Reuters crops knives and blood out of pictures, no media bias here!

dammitgibs

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/08/reuters-fake-photos-ihh-gaza-blockade-commandos/

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/art...o_Deletes_Another_Knife_-_And_a_Pool_of_Blood

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/art...op_a_Photo_to_Remove_a_Peace_Activists_Weapon

Photo that Reuters ran
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What's missing from the original picture?
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Again, photo Reuters ran....
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Original photo, with 100% more knifeyness
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Regardless of how you feel about the whole situation with Israel, this should chill you to the bone that the media is so blatantly spinning the story to tell the story they think should be told.
 

werepossum

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I'm old enough to remember when Reuters was actually a respected news agency, but not old enough to be under the delusion that such is still the case.
 

boomerang

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You read and hear about immigrants from the former Soviet Russia telling the people of this country to wake up to what is happening. That we're going down the same path. Some folks will listen but most won't.

When you own the media, it's makes it that much easier.
 

Schadenfroh

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Faux News continues to perpetuate the myth of left-wing bias in the media. I would trust Reuters over Faux News any day!

;)

If I did not know better, I would say they have a history of this kind of thing:

http://zombietime.com/reuters_photo_fraud/
The Reuters Photo Scandal


A Taxonomy of Fraud


A comprehensive overview of the four types of photo fraud committed by Reuters, August, 2006

Antisemitism at its finest, keep digging that hole Reuters!
 

CLite

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Faux News continues to perpetuate the myth of left-wing bias in the media. I would trust Reuters over Faux News any day!

;)

If I did not know better, I would say they have a history of this kind of thing:

http://zombietime.com/reuters_photo_fraud/


Antisemitism at its finest, keep digging that hole Reuters!

From your link

Theory B: The stringers employed by Reuters are sympathetic to Hezbollah, and successfully duped the politically neutral Reuters editors into publishing propaganda.

To accept Theory B, you'd have to conclude that the Reuters editorial staff are cataclysmically incompetent, and were unable to notice numerous frauds so obvious that "untrained bloggers" could easily spot them. However, this theory is somewhat supported by the fact that Reuters had outsourced part of its captioning operations to Singapore and to Bangalore, India, where captions were written by "entry-level employees" who had little direct knowledge of the situation on the ground. There's no way for readers to know which captions were written by senior editors and which were written by inexperienced young workers who might be overly trusting of the photos' veracity.


I dunno...... thousands of internet bloggers pouring over every image that is published is a more powerful force than the Reuters editorial staff. I'm not saying every blogger/internet surfer is performing C.S.I. style investigations but someone is going to notice something, that's the power of the internet.

I don't read Reuters but I could honestly pass off the 2006 stuff as them accidentally hiring biased local staff and I could buy this most recent image as just some dumbass cropping the image to zoom in without even noticing the dagger. I don't really care if people want to keep yelling at Reuters, just my 2cents.
 

Jhhnn

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Antisemitism at its finest, keep digging that hole Reuters!

Reuters may well have an anti Israeli bias, but claiming it's anti-semitic is just more of the usual attempt at shaming.

Israel is only "Jewish" when it suits her purposes and the purposes of her supporters... other times, why, she's a multi-cultural society with Jews, Arabs and Druze, too... The latter groups definitely being a controlled minority.

Nor is Israel the totality of Jewry. Until just recently, there were more Jews in the US than Israel, and even more worldwide.

I think it's important that accurate characterizations be used, and referring to anything anti- Israel as anti- semitic isn't fair at all. Truly anti semitic remarks are directed towards jews in general, not Israel, and Reuters hasn't crossed that line.
 

Bowfinger

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Media bias not found
That's because you missed the Faux Outrage Indoctrination training. If you would turn down your intelligence and turn up your partisan paranoia, you could see the bias too ... along with terrorists under your bed, the Attack on Christmas, and all sorts of other nutter propaganda fantasies.

Speaking as someone with significant photography experience, including countless published photos in my younger days, it appears to me both pictures were cropped -- not edited as Fox claims, but cropped -- to center on and provide a closer view of the Israeli commandos. Centering on your subject is pretty much Photojournalism 101. A more rational person might even suspect Reuters of pro-Israeli bias, by emphasizing these helpless and injured captives.

In other words, welcome to today's cup of nutter rage about nothing.
 

Bowfinger

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I dunno...... thousands of internet bloggers pouring over every image that is published is a more powerful force than the Reuters editorial staff. I'm not saying every blogger/internet surfer is performing C.S.I. style investigations but someone is going to notice something, that's the power of the internet.

I don't read Reuters but I could honestly pass off the 2006 stuff as them accidentally hiring biased local staff and I could buy this most recent image as just some dumbass cropping the image to zoom in without even noticing the dagger. I don't really care if people want to keep yelling at Reuters, just my 2cents.
That was my thought at the time. This was a photographer whose "bias" was selling photos. Adding the smoke made the pictures more striking so they were easier to sell. Reuters would have no way of knowing the photos were doctored unless they had their own people on the scene. When Reuters found out about the deception, they dumped the guy.
 

kylebisme

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...I could buy this most recent image as just some dumbass cropping the image to zoom in without even noticing the dagger.
Considering Israel's disingenuous propaganda methods such as those mentioned here, and the fact that Israel hand control over all flotilla passengers possessions while holding them captive for days, media included; I consider it more likely that Israel edited the photos themselves before giving them back, so they could falsely accuse those who unwittingly released the doctored photos of misrepresenting the situation.
 

JEDIYoda

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Considering Israel's disingenuous propaganda methods such as those mentioned here, and the fact that Israel hand control over all flotilla passengers possessions while holding them captive for days, media included; I consider it more likely that Israel edited the photos themselves before giving them back, so they could falsely accuse those who unwittingly released the doctored photos of misrepresenting the situation.

hahahahaa....coming from the WTC Conspiracy theorist..now thats classic self ownership!!
 

palehorse

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Considering Israel's disingenuous propaganda methods such as those mentioned here, and the fact that Israel hand control over all flotilla passengers possessions while holding them captive for days, media included; I consider it more likely that Israel edited the photos themselves before giving them back, so they could falsely accuse those who unwittingly released the doctored photos of misrepresenting the situation.
o_O derrr...
 

Noobtastic

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Reuters may well have an anti Israeli bias, but claiming it's anti-semitic is just more of the usual attempt at shaming.

Israel is only "Jewish" when it suits her purposes and the purposes of her supporters... other times, why, she's a multi-cultural society with Jews, Arabs and Druze, too... The latter groups definitely being a controlled minority.

Nor is Israel the totality of Jewry. Until just recently, there were more Jews in the US than Israel, and even more worldwide.

antisemitism is antisemitism.

if reuters continues a systematic policy of depending on palestinian sources - which tend to be loaded with antisemitic over-tones, while stifling anything remotely of substance - it is not unreasonable to accuse reuters of slandering israel because of its status as a jewish state.

why else is the media biased against israel?

if israel was an arab state, would the media treat it differently? of course it would.

this whole "israel is only jewish blah blah" is more leftist garbage. Israel is a Jewish state, it doesn't pretend not to be. The Left likes to use gaming semantics to rationalize their support for antisemites, using words like "anti-zionism" and playing the victim card whenever anyone accuses them of bigotry (I'm not antisemitic, i just hate israel111!!!).

also, there are more Jews in Israel than anywhere else.

and on a per capita basis israel is just as diverse as the USA, and more diverse than the european and muslim world.
 

Throckmorton

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Well they captured that soldier so why wouldn't they have a knife? Am I missing something? And isn't blood on the ground a given?
 

JSt0rm

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That's because you missed the Faux Outrage Indoctrination training. If you would turn down your intelligence and turn up your partisan paranoia, you could see the bias too ... along with terrorists under your bed, the Attack on Christmas, and all sorts of other nutter propaganda fantasies.

Speaking as someone with significant photography experience, including countless published photos in my younger days, it appears to me both pictures were cropped -- not edited as Fox claims, but cropped -- to center on and provide a closer view of the Israeli commandos. Centering on your subject is pretty much Photojournalism 101. A more rational person might even suspect Reuters of pro-Israeli bias, by emphasizing these helpless and injured captives.

In other words, welcome to today's cup of nutter rage about nothing.
I can appreciate that but cutting out 2 big ass knives from a photo of someone being stabbed does seem in poor judgment at the least.
 

dammitgibs

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That's because you missed the Faux Outrage Indoctrination training. If you would turn down your intelligence and turn up your partisan paranoia, you could see the bias too ... along with terrorists under your bed, the Attack on Christmas, and all sorts of other nutter propaganda fantasies.

Speaking as someone with significant photography experience, including countless published photos in my younger days, it appears to me both pictures were cropped -- not edited as Fox claims, but cropped -- to center on and provide a closer view of the Israeli commandos. Centering on your subject is pretty much Photojournalism 101. A more rational person might even suspect Reuters of pro-Israeli bias, by emphasizing these helpless and injured captives.

In other words, welcome to today's cup of nutter rage about nothing.

not edited, but cropped....because cropping isn't editing? I don't understand

This isn't about photography skill, this isn't a person taking pictures at a wedding, or trying to remove redeye from a photo, it's altering the context of what was happening, it's about integrity of journalism, don't pretend you're somehow more qualified to judge their intentions because you took a class on photography.
 

bfdd

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lol @ the people who don't have a problem with this or are trying to justify it. The knife in frame makes ALL the difference. It's an entirely different story when you show the picture with a knife in hand and the one without. No editor or photographer worth their salary would of missed a knife in the guys hand and not question it unless they had ulterior motives.
 

bfdd

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Well they captured that soldier so why wouldn't they have a knife? Am I missing something? And isn't blood on the ground a given?

doesn't really make them the defenseless do gooders when you're standing over a Soldier you've taken prisoner who is beat to shit and you have a guy holding a knife does it? So yeah it matters that they had a knife, especially out in hand around the guy they had subdued. I don't know about you guys, but I consider a knife a weapon and if you have a knife you're armed, not unarmed and defenseless. Such a stupid shit situation and all of you morons going on about "peace activists" etc etc are just that morons.