Reuters Poll: Young white males are now abandoning the Democrats

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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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I don't see this frenzy of hate speech against whites. What I see are some attention grabbing headlines filled with empty nothingness. Are you really scared as a white guy in America? Am I really oblivious to this war on whites? I just don't feel persecuted. I've seen examples of my white privilege in action throughout my years. All I see are plusses to being a white male in America today and for the foreseeable future. I look at Congress, I look at CEO's, business owners, etc...mostly all white males. I see nothing encroaching on that anytime soon. Maybe I'm missing something. Or maybe this war on whites is a brilliant creation of Republicans. Whatever it is, the Dems should focus on economic issues and things like free tuition vs trans rights for example. Sure fight for trans rights when in power, just don't die on that hill getting there.

Don't mistake what the alt-right claims Dems are doing for what Dems are doing.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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So, you want Dems to win? Really? And they should take the advice of a great Trump fluffer because...
I'm a realist, and I believe that Bernie would've possibly defeated Trump in 2016. Luckily that match up never happened. You can look up my post history, I made it no secret Bernie had a legit chance to beat Trump, he was polling higher on Gallup's personality traits than Hillary. I'll admit that if Trump starts to falter on the economy, then it's not out of the realm of possibilities that a Bernie-clone with good charisma and energy could make waves if they can scalp their neoliberal opponents and make their campaign all about jobs and how they can do better than Trump (hard to do though in this economy).
 

fskimospy

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I'm a realist, and I believe that Bernie would've possibly defeated Trump in 2016. Luckily that match up never happened. You can look up my post history, I made it no secret Bernie had a legit chance to beat Trump, he was polling higher on Gallup's personality traits than Hillary. I'll admit that if Trump starts to falter on the economy, then it's not out of the realm of possibilities that a Bernie-clone with good charisma and energy could make waves if they can scalp their neoliberal opponents and make their campaign all about jobs and how they can do better than Trump (hard to do though in this economy).

He’s a realist. He just believes in a magical climate change conspiracy that even his own source for it denies.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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I'm a realist, and I believe that Bernie would've possibly defeated Trump in 2016. Luckily that match up never happened. You can look up my post history, I made it no secret Bernie had a legit chance to beat Trump, he was polling higher on Gallup's personality traits than Hillary. I'll admit that if Trump starts to falter on the economy, then it's not out of the realm of possibilities that a Bernie-clone with good charisma and energy could make waves if they can scalp their neoliberal opponents and make their campaign all about jobs and how they can do better than Trump (hard to do though in this economy).

Your switch to concern trolling mode is unconvincing...
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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I don't see this frenzy of hate speech against whites. What I see are some attention grabbing headlines filled with empty nothingness. Are you really scared as a white guy in America? Am I really oblivious to this war on whites? I just don't feel persecuted. I've seen examples of my white privilege in action throughout my years. All I see are plusses to being a white male in America today and for the foreseeable future. I look at Congress, I look at CEO's, business owners, etc...mostly all white males. I see nothing encroaching on that anytime soon. Maybe I'm missing something. Or maybe this war on whites is a brilliant creation of Republicans. Whatever it is, the Dems should focus on economic issues and things like free tuition vs trans rights for example. Sure fight for trans rights when in power, just don't die on that hill getting there.
I think what you are seeing is a product of testosterone and males in general, not necessarily skin color regarding all of the successful white males. For example, I read that most patents and small businesses created are by men, not women since men are willing to incur more risk. As far as white privilege, I don't believe in that. The reason some whites get hired more is because of how social cohesion and fear works on a biological level - people are less afraid of people who look/act like themselves. This can be any trait not just skin color - intellect, socioeconomic status, culture, religion. I've seen people at my own workplace hire people strictly based on the college they went to, no BS. Like the saying goes - it's who you know. People usually want to be around people who are more like them and everyone is susceptible to this phenomenon because it can even be at a subconscious level. It transcends race, however. For example, all my neighbors are white Trump supporters and I'm not white. However, they invite me over for dinner all the time. All we really have in common are political beliefs and enjoying each others' company. I bet they would hire me in a heartbeat over someone just as qualified and white.

Regarding should you be worried as a white male? Well, it depends where you live (i.e. Blue State where you're a minority - uhhh yeah.). Regarding the media fanning the flames, they absolutely have.

Leftist MSM:
Hillary Clinton doesn't need white men:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/03/18/hillary-clinton-doesnt-need-white-men/
Clinton not counting on winning white men:
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/291524-clinton-not-counting-on-white-men
After Alabama it's time for democrats to get over their white working class fixation:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/after...o-get-over-their-white-working-class-fixation
White men must be stopped - the very future of mankind depends on it:
https://www.salon.com/2015/12/22/wh...y_future_of_the_planet_depends_on_it_partner/

Right media reporting on events that happened:
Straight White Men are Banned From an Equality Conference
VIDEO: Racist Activist And Friends Issue Filthy Threat if Whites Won’t Pay Reparations…
College Celebrates People Who Want To “Breed White People Out Of Existence” [VIDEO]
Teacher: Minorities Don’t Have to Show Up or Hand in Assignments on Time Because of “White Privilege”
Actress Patricia Clarkson: White Male Actors Should “Shut Up and Sit in the Corner”
Obama’s Lackey Tells Students “There Are Too Many Whites In Top Government jobs.”
Rap Video Shows White Cop Being Tortured, Hanged, But Rapper Claims He’s Not “Inspiring Violence”


 

fskimospy

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So the ‘leftist MSM’ was saying true things? Obama won without winning white men, after all.

Durrrrr.
 

pete6032

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Anyone else find it a little hypocritical that speedy is calling liberals "snowflakes," while at the same time telling straight white men that they should be outraged and afraid of mainstream media articles?
 

SP33Demon

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Anyone else find it a little hypocritical that speedy is calling liberals "snowflakes," while at the same time telling straight white men that they should be outraged and afraid of mainstream media articles?
I don't think I called anyone a snowflake. Please link it.

Also, I said that they should be scared if they live in a blue state as a minority. MSM is fanning the flames against whites, I linked to you 4 articles that said whites aren't needed anymore for the Democrats, they are disposable and need to be stopped. What Democrats don't realize is that many Hispanics are white as well. Keep pushing that narrative and you're going to lose more than 28% of Hispanics to Trump in 2020.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Naw, he's gonna do squats during the Star Spangled Banner at the end of the fireworks display tomorrow.
Hey that's a great idea. Hot dam. I do plan to put up my huge flagpole again since a windstorm ripped it off my house.
 

MrSquished

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I think what you are seeing is a product of testosterone and males in general, not necessarily skin color regarding all of the successful white males. For example, I read that most patents and small businesses created are by men, not women since men are willing to incur more risk. As far as white privilege, I don't believe in that. The reason some whites get hired more is because of how social cohesion and fear works on a biological level - people are less afraid of people who look/act like themselves. This can be any trait not just skin color - intellect, socioeconomic status, culture, religion. I've seen people at my own workplace hire people strictly based on the college they went to, no BS. Like the saying goes - it's who you know. People usually want to be around people who are more like them and everyone is susceptible to this phenomenon because it can even be at a subconscious level. It transcends race, however. For example, all my neighbors are white Trump supporters and I'm not white. However, they invite me over for dinner all the time. All we really have in common are political beliefs and enjoying each others' company. I bet they would hire me in a heartbeat over someone just as qualified and white.

Regarding should you be worried as a white male? Well, it depends where you live (i.e. Blue State where you're a minority - uhhh yeah.). Regarding the media fanning the flames, they absolutely have.

Leftist MSM:
Hillary Clinton doesn't need white men:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/03/18/hillary-clinton-doesnt-need-white-men/
Clinton not counting on winning white men:
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/291524-clinton-not-counting-on-white-men
After Alabama it's time for democrats to get over their white working class fixation:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/after...o-get-over-their-white-working-class-fixation
White men must be stopped - the very future of mankind depends on it:
https://www.salon.com/2015/12/22/wh...y_future_of_the_planet_depends_on_it_partner/

Right media reporting on events that happened:
Straight White Men are Banned From an Equality Conference
VIDEO: Racist Activist And Friends Issue Filthy Threat if Whites Won’t Pay Reparations…
College Celebrates People Who Want To “Breed White People Out Of Existence” [VIDEO]
Teacher: Minorities Don’t Have to Show Up or Hand in Assignments on Time Because of “White Privilege”
Actress Patricia Clarkson: White Male Actors Should “Shut Up and Sit in the Corner”
Obama’s Lackey Tells Students “There Are Too Many Whites In Top Government jobs.”
Rap Video Shows White Cop Being Tortured, Hanged, But Rapper Claims He’s Not “Inspiring Violence”



I live in NJ in the most diverse city in the nation, in a neighborhood where I am in the minority by far. And it doesn't bother me at all. Why should it bother me? I don't feel worried or persecuted lol What do I have to worry about exactly so I can start to look out for it?

Anyway, this neighborhood will slowly turn whiter, due to its proximity to NYC and transportation, and my condo will go up in value dramatically and I definitely won't be too worried then either.

The articles about the demographics on voting are just that, articles on the changing demographics of the electorate. No big deal. The 'White Men Must be Stopped' article was mostly just a headline with a dramatic byline. Reading it there is nothing to worry about. Read it and tell me you are still nervous for white people afterwards.

Now any other threats made against someone or people just because they are white should be treated accordingly. Minorities get threats all the damn time, and they carry weight behind them. There are going to be some favors returned. Any violence should be dealt with and prosecuted of course. Nobody is saying violence against whites should be allowed or go unpunished. There will be bad apples on all sides brother. I hope they are all caught and put away, whatever color or gender.

What exactly do I have to fear. I'm still not sure.
 

SP33Demon

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I live in NJ in the most diverse city in the nation, in a neighborhood where I am in the minority by far. And it doesn't bother me at all. Why should it bother me? I don't feel worried or persecuted lol What do I have to worry about exactly so I can start to look out for it?

Anyway, this neighborhood will slowly turn whiter, due to its proximity to NYC and transportation, and my condo will go up in value dramatically and I definitely won't be too worried then either.

The articles about the demographics on voting are just that, articles on the changing demographics of the electorate. No big deal. The 'White Men Must be Stopped' article was mostly just a headline with a dramatic byline. Reading it there is nothing to worry about. Read it and tell me you are still nervous for white people afterwards.

Now any other threats made against someone or people just because they are white should be treated accordingly. Minorities get threats all the damn time, and they carry weight behind them. There are going to be some favors returned. Any violence should be dealt with and prosecuted of course. Nobody is saying violence against whites should be allowed or go unpunished. There will be bad apples on all sides brother. I hope they are all caught and put away, whatever color or gender.

What exactly do I have to fear. I'm still not sure.
Interesting, I actually grew up in NJ. The property taxes are insane. I don't know how you put up with that, man. Plus, if you ever sell your place and want to leave NJ dings you with an exit tax as well. Not to mention now your taxes just went up to support its "sanctuary city" status. We won't even get into the tolls going up to fund certain things. But I'm guessing you're making pretty good bank to afford real estate up there so it's moot.

Nah I never said you should look out personally, but there is a small backlash against whites fueled by the media. If you're in a place like Jersey City, I'd be... alert. Areas like Hoboken or Union City? You're fine. I agree there are bad apples on both sides for sure. I just find the media trying to incite hate against certain people based on skin color to be disingenuous and slimy. Nobody cares except the gullible, but the media didn't get the memo.
 

Zorba

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So what I think you're saying is that you're not seeing this trend in your social circle, fair enough. How do you feel about MSM specifically attacking white males with articles like "37 things white people need to stop ruining in 2018" or "White men must be stopped" or "Why can't we hate white men?" Are you comfortable knowing that MSM is putting out the dog whistle for people to hate you because of your skin color, something you cannot change?

Since when did Buzzfeed become Main Stream Media? Is a shitty clickbait website with no editorial staff (at least it seems). At absolute best it is on the level of TMZ or an MTV "news" show.
 

JSt0rm

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Interesting, I actually grew up in NJ. The property taxes are insane. I don't know how you put up with that, man. Plus, if you ever sell your place and want to leave NJ dings you with an exit tax as well.

Where the “NJ Exit Tax” Came From
New Jersey originally passed this legislation under the guidance of former Governor Jim McGreevy. At the time, the objective was to ensure that anyone moving out of state could not do so without first paying taxes on income gained from the sale of their home.

Over the years, this concept has taken root in the state, with the result being that residents who are relocating believe they are paying an additional tax (what people call the NJ exit tax) on the sale of their homes as they move out of state.

Instead, it is really a prepayment of state taxes you they already owe, based on profit from the sale.


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do you even know how stupid you are?
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Since when did Buzzfeed become Main Stream Media? Is a shitty clickbait website with no editorial staff (at least it seems). At absolute best it is on the level of TMZ or an MTV "news" show.
Well they managed to piss off h3h3 on videos that got 8+ million views, such as:
Why Buzzfeed hates Men:
https://youtu.be/T77frLL_bsg

Oh, and speaking of MTV, they hate white guys as well (also managed to piss off h3h3 after the Buzzfeed vid with this one that has over 8 million views):
https://youtu.be/G1IewlAi7dA
"MTV just put out a fucking video that makes 'TAN' from Buzzfeed look like a fucking tolerant saint in comparison!"
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Where the “NJ Exit Tax” Came From
New Jersey originally passed this legislation under the guidance of former Governor Jim McGreevy. At the time, the objective was to ensure that anyone moving out of state could not do so without first paying taxes on income gained from the sale of their home.

Over the years, this concept has taken root in the state, with the result being that residents who are relocating believe they are paying an additional tax (what people call the NJ exit tax) on the sale of their homes as they move out of state.

Instead, it is really a prepayment of state taxes you they already owe, based on profit from the sale.


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do you even know how stupid you are?
Yeah, and there's an easy workaround to this BS if you know someone out of state. Ask me how I know. Who's the stupid one now? lawlzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 

JSt0rm

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I have an accountant but I keep everything lawful. I guess the trump tard speed way is to cheat on your taxes.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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I have an accountant but I keep everything lawful. I guess the trump tard speed way is to cheat on your taxes.
Guess I'm just smarter than you bro. That exit tax is like a tax on the stupid. No offense.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Yeah, and there's an easy workaround to this BS if you know someone out of state. Ask me how I know. Who's the stupid one now? lawlzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
"Yes, I was wrong about the tax I falsely described as an exit tax, and by the way I am guilty of tax evasion."

That's an odd boast, but then you're an odd duck...
 

cytg111

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Guess I'm just smarter than you bro. That exit tax is like a tax on the stupid. No offense.
This from the same guy that keeps his companies (plural) in overseas shell companies for "tax reasons".
Don? Junior? Is that you? It would explain the stupid and Trump playbook.
Is trick'n treating for Halloween socialism? How much money you got pouring in from Russia?