Retail xp2400+ Question. Can i replace if it burns out?

[FFactory0x]

Basically would it be worh it to spend an xtra $5 on a retail vrison. Newegg had the reatil for $135 and oem for $130 plus if i oc it and it burns out can i get it replaced. I mean how does AMD know i OCED it in all seriousness

 

[DAPUNISHER]

You could get them to RMA it, but should you? Hell no! it's a matter of personal integrity and good ethics, you wanna play you gotta pay, if you aren't willing to foot the bill for your f*ck ups then you have no business overclocking to begin with. Why do I sound so negative and caustic? Because eventually the cost of your defrauding these companies is passed along to myself and every other purchaser. If you're thinking but it's only one CPU, then please remember that there will undoubtedly be others who are victimizing the system as well so you are either part of the solution or part of the problem, it's your choice and I hope you make the correct one

 

[DAPUNISHER]

BTW, I see you're a trader and a good one so far at that, so please ask yourself how it would feel to get trolled on a deal if you haven't already been, and remember that you would be trolling AMD through said actions

 

[FFactory0x]

ohh i hear you on that one. Would drive priceup for all. But do people do it and get away with it all the time?

Just was wondering cause im prolly getting excaliber 2100+ 302 anyway but something i want to know

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I don't know just how frequently it occurs but factoring how often people are trolled in trades and judging by the asshat who came in here the other day practically bragging about how he trolled Dell on a P4 he nuked I'd say it happens far too often

 

[FFactory0x]

but still. I have to disagree with the Gateway or Dell situation. I mean there charging you an arm an a leg for the system and usually use subpar stuff, I think that should be covered with the warrenty. I mean they do say if ANYTHING happens no matter what and a piece fails, they will replace it. I mean i broke 2keyboards. Space bar broke. Might have been my fault but they took then back each time. Thats what there service is all about. You pay for it. Now if i busted a store bought one i prolly wouldnt take it back cause it was my fault and is not covered uner the warrenty.

ONE WARRENTY THAT DOES PISS ME OFF THOUGH. sorry...Its that Burn-in coverage. NO manufacturer or store covers burn in. Its consumers fault. I mean hell when you get the tv anyway everything is turned up. I had to calbrate my or burn in would have occered b/c factory settings were to high

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I don't think you understand, he removed the processor from the computer and put it in another then attempted to overclock it and being a goober nuked a virtually nuke proof CPU. Now do you still think Dell should be responsible for replacement of that CPU? I certainly don't! Dell nor anyone else should be responsible for this type of tampering as this does not fall under the normal usage parameters and is intentioanl and deliberate misuse of the product and voids the warranty.

BTW, my 4th system at the moment is a Dell 4550 (hot deal) and it has a true Intel 845PE/ICH4 mobo with Intel pro 10/100 LAN, Micron 2700DDR, WD ATA 100BB hdd, Lite-On CD, P4 2.4B, G4MX 420 (it's overclocked and gets 5100's in 3Dmark 2001se) it's nearly dead silent, and I swapped the 2,4B retail I had with the SL6RZ and it does 3.114ghz@1.58v actual in my P4PE and 15" LCD for 500$ and that was months ago before the Intel price drop when a 2.4B went for $190+ and 256 of 2700DDR was $75+ I don't believe you could build the same system with a LCD as nice as this one is for near that price right now

 

[FFactory0x]

true. Didnt know he moved it. See i sold my brother my mobo 1.8ghz and geforce3 and moved it to his case. But am not ocing. I did transfer the warrenty to him as well and game him my old case justin case. Now if something goes wrong from normal use would you think it would be wrong for service since i moved those main parts to a new case but didnt change anything oc wise.
Where is the line drawn

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I think it's common sense, since I presume you bought these components individually, each with their own warranty and you're using them in the manner they were intended then of course you have every right to RMA them if they fail during the warranty period. Now if my 2.4B takes a dirt nap I won't be applying for an RMA as I violated the terms of the agreement I entered into with Dell and would eat the cost of replacement consequently. My point is it doesn't require a great deal of analysis to understand that any overclocking or other use of hardware in a manner that doesn't comply with the manufacturer's warranty places the risk entirely on yourself, and should you be uncertain you can always contact the manufacturer and explain the circumstances surrounding the failure of the part and let them make the decision for you and absolve yourself of any potential for dishonest, disreputable, or otherwise downright troll like behavior on your part.

 

[FFactory0x]

Wow. I agree with you a lot. But people dont know where the line is drawn. A lot of us and I can say Ive done it myself break something dont know why and feel the electroinic just crapped out on us. BTW those parts were out of my gateway 2000 that has warrenty on them. All they got was a new case,new hd,new dvd.

BTW. How do you stand on the BB and CC no questions asked no hassle policies? I mean they have told me if my tv craps out on my for whatever reason, then return it and get a new one of fixed for free. Like what if i fell into it and bumped it and it shut off. Should they cover it since i paid for extended warrenty? This is getting good
I mean is it my fault of maybe shody worksmanship where a wire where wires were already loose?

 

[WA261]

yes..that is why they have a warranty on them..if you fuc* it up..get a new one...i buy from a local store that will replace ships no matter what you do to them....great store if your an overclocker...

 

[FFactory0x]

where you live? What store?

So basically you disagree with what was said above that if i buy an reatail chip and oc it and burn it out. The warrenty is there to cover it?

I mean what about these underclocked chips. People say 2100+'s are really stock 2400's correct?
Now if thats true and i buy a retail 2100+ and oc it to 2400+ but it burns out, do i have the right to send it back pending these chips are the same

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I can only re-iterate my own philosophy which is that if you are in doubt as to wether it's covered by warranty call and explain the circumstances and let them make the call, if however you feel after speaking to them that they are trying to "pass the buck" then fight it by all means.

 

[FFactory0x]

true. I think people have different boundry lines and feel they shouldnt be responsible for anything if its under warrenty

 

[WA261]

Originally posted by: FFactory0x
where you live? What store?

So basically you disagree with what was said above that if i buy an reatail chip and oc it and burn it out. The warrenty is there to cover it?

I mean what about these underclocked chips. People say 2100+'s are really stock 2400's correct?
Now if thats true and i buy a retail 2100+ and oc it to 2400+ but it burns out, do i have the right to send it back pending these chips are the same

hey..i still have receipt for my 2400....if yours dies...send it to me and i will get ya a new one...you pay shipping, though

 

[FFactory0x]

great. you got 2400?

Ill buy an oem this week. Thanks a lot

 

[Soulkeeper]

I owned a 2400+ retail
I fryed it, but didn't even bother trying to RMA it
it's just not fair to the company cause you take yur own risks bla bla bla and all that stuff Dapunisher said

 

[damonpip]

WOW if you mean you'd actually return HIS fuk*ed cpu with your reciept to a LOCAL computer store you deserve to be shot. Those stores already have enough trouble already, with all the internet stores, you should be glad they're still around and certainly not cheat on them like that :disgust: :|

 

[WA261]

i still have the fan that came with mine...so yeah, if you break it let me know..i will get it replaced for you

 

[KaranG4]

Well, I was wondering if people would find it justifiable if I returned a cpu that might have been my fault but was getting hotter and hotter to the point where i had to underclock it before it would give up heat and the next time I started the computer, it wouldn't start and I'd get the "system failed cpu test" POST.

I know this is a old post but I need some opinions