me to rebate shop too). Then I have two 64-bit systems that should last me for another few years.

I'm still considering all the options here for my upgrade.

And no the Celeron D's are not 64-bit, only Sempron socket 754s with the BX designation.
 
Originally posted by: bengalih
no the Celeron D's are not 64-bit, only Sempron socket 754s with the BX designation.
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Incorrect.
Specifications
Processor Speed 341 / 2.93GHz
Processor Interface Socket 775
Bus Speed 533MHz
Features
Execute Disable Bit
Can help to prevent some classes of viruses and worms that exploit buffer overrun vulnerabilities thus helping to improve the overall security of the system.
Intel® Extended Memory 64 Technology
Processors with Intel EM64T allow platforms to access larger amounts of memory and will support 64-bit extended operating systems.
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