REV 3+ Mushkin worth every penny! Must read if you need good RAM!

[Caveman2001]

Well, I recently purchased 2 128mb sticks of Rev 3. Mushkin Ram. I was looking foward to running my FSB at 150. I have tested my mb to post and run at 165 with some Tonicom with the slowest settings. However, I returned that because it would not run at 166. So, after returning that I bought the Mushkin.

After initial testing, the mushkin would not post at 151FSB at all at the fastest settings. It would post at 150FSB fastest though. So, I'm thinkin ok, this is what I paid for, no problem. Well, I got speratic lock ups and weird boots in the middle of running things, so I decided to start cranking the RAM down 1mhz at a time. At 149 I still received some lock ups here and there. Once I put the RAM to 148fSb all is well.

I have since called Mushkin and they are going to let me upgrade to the Rev 3+ 256mb ram which sports the 7 ns chips instead of 7.5. I hope this stick will do what it claims. This is my 3rd purchase of ram now. I'm confident that this stick will be great.

Has anyone else out there tried the Rev.3+? What are your results?

 

[DARRIN]

Mine will do 154MHz but higher than the I start having problems. Not sure if it is the RAM or Northbridge though.

 

[Caveman2001]

That helps me to know that though. I'm pretty sure those 7.5ns chips were maxed out. Yours probably works fine at 150 then. One or both of my sticks are on the threshold at 150 and its to close obviously otherwise I wouldn't have had the instability. Thanks for the info. Anyone else have similar experiences?

 

[Caveman2001]

Well, I got my Rev 3+ Ram today and boy am I a happy camper.

My system is now sitting at 159FSB fastest settings.

If you're going to buy some Rev 3 ram go for the Rev 3+ . It's nice high quality ram. I did get the system to post at 164FSB fastest settings. However, I'm stable so far at 159FSB. Who's to say its not something in my system or my MB. I have good cooling, but I would have some ram that was verified to run faster to know for sure.

Hope this helps anyone looking for good high quality RAM.

I bought the 256MB stick with the "Heat spreader" on it.

 

[Dulanic]

Muskin is not worth every penny, my Crucial PC133 Cas2 does 163 Cas2 perfectly. Mushkin costs alot more then Crucial and its quite suprising but the Crucial usually OCs better.

 

[Insane3D]

Yup, just like Dulanic said. My 512mb of Crucial PC133 (7ns) runs @ 165mhz 24/7...not too shabby for ~$40 256mb sticks...how much is Mushkin Rev3?

 

[salman327]

<< how much is Mushkin Rev3? >>



Too much

 

[Kingofcomputer]

rev3+ is $99 for 256MB.
for that amount, you can buy more than two 256MB crucial.

If you're running memory intensive software, shouldn't double amount of memory be better than the whole system running at overclock speed with half memory?

 

[MortaniuS]

i have a generic stick of micron 7e that runs fine at 160mhz ;-) best 29.99 i ever spent.

 

[Caveman2001]

One big thing you guys are missing,,,,,,,,,,,,this stuff is guaranteed to run at 150,,,,,,,,,the crucial brand doesn't guarantee that.

Obviously, the crucial is good stuff too, but it doesn't come with the guarantee.

BTW, I don't see any 7ns chips of RAM at Crucials site anywhere. Do they not sell ram with 7ns chips anymore?

 

[MortaniuS]

cas2 = 7ns

7e- 7ns
75- 7.5ns

 

[YaKuZa]

<< cas2 = 7ns

7e- 7ns
75- 7.5ns >>



are u sure thats true? because on crucials website, the description says 7.5 for the modules ending in 7E and 75

 

[Caveman2001]

He's wrong,

The 7 e memory is 7.5ns RAM (currently). It's written clearly on their web site in the RAM description. However, I don't know if at one time or another they used 7ns chips for that RAM, but it looks like they absolutely use only 7.5ns chips right now. I would also like to point out that my results can vary from others results. Just because I'm only able to hit 159 stabily doesn't mean that someone else won't be able to go higher.

3 main points to mention why this Mushkin is great stuff.

1. It's guaranteed to run 150FSB @ fastest.
2. The 256mb stick comes with a heat spreader jacket that helps overclockign (extra $10-15 value)
3. The RAM is doing 159 at the fastest settings (2-2-2)

I'm not trying to defend Mushkin at all here. If Crucial RAM can overclock just as well for a lot cheaper then that's fantastic. What I am trying to get across is that this is very good RAM and you would think that people in this forum would like to know how this new product from Mushkin stacks up. I paid more, but I also received a bit more too. It's up to the individual to decide if the pros outway the cons. For me, buying this product for a bit more was more important than gambling on something else. You can't return the crucial PC133 because it won't overclock to 150. I didn't want to take that risk.

 

[Dulanic]

<< 3 main points to mention why this Mushkin is great stuff.

1. It's guaranteed to run 150FSB @ fastest.
2. The 256mb stick comes with a heat spreader jacket that helps overclockign (extra $10-15 value)
3. The RAM is doing 159 at the fastest settings (2-2-2) >>



Maybe Crucial isnt guarenteed to do 150.... but I can almost guarantee any PC133 Cas2 stick of theirs will do OVER 150 easy. The heat spreader obviously isnt that important if Crucial OCs higher. And don't forget Mushkin/Mosel RAM has some issues with some MBs like the IWill KK266... would only do 142 stable on my KK266, and miscounted the amount of RAM on my A7V133 (These are known issues too it wasnt just me, Asus fixed the problem on the A7V133 tho). But my Crucial does over 160. Mushkin used to be excellent, but its just not worth it anymore. For the price you can buy 512MB of Mushkin you can buy 1024MB of Crucial.... and I am 99.9% sure 3 or 4 of thoose sticks will top or be near to 160.

 

[Caveman2001]

Dude, you're insane!

1. I use an IWILL KK266 right now with this Mushkin RAM running at 159FSB.

2. You aren't sure of anything about crucial(i.e. blowing smoke). You have no evidence to back up anything but your own system experience. Unless you've done extensive testing of thousands of sticks to prove 75% or more of crucial ram is overclockable.

3. A heat spreader is advantagious or it wouldn't be in the market!

4. All RAM is different. You bake the chips. You can't predict exactly how well all RAM will work based strictly on BRAND. The Mushkin chips are HAND PICKED. They guarantee because they pre-test the ram. That involves labor. More Labor = higher costs (economics 101).

5. Who are you to guarantee anything? Are you going to take the RAM that won't overclock back? I think not.

6. To say Crucial overclocks higher than Mushkin based on my tests and your tests alone is simply ludicrous.

7. Quantity does not equal quality.

8. I will gladly pay more for guarantee's and better customer service if I think it's worth it.


I run good ram in my machine and its called Mushkin Rev. 3+

 

[Dulanic]

<< Dude, you're insane!

1. I use an IWILL KK266 right now with this Mushkin RAM running at 159FSB.

2. You aren't sure of anything about crucial(i.e. blowing smoke). You have no evidence to back up anything but your own system experience. Unless you've done extensive testing of thousands of sticks to prove 75% or more of crucial ram is overclockable.

3. A heat spreader is advantagious or it wouldn't be in the market!

4. All RAM is different. You bake the chips. You can't predict exactly how well all RAM will work based strictly on BRAND. The Mushkin chips are HAND PICKED. They guarantee because they pre-test the ram. That involves labor. More Labor = higher costs (economics 101).

5. Who are you to guarantee anything? Are you going to take the RAM that won't overclock back? I think not.

6. To say Crucial overclocks higher than Mushkin based on my tests and your tests alone is simply ludicrous.

7. Quantity does not equal quality.

8. I will gladly pay more for guarantee's and better customer service if I think it's worth it.


I run good ram in my machine and its called Mushkin Rev. 3+ >>



For #1... Rev3 uses Infinieon chips... but the Iwill does have a problem with the Mosel Rev2 and Mushkin Rev2 which use Mosel chips.

#2 No Im not basing this on just my experience, Look at all the people running Iwill boards or AMD 760 boards with very high FSBs (160+) a large majority of them are using Crucial.

#3 I didnt say its not adventageous, Im just saying Ive seen boards running 170-180 FSB... none of them Ive seen used Mushkin, all used Crucial and they dont have the heatspreader.

#4 Yes all RAM is different I never argueed that.

#5 Fine Ill reword it, Id bet you instead of I guarentee.

#6 I build systems for people in my spare time, Im not basing it just on my experience.

#7 Nope but in my experience Double the Quantity of about the Same Quality = better.

#8 Better Customer Service? I think not, they both have EXCELLENT customer service, I wouldnt say one is better.

 

[Caveman2001]

You know Dulanic,

You're absolutely right.

 

[Insane3D]

The Crucial -7E is 7ns ram. I am aware of what it says on Crucial's site, but the chips themselves are marked as 7ns...

&quot;A heat spreader is advantagious or it wouldn't be in the market!&quot;


Ohhhh...of course!